You'll try anything, right, Tex/Lovebunny/Leibnitz/etc.? "Lovebunny" has all but admitted to me that he's using this new incarnation to poke fun at someone else's posting style. He's quite coherent off the Rick Ross site, and for some reason he thinks this game he's "running" here is fun. He purposely uses different writing styles and poor grammar b
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Quoteif you don't understand my faith and religion is bona fide and pure than you are in the mode of ignorance and your harden heart needs to be softened by a force higher than my humble self. Just so you know, this is an argument used by cults all over the world, who teach their adherents that theirs is the only true path and that those who don't believe are somehow unenlightened and
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Why are you attending Landmark seminars?
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Welcome to the group. You're fortunate to have found this site before you did the Forum. Two things: First, do you want to be with a person who feels you're not good enough for her unless you join a cult? Aren't you fine just the way you are? Don't you deserve to be with someone who appreciates you for you? Second: If you decide the relationship IS worth trying to save,
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Quote-Who is Club Toast Masters and what are they to Landmark? -They are being referred in this text as the middleman that served to introduce Landmark to IBM. - Didn't see "Club Toast Masters" mentioned in any of the Landmark articles I've read up to now, who are they? Oz – I think this is Toast Masters – a reputable organization set up to help business people with pu
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QuoteI just now know the Absolute Truth. Yes...but people cults believe the same thing. Moonies believe it (also that Moon is the Messiah), folks in Landmark believe it (they found it through "ontology"), people in Scientology believe it (and also that aliens were implanted in volcanoes millions of years ago). QuoteIt did not change my personality, only made a lot of the hate tha
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Quote-When they refer to "Getting It" Get what???? What are they getting? -What do they mean by "Transformation" is it when people that really know you, see a change in you and ask you "What happened to you"? - Is it when they don't seem to have any more time for you, cause they are just too busy (yet don't really tell you busy about what)? &quo
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I'll bet dollars to donuts he's using a major marketing firm and focus groups to determine how best to tailor his message to his various target audiences. Tough guy when targeting men, old softie when targeting women. What cracks me up about Landmark is that they tell their participants they don't advertise, but I've found at least one ad agency that was given a 5 million d
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Quote5- What is the time span in completing all available courses from Landmark? Oz - There are 60 courses ranging from one night seminars to leadership programmes spaning years. Yes, and there are also "special events" (like the one on the LEC website now) that are used to keep people coming and bring them back again once they've left. I know Landmarkers who haven't b
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QuoteAnyone see "Frontline" last night. During a downturn in the oil business, George Bush and his formerly prosperous buddies were looking to religion to comfort thier newly impoverished selves. Bush was "converted," or something, by an hour he spent with a fundamentalist nut-job named Arthur Blessed. He started "Bible study" with his now infamous Midland group.
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QuoteLandmarkians first and sole priority is to enroll people into Landmark Education? Yes. QuoteNothing is coincidental or natural, it's intentional? Created by them to happen? They believe so, yes. This serves the dual purpose of making Landmarkians feel simultaneously all-powerful and guilty. Keeping Landmark attendees always questioning themselves and feeling responsible/guilty
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QuoteI am curious to know how the top level people, who are actually making money from this, insulate themselves from the same techniques that catch everyone else. Are they sociopaths? I believe so. And I believe their "seminars" implant sociopathic tendencies into attendees. QuoteIs the double-talk language something that comes from hypnotic suggestion? Why aren't these peopl
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QuoteIt would be an incredible shame if followers not only were deceived and then tortured for their partication. I believe that's what's happening. Although they do have the right to demonstrate and they certainly shouldn't be tortured by the government, I also think they use their "demonstrations" as a recruitment tool. Falun Gong members are put into crates on NY
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I passed a yellow Volkswagen Beetle today that was painted with the Scientology cross and proclaimed its driver to be a "Scientology Volunteer Minister." Here's the website from the Beetle: :x
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Hi, lanajae: QuoteDo you know how long it takes before they need to start finding people to attend an introduction again? We are the only friends he has. What happens to Landmark clients who don't have anyone to bring into it? I get the sense from the message board that they are belittled, I can't see him putting up with that for very long. His girlfriend doesn't have any friend
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Hi, Lanagae: First, let me say your friend is very lucky to have you on his side. Also, I think it's great how much you found out so quickly, and how concerned you are and willing to help a friend in need. I had the same questions as you...should I let this run its course? Should I try to help? People assured me that I was right to be concerned and should stick by my friend and try to
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E! True Hollywood Story about Dr. Phil: You can watch a video of the TV episode...I can't watch it here at work, because I don't want to be disruptive. It discusses his first wife and the reprimand he received as a psychologist. Some quick points: • His first wife says that Phil required her to telephone him before she could leave the house and to tell him of her every move
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QuoteCialdini should be required reading in the schools. What do you think the likelihood of that happening is? I'd like nothing more than to see the school systems adopt some sort of education about cults and the methods they use for recruitment. Unfortunately, in my opinion, large and powerful cults have so much influence in various governments (including the U.S.), I think it would be
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I've noticed that all of Laslow's claims -- being a researcher in biochemistry research, any information about McLean, etc., can be easily picked up from their website, which can be easily googled after one reads the article that began this thread. And it's quite a coincidence that a "new" poster here who concidentally is a researcher at McLean concidentally stumbled acro
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QuoteTo Glam--- Lot's of questions that are only answered on a need to know basis--- and you don't need to know. I'm not fond of interviews. Yes, of course. It's quite common for Landmark attendees to avoid answering questions. Also common for them to be kinda rude about it, as in "you don't need to know." This tactic is commonly used by Landmark leaders
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Welcome, Laslow! QuoteHi all, I'm a researcher at Mclean hospital. Dr. Bruce Cohen, whom is quoted above, is my boss and the head honcho at Mclean. How long have you been a researcher at McLean? When did you do The Landmark Forum? Nobody in your Forum suffered any sort of humiliation at the hands of the Forum leader?
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I agree with everything you've said. I think education is the way.
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Oh, yeah, their claims are outrageous. I just find it amazing that the city of NY allows their "demonstrations" almost daily. I wish there was a way I could help them understand what kind of group they're in...but I couldn't even help my friend understand about Landmark, so how on earth can you help people you just pass on the street? I wonder when, if ever, our government
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Thanks for the study. It's very interesting. LGATs not only bring direct humiliation on their participants through the actions of the group leader, but also oftentimes encourage the abandonment of romantic and other loving relationships. And of course, if you decide to leave, the group abandons you as well, leading to even more humiliation...
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Falun Gong are out in force all over Manhattan recently. They're dressing up their members as "torture victims" and putting them in cages on NY streets, and they've been passing out fliers and "newspapapers" to passersby. They stand in groups of three or four on street corners and in much larger groups near Central Park. I wish I could help them, but I'm not sur
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If they could be exposed, that would be great. From what I've read recently, it seems even Oprah is distancing herself from McGraw now, because she disagrees with the diet stuff he's selling. I honestly don't know what to make of guys like Dr. Phil, Erhard, Hubbard and the like. I can't figure out whether they're just out-and-out con men who know exactly what they'
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"PaulKeith": You seem confused. Many of your statements here, on the public board and in private emails to me, seem to contradict each other. Here are a few examples: Quote"They seemed to be promoting an anti-drug message on their website related to what I'm assuming is their religion, Scientology." Yet… "And all though you and I don't think Sciento
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QuoteWhere did you see that? I heard NXIUM (or something) was suing him. That may ultimately be a spinoff from Est or Landmark but I haven't seen any info. about a Landmark suit. Where are you getting your info. from? Gee, Jim, where'd you hear or see that? I find it interesting that you've heard about NXIVM but not about the Landmark suit. And that you've come aboard here
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You're brave to show up and try to help people. It seems pretty much all this band does is travel the world promoting Scientology and Narcanon. QuoteThe Jive Aces, UK's No. 1 swing band launch swing party for the release of their album at the "100 Club". M2 Presswire; 5/20/2003 M2 PRESSWIRE-20 May 2003-CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY: The Jive Aces, UK's No. 1 swing band
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More on "applied kinesiology": QuoteCredible scientific studies of applied kinesiology conducted by major universities or respected research facilities are in short supply. This may be because few (if any) scientists or licensed medical doctors take its claims seriously. A scientific double-blind pilot study, however, was conducted to test the claims of applied kinesiology. It was
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