Hi Corboy, It has come to my attention that in Sydney, Australia there is a least one Life Coaching Traning Organisation that is using the LGAT psychological model to indoctrinate patricipants. Some background to the Industry: Life Coaching is a profession that started in the USA over 10 years ago. The distinction that Life Coaches make with Counsellors or psychologists is that Life Coa
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Hi Corboy, Life Coaching is a profession that started in the USA over 10 years ago. I will start a new thread for this topic so as to not hyjack the original author's topic and concerns. Oz
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Hi fuzbelflup, If you supply the name of the LGAT someone here may know of its origins and who is behind it. Some LGATs start out from ex- Scientologists as my "Money and You" one did., Some stem from Forum Leaders from Landmark, Lifespring etc. What is showing up now are LGATs posing as training courses in the "Life Coaching" Industry. Oz
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iI is inevitable that noted people in the public eye are involved in LGAT's and cults. It is to the advantage of the cult to have referals from prominent people in society. Look at Scientology and leading actors. From the many pro LE sites on the net, there are doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists singing the praised of LE. So how can this be? The health professional is a human bei
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Hope, What you have described is an extreme use of a therapy called Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy, (REBT). It is a type of therapy that broadly comes in under the banner of Congnitive Behavioural Therapy, (CBT). The most basic assumption of this therapy is that we, (the client prior to treatment), condition ourselves to feel disturbed. We are not conditioned to be disturbed from extern
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Corboy - I often find myself spaced out for a few seconds when I come accross the material you are mentioning and I did not participate in Landmark, but another LGAT that is now out of business some 12 years ago. Ialso trance out often when encountered with a stressful situation. Its all because of the LGAT. They all work in a similar way. Hossgal - good to see some humour re: "register&q
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HI GC, The attached file, (hope it worked this time), is an indepth writeup of the Landmark room setup. Of interest to me was the extent Centre Management went to to make a door open and close silently to aviod distraction by the leader, supervisor and attendees. All door hinges were machine olied and striker plates and lock tongues were fastened with masking tape to deaden noise. - wow we..
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Hi Hossgal, Your question: "Are there LGAT's that are more dangerous (or benign) than others" There are others in this discussion board more versed than I on this but I'll try and answer :) To understand the process and potential danger of an LGAT, there are two areas to consider: 1. The philosophy held and taught by the group 2. The psychological process/s use
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Hi Hossgal, In an earlier response to this thread, (Please navigate to my earlier comments), I made mention of the USA Federal Government - "Do Not Call Me Register" from the Federal Trade Commission. Here is the link: 1. Register yourself with this db to prevent LE from calling you. 2. Write a letter to your LE Centre manager: a) advising what you have done and clearly
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I'm horrified by the 4 pillars. Life is not a game, it is a gift! Every human life that comes into our life is a gift too, not a resource. By labeling life as a game and people as a resource, it gives LE Grads the feeling that they can do anything they like to anyone for their own gain in winning their game or creating their little God like universe. When the use by date of a person
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In response to Corboy's point 1:- "1) You're bombarded by phone calls at home if you try to leave the training before completing it" In the USA there is a Federal Govt database called the "Do Not Call Me" db. If a person is worried about leaving LE and is concerned about being phone and/or email harassed, I would advise registering on this db. Last year it had 48
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To All, I just quickly wanted to raise two points concerning what Briggs stated: QUOTE: "It's just that I find that people who've done Landmark and criticize it actually have something to say, but those who've never done Landmark and yet are so opinionated have just nothing useful to offer" 1. One does not need to participate in LE to know its teachings and psycho
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Engine271, I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your best friends wife. This is a tragedy. Oz
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Hi Whisky, I was conversing with a Landmark person last week. He accused me of being "powerless" because he saw writing about LE on the web was lame - why not attack LE front on and put them out of business, he said... My answer to him was that if I or we, (good intentioned people writing the truth to save others from LE), can save one person, then, that is worthwhile. Each perso
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There is no chance LE will ever be launched in Cuba under the current administration. Oz
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My understanding of the prevailing US law as an Australian is as follows: 1.No US company can trade with Cuba or set up an office in Cuba. 2. If a country trades with Cuba and also the US, The US companies are obliged to cease operations with that country. IE: If an Australian corporation trades with Cuba or sets up an office, it is illegal for a US company to trade with an Australian comp
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To all who have followed this thread and my story: Jane now understands: 1. How LE philosophy counters her Christian, (Catholic) philosophy; 2. How LE uses mind control techniques to drive home their philosophy and can pin point specific exercises in Forum and Advanced Course that use different techniques; 3. That she was brainwashed against her will; 4. That LE is dangerous and none shoul
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Someone from this discussion board passed to me a testimony located below. It is the story of a couple who experienced much pain in their relationship when one of them was introduced to Landmark by an old friend. I relate to the man in this story 100% in what I have experienced over the last 6 months although it was written in 1995! I hope this story helps those who have lost their Wife/Hus
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Hello All, While surfing for info on Landmark Forum Child Abuse, I discovered a message board, link below, where an Attorney from Seattle is interested in establishing a class action against LE because an existing client has a psychotic episode afteer attending the forum. He is requesting interest from people who believe thay have been affected by LE. The post is old, Sept 2002, but he has
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To all readers, A few months ago there was a thread started on this topic called "terror and The children" Landmark Education runs two courses for the young: "Landmark Forum for Young People" - aged 8 to 12 years "Landmark Forum for Teens" - aged 13 to 17 years. The basis of these courses is the same as The Forum for adults though the days are shorter as
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Ellen, To do this question justice requires a new thread which I will soon create. This site and discussion board have been a help to my education. I have only passed on the site to her this week. In the meantime, my response to your question is included in my original thread below as I don't want to send this thread off on my tangent away from Corboy's original intent. Land
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Ellen Wrote from another thread: ======== >>BTW - this site and this discussion board have been largely instrumental in getting my loved one out of Landmark. She is now on the road to recovery. Oz>>> >>Any feedback on which posts, or was it cumulative, maybe? Was there one particular poster who affected her? Ted Patrick, the original
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This whole area of LGAT is as wide, deep and emotional as subjects get. It encompasses, the free will of the individual, something all citzens of the free world hold up as sacred. It encompasses the very meaning and existance of life and one's faith or beliefs. It encompasses, family breakups, divorce and distruction of friendships. It encompasses suicide, psychotic breakdowns an
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Dear lilsis, I feel for you in your concern for your brother. When you are touched by something that appears to be un-natural or irrational it can become unnerving. The "church" sounds like a penticostal church that preaches what is called the "prosperity gospel" This form of christian bible interpretation believes that God wants all people to be happy and that there sho
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I'd be very interested in the statistical findings. I would be interested in a psychological study too. From reading all these adds and the ones on the Landmark dating website, one would get the impression that they are all written by the one person. Hence the power of the "one size fits all" mindcontrol, brainwashing of Landmark Education. What would be interesting is if a Land
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Briggs, Tthere is no distinction between life and everything. You are playing with words. Even though there be death, death is part of the cycle of life, so life encompasses everything. So - what Hope is saying and what you are saying is the same. The meaning to life has no baring on what you give it Briggs. That statement puts you in the centre of the universe as if you are a little GO
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I found the following article helpful in explaining how the Landmark "new age", "Me" philosophy of: "There is no meaning to life other than what YOU Give it", is so powerfully adopted by almost all participants through psychological techniques employed by the Landmark business model. Creating Possibilities or pursuing profit: Reader s will need to scroll
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This business about Landmark gets rather serious so lets try for a bit of humour. I hope we all "Get It" :D I stumbled across this link which is a spoof on a Landmark Intro Night Stephen Peace's Play - Landmark Forum And The Red Flags :) Enjoy :) Oz
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This is the worst sales pitch I've ever read!
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Hi Jack, I recall back in November you mentioned you were thinking of doing the Self Expression & Leadership Course, (SELP). Did you do it and if so, what happened? What are your plans now as regards Landmark? For readers of this thread, refer to the following thread for a breakdown of the Landmark Advanced Course and SELP. Oz
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