Hi Jim: QuoteWouldn't it bolster your case if the National Enquirer was the not the source of your info??? Actually, a double whammy -- not only the National Enquirer, but Fox News, which in my mind is even less reliable. I do wish I could find something more substantial. However, this little piece of McGraw's history is but a drop in the bucket when it comes to his questionable me
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I've found this so far concerning the sexual abuse. From The O'Reilly Factor (Fox News Network); 9/16/2002; Bill O'Reilly: QuoteO'REILLY: In the "Back of the Book" Segment, a few months ago, THE FACTOR got a tip about problems Dr. Phil McGraw had while practicing psychology in the State of Texas. We did not report the story because the woman making the allegati
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Here's an article by a woman who just wrote a book about Dr.Phil: I'm still trying to find definitive info about the sexual abuse charges.
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Apparently the reason Dr. Phil never refers to himself as a psychologist -- but instead calls himself a life strategist—is because, legally, he can't call himself a psychologist. He lost his license to practice on ethics charges a few years ago. It turns out that so-called "Applied Kinesiology" is being used or has been used by some cults as a method of control. It was created b
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OK, Jim/Paul... Why don't you try offering us your differing opinion? I for one would like to know what you're doing here, since you refuse to give an honest answer. Why not tell us about your friends' fabulous experiences with Landmark, experiences with which they apparently had no complaints, yet they screened their calls to avoid the Landmark "office." Also, perh
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More from Pathways, Dr. Phil's baby: QuoteWhy Pathways LifeStyle Management Seminars Work Pathways is an Experience Based training program. Participants are lead through a series of processes whereby they discover things for themselves. Some of the methodologies Dr. Phil designed into the program include: * One-on-one dyads * Small group work * Large group work “Pathways is an
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Interesting: I believe I saw your post there, Coz, and then someone answered you, and I responded to her. Looks like the whole thing was deleted, because I can't find it there any more. But I do have a screenshot at home that shows your post.
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I've tried posting there, too. Let's see if my post makes it up.
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I visited Dr. Phil's message board and did see that someone managed to get some info up; I took a screenshot last night. I'm curious to see if it's still there this morning.
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Hi! So sorry to hear about your boyfriend. You're right to be concerned. His new girlfriend could definitely have been recruiting for Landmark. I've heard stories about people going on dates with others who try to get them to join. Perhaps you should get in touch with his parents. They might be concerned, as well. However, I wouldn't recommend sending a frightening email a
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That would be a great site. I'd be happy to pitch in with graphics, if needed. I don't know how to write code, though, so I have no idea what kind of software would be needed. It does sound like it might be simple to do...I'll see if I can find out more.
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QuoteHe doesn't phone or email anymore, but interestingly enough, once in a while, he shows up out of the blue - always on a Monday or Tuesday - almost his old self. He acts like there's something he wants to talk about ,,,, My friend's weekly Landmark meetings happened on Wednesday nights. If your friends' schedule is the same, it's possible he's sort of "co
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Oh, I get it! You're not Jim. :wink: :wink: Here's the problem, though: The minute you start posting what you really believe, you'll be banned from here. In the meantime, pretending not to like Landmark only helps unsell it. Which is totally cool by me. Pretend away! ~"Not Glam" :wink: :wink:
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Grrrr. Can we do anything to support Rick?
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Quote I was waiting for one of the links to pop up a picture of a Borg (Star Trek fans will understand) stating that " we will assimilate you, resistance is futile." Hi, Jim! I see you figured out how to get on to the chat board here! QuoteBut you really weren't going to go out and "cut a rug" to their music, were you? Sure was! In fact, the only reason I know th
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Quoteknowing my uncle I think that he would have not have hurt anyone on purpose. of course maybe he did. I think the vast majority of people involved in est/Landmark have no idea they're hurting people. They recruit because they truly believe they're helping people. My friend honestly thought Landmark could help me solve my "problems," I have no doubt. He has no awareness
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QuoteI know a fair number of people that have done Landmark but I haven't heard many complaints. A few have screened there calls with caller-id to avoid the office or whatever they call it. They have no complaints, but they're screening their calls? You don't think getting too many annoying calls and having to screen them is a complaint? And how would you know about the call scr
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QuoteIt’s all weird to me. Have you heard about the religion that believes their God was born from a woman that was a virgin? Way out there!!! Why are you on this board? You must know what the Rick Ross site is about -- cults -- or you never would have found it, and you certainly wouldn't waste your time signing up and posting here. If it's true that your friends got good result
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QuoteSecondly, why do you care what thet believe in? They seemed to be promoting an anti-drug message on their website related to what I'm assuming is their religion, Scientology. But you told me in a private email that "you and I may not see Scientology as a religion." In fact, you said of the e-meter event: "What a racket!" QuoteAlthough I don't care to be p
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QuoteI think the just mean to screen out applicants who have psychiatric histories in order to protect themselves from lawsuits and the people from getting hurt. To protect themselves from lawsuits, definitely. To protect people from getting hurt, I don't think so. People still get hurt by them, every day (that ranges from ruining their relationships with loved ones to psychiatric b
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I was all excited to go check out the Jive Aces swing band while they were playing here in NY (I'm a swing dancer), when what should I discover but they're a front for the Church of Scientology! This is so sad. How many snakelike arms does this org HAVE?
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QuoteLEC! look at this naughty LiveJournal entry of mine. please, sue me! I read a bit of your post there (sorry about your sister)...the fact that they showed a Monty Python video gave me an idea. I wonder how many videos/movies and how much recorded music they use at their seminars? It's possible -- in fact, likely -- they're breaking copyright law by using these things without
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Hi! Sorry to hear about your daughter's involvement with this group. I think it's important to remain calm and not get angry about her involvement (at least not in front of her)...try your best to stay open and loving. Some groups try to separate people from their loved ones, and use loved ones' anger as a sign they should be avoided. There's information at this site about how
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The post from "Petey" continues: QuoteI found a way to pay for the UPW in San Jose recently, and I found that the tickets could have easily been much much more for the exerience that was given to me. So much so that I have found a way to pay for two more tickets to the UPW in New York including hotel and airfare, and I am still a very broke person financially. So wait...he's a
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Hi, Alexis, I think your advice to see an exit counselor is spot on. When someone leaves a coercive group, they may be confused and suggestible. But I do have a bit of an issue with this part of your post: QuoteAnd just to add to the confusion, most of the skeptics I've met were not reasonable at all when it came to the concept of God. Of the ones I've met, every single one was
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QuoteHe's probably mad that all these people are making big bucks off his ~creation.~ He's probably very, very angry that he is still seen as a sleazy "used-car salesman" while these other copy-cats have managed to cloak themselves with some kind of legitimacy he was never able to accomplish. Tee hee! You betcha. But then again, all Dr. Phil's done is repackage Rosenber
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I have heard from people that Dr. Phil took Landmark (or est) training...in fact we discussed this briefly on another thread here. Here are quotes from his site (Dr. Phil's "Ten Life Laws"): QuoteLife Law #1: You either get it or you don't. Strategy: Become one of those who gets it. Life Law #2: You create your own experience. Strategy: Acknowledge and accept accountab
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Quoteeverybody was "falling out in the spirit", in a hypnotic bliss, but I felt nothing....of course I did not want others to know of my internal struggles, so I faked it. It may help you to know that, from what I've read, many people have felt the same thing you have...while the people around them were in apparent "bliss," they felt nothing and faked it. In fact, some
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Ellen thoughtfully passed this website on to me, which I find very interesting. It provides an historical persective on religious experiences which sound much like the "laying on of hands." Take a look and see if it might help you:
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Hi, Acid Reindeer, and thanks for your response to my questions and for sharing all this. Quoteit had an effect on my sister which by the end terrified me. (and when I say terrified, I mean terrified.) she took the course earlier this year without teling me beforehand as she knew that I would have tried to warn her away. (in spite of which her change still shocked me.) Landmark had many good e
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