Quotejoe6> While you are here pursuing your purely intellectual interests among people whose lives have been ruined by LGATs, you might want to try to form a definition of "apologist". Oh Snap! He's right, though, Joe. I was an apologist for a while without even participating. I thought I was being supportive, but I was making excuses for LE. It caused a lot of c
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QuoteatravelVic luc how old are you? You come across as extremely childish and looking for 'attention'. Your posts are emotional and they lack grounding and hard factual data. You come across as an angry immature individual. This is NOT a place for this kind of behavior. Some people come here looking for guidance who have been deeply troubled by these seminars and/or cults. They don
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QuotenutrinoIt is amusing and sad to see how little you know... how stupid and confused and full of self satisfied ignorance... ME.. a Lekkie,, are you fucking kidding ???...,. boy I hope your clients don't pay money for your thoughts, you should pay them to endure your boring non intellect... sad joke of a failure! Earthworm! Bacteria! Diseased gland! Educated... you educated... where ? Dog
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QuoteasA confirmation that yes I agree- ALL of landmark should be outlawed because any positives people may experience is associated with DAMAGING techniques like 'not listening to the little voice'. My apologies. You give me more than testimonials and LE-funded proprietary research, I'll believe the positives. Otherwise, you're paying a lot of money to be an idiot.
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Quoteas The problem: What landmark don't tell you is the reason why people do this. They say you aren't being honest with yourself and that you just keep reciting 'reasons or excuses'. They fail to acknowledge the fact of the existence of the sub-conscious and that this 'reason why' people cause this on themselves is BURIED in their sub conscious (alongside the trau
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I'm going to speak to you like I have to speak to my clients... This conversation has no purpose anymore. I have no clue where you're coming from. Critical thinking is a great skill...you just need to lead how to apply that to what you're trying to get across here. I'm not taking your bait, Lekkie. Give it all you've got. Make an ass out of yourself. But don'
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I have no idea what this topic has devolved too, but at this point it is not constructive.
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Go to your corners and take your meds! Cool it!
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QuoteMarkusWelchQuoteVic-LucQuoteMarkusWelchQuotenutrinoThe sad truth is that it may have gotten embedded deep in some elements of Washington and Neo-Conservative culture... many have noted strage and telling simiarities between Donald Rumsfeld's utterifications and Wernerspeak... a downrtight scary parallel... especially with his grossly unrealistic conviction that we would "transf
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QuoteMarkusWelchQuotenutrinoThe sad truth is that it may have gotten embedded deep in some elements of Washington and Neo-Conservative culture... many have noted strage and telling simiarities between Donald Rumsfeld's utterifications and Wernerspeak... a downrtight scary parallel... especially with his grossly unrealistic conviction that we would "transform" the Middle Eas
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Both of you go and get a room...you're embarrassing yourselves about your cult activities on a site that is involved in the discussion of cults...and asinine stuff like you two are doing... Wait, nevermind. Keep it up. I'll mail this exchange to your church for X-mas! Maybe they can put it in their weekly bulletin.
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QuoteThe Shadowquote] Filling my assisting teams were a hard part of the role, it was really about manipulating people to give up their time to help me in my job simply because the role was too big for one person to do alone. Landmark makes money because they keep the number of paid staff to a minimum. If they were to pay people to do the work assistants they would probably close down simply
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QuoteJack Oskar Larm I suppose they have to hit rock bottom before they find their own strength to really pursue 'authentic' happiness. Exactly.
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmSad, so sad. Sounds like he's just the shell of a man he used to be. What is worse is that he has probably let them have the shell too. Wait, lemme correct that: He probably paid them to take the shell too.
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QuoteON2 LFHow sad it is when you need a cult to give you permission to live a happy life with your spouse. Have these characters never heard of the concept 'spontaneity'? Yeah, they call it "being unreasonable." Didn't you read the secret code book on how to make a normal life complicated? :P
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanFYI: Large Group Awareness Training in popular culture What is your favorite instance/parody of Large Group Awareness Training in fiction or popular culture and why ? Can you think of other funny examples that are not on this list ? Yes, but the difference is, in Donald Rumsfeld speak, it is weird to think it has gotten up that far. In all other examples
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quote]1I will remain open to her if she ever needs or wants a friendship, but I will not pursue the friendship like I've always had to either. Her involvement and conversion to this malicious cult has deeply impacted and messed with me personally, I cannot let the impact affect or dictate to my everyday life anymore. Well, the you're now a "success story" on a frien
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QuoteskepticCan they NOT use the jargon? Do they even KNOW they're using jargon? Certainly, they don't know they've been programmed. skeptic If they learned the "distinctions" then they know it's jargon on some level.
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QuoteexImpactQuotedazedandconfused...I have to admit though anytime anything comes up about the bible or religion my eyes gloss over and I shut down... I've got that too... I've had that since I was young...a friend to me to a Baptist revival type service and right before I was about to get dunked in the water, I had to stop and think: what the hell am I doing? I don't know an
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Quoteajinajan I think we have pretty much said these rules for the zombies so far : 1) Absolutely no attempts "register" friends into any programs. 2) Do not invite friends to "introductions". 3) Do not use Landmark Education jargon, or loaded language. If your Landmark Education entrenched friend can abide by these (3) rules, that might make things a
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QuoteLabyrinthQuoterrmoderatorMPD is actually a very controversial diagnosis. It is often linked to false memories. See Some mental health professionals have been sued and lost their license over related treatment/therapy. I am brand new here and don't want to start any kind of war, but your statement shows a great deal of ignorance. Like Esperanza, I have been dealing with DID/
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I keep getting e-mails from people who seem to have had the same experience. Wow.
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QuotemauriceQuoteON2 LF I struggle with the thought that, in landmarkia, no one has a true friend. If a person snaps out of the lekkie trance, they've got no one left to be there for them. If I walk or run, my friend is left in the same boat. Where is the healthy boundary? That's true. If I hadn't kept my normal friends, If they didn't keep in touch with me even when - espec
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Does the university know this information and the extent of the impact of it? Because...if it gets government money, this could be a public relations disaster for them.
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It's just not worth the pain. My ex ended up walking away from me, just vanishing from my life. I should have walked away the first time and stayed gone when I had sense. She WAS aloof, unkind, cold, and disconnected before she left. I remember one time, completely out of character for her, she started to imitate and mock my voice...that was about 3 days before she bolted. Her imitatio
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QuoteFishbulbWell, the other two videos posted in the second post on this thread were still up on YouTube. At least they're short, thank God. "Make it a great day"????? Is that Landmarkianspeak by chance? A friend of mine says that. I wondered where that came from. Regarding the "...fifteen years of therapy in three days" comment: I've had
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Quote Do you have any other references to studies oof these anger releasing techniques? I've searched all over but mostly get promotional stuff :roll: Sane, I have some, somewhere in my file cabinet. And I actually have the pillows and padded mallets somewhere in storage.
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QuoteThe ShadowHi Vic-Luc I don't think she is done with it yet...I still believe she could easily slip back...it is early days yet...she still has a last "free" seminar to attend on the 10th of this month, but I am going to do everything in my power to keep her away...I have not yet been able to establish if she has an CDs from them...if she has I want to try and get ri
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QuotemauriceAs for me, feel free to quote my posts. Ditto.
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QuoteThe Shadowi agreed to go to my friend's "graduation" from the Advanced Course, still hoping that I could stop her from going to any more, - at that time she was told about this fabulous speaker who was coming to town the following week...dead tired, but still determined to keep her out of the clutches of Landmark/EST (landmark will revert back to werner Echard in 2009)
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