changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I buy one of these patriotic bibles, it would > be just to read Two Corinthians. My bible, which > went missing over 25 years ago, didn't include > that book for some reason. > > There must be some special treatment in that leather cover keeping that thing from bursting into flam
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks, Jewel. I don't recall knowing about Bill > Britton, probably because I don't remember John > Robert Stevens ever talking about him. Your > mention of him led me to find this article: > > > > Also mentioned in this article is an interesting > item about The L
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel wrote: > > You are absolutely right.My first glimmer of this > happened shortly after Robert F. Kennedy was > assasinated. I overheard an older lady at church > saying that this had happened because John Robert > Stevens had prophesied it. I had a discussion with > my mom about m
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Chad Mitchell Trio...blast from the past! I > still remember when John Robert Stevens was > passing out material from The John Birch Society. > Wow! Yea, I was down in San Diego and there were people (including R. D. Cronquist) pushing John Birch Society conspiracy theories, recommending this boo
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You’ll need some music to go with that:
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Cult of Trump > > Yikes. There is a formal analysis. I had not looked should be an interesting read. I’ll take a look. Thanks.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Came across this last night (below). It's > recognizable because of what many of us > experienced in the living word cult. Families torn > apart over the issue of whether or not to serve a > cult leader--who, of course, was presented falsely > as an instrument of God, basically a savior for
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I wish those guys were a little more transparent with regard to outing some of the perpetrators in the events at the “ middle management” level. With regard to the last one, the interview with the girl from San Diego, it would have been interesting to know who all was involved. There is a lot of talk about Marylin, Gary, JRS, Rick, etc. but much lower than that, it becomes “My Shepard” etc. I wou
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Going back in time, spending countless hours > commuting to work, I would often get stuck behind > some driver with what I considered a useless > bumper sticker on their vehicle. My first thought > after reading these stickers, an involuntary > behavior, was usually 'Why does the public nee
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think an appropriate name for a punk band in > TLWF would be Mindfuck, but then they would likely > be shunned by the fellowship, and that would be no > fun. > Anyway, glad you had the opportunity to play music > in the church. Finding a healthy outlet made the > place a bit more tolerable
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Jewel wrote: > Looks like they are still peddling the > literature under the Living Word banner and > logo. > > I like the fact that you can not only purchase > items, but donate to the 'ministry.': > /s > > Donate > Thank you for supporting the ministry of Th
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Jewel wrote: > I am just finishing up Sarah Steel’s book “Do As I > Say: How cults control, why we join them,…” and > She makes a statement in the glossary in the TLW > entry that Gary Hargreaves shut it down. > I haven’t gotten that impression from anything > else I have read - particul
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Just out of curiosity, does TLW still exist in some sense? I am just finishing up Sarah Steel’s book “Do As I Say: How cults control, why we join them,…” and She makes a statement in the glossary in the TLW entry that Gary Hargreaves shut it down. I haven’t gotten that impression from anything else I have read - particularly here. I thought that at least Hawaii and Brazil were still active
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Lilith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The > question Scott asked at the end was interesting, > basically after all of that what do you believe > now? For me, all religions are cults, nothing more > than business ventures for the sole purpose of > making money from a captive audience, and the more > they are entrapped and enslaved the
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "We're paying Rick some big salary to do > absolutely nothing." > > From the latest episode: > Just watched that. Wow, this thing turned into a category 5 shit show once the Gary and Marylyn party started. I left Coniah around 1982 (I think). So this was after my time. JRS was st
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes. The YT videos are pretty amateurish. > Someone I know said “It’s like reading a book > report from someone who didn’t read the book”. > LOL LOL. I was going to say it was like someone doing a high school term paper trying to make sure they got a “C” but not willing to put in the effort for much
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JesusJesusJesus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hey! It's been awhile. I keep trying to put the > Living Word behind me, but it keeps popping back > up. :-) Today a relative of mine made an offhand > remark at her job that she had been part of a > cult. That other person replied, "Oh, the one in > Kalona? I just saw a video docum
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Posted by: slandjt () > Date: March 31, 2017 03:46PM > > With regard to the comments about the secret FB > group, it's called Alumni of the Barn, a reference > back to the early 70s when the San Diego church > was called Coniah Chapel and met in an old metal > barn. I also happen to know t
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Good to hear from you, TheJewel. And thanks for > the recommendations. > > Your initial post in this forum (I think): > > Posted by: TheJewel > Date: January 05, 2016 04:35PM > > Hi, > > This is my first post here. I have read through > all the posts in this thread (
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Haven’t posted for a while but I just finished a book that some might want to take a look at. The title is “Uncultured” by Daniella Mestyanek Young. Daniella was born into the Children of God Cult apparently now called “The Family” and the book chronicles what she went through, how she got out and made a life for herself and career as an army officer and now a successful lecturer and author. I
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > From January, 2016: > > > > Posted by: TheJewel > > Date: January 09, 2016 03:51AM > > > > I wanted to make a comment in answer to > someone’s > > post (too lazy to go back and hu
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > typer wrote: > The violent intercession is back, from what I > hear, online from the Shiloh group of about 40-60 > people. > > Like all the violent intercession in the > Walk/TLWF, it appears to have had the opposite > effect. In fact, I think the best way to > not have something ha
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi everyone, > > No politics please. > > This thread topic is "The Living Word Fellowship, > The Walk, John Robert Stevens. > > Please stay on topic. Not trying to raise a ruckus with the moderator and I agree with your post but I will say this: that my experience with The Livi
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BTW, don't allow the monstrously evil act of one > Jones (Jim Jones) color your attitude toward all > Joneses. Most of the Joneses I've encountered in > my life tend to be good, decent people..albeit > with a few annoying quirks. They don't deserve to > be lumped in with this anom
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CARe Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > Hopefully this link works for a video taken from a > drone of the burn. > > > > > Wow! Awesome video CARe. Thank you for sharing. I understand that the torched it on purpose to clear the land for something e
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CARe wrote: > Sometimes I would briefly wonder why she was > always in his apt and wondered if she had a room > in his apt??? > > Perhaps a safe room where she could practice > putting on bras and taking them off? Just > speculating. Bummer. When I was in the San Diego (Coniah) ch
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Something doesn't seem quite right about paying > only $750 in taxes, while writing off $72,000 for > hairstyling. Perhaps it is just my "carnal mind" > undermining my faith in God's 'chosen one.' > Yeah...that's probably it. Ten days of repentance > was obvio
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, no one could accuse most of us of being > apolitical. The cult inculcated us into a very > conservative mindset, including JRS occasionally > distributing material from the John Birch Society > to members during church meetings. I even remember > him saying from the pulpit that if George McG
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Luckily for me, I think somewhere in my being I > hoped that JRS' endtime predictions were not true. > I finished college. But I know many people, > including family members, who did not. F'ing cult. I was the same. For some reason, I sort of hedged my bet and went forward with m
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walknntalkn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look who's got a shiny new website: > > > Whoever had "Zionist podcaster" on your bingo > card, please collect your winnings! > > 9018 Balboa Blvd. is a UPS Store, by the way. I > wonder who he sends to pick up the checks? Someone should have reviewed his web design
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