This still is going on. Using "parties" as a way to lure new people to a SGI meeting. And using this sexual lure, is a classic cult technique. In SGI the pressure to recruit, drives people to use any technique that works to get bodies in the door. Of course, most people at the bottom of SGI do all of this mindlessly without thinking. QuoteFreeheartandmindIn Chicago, the extracurr
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Geez, all the sex and weed...maybe SGI isn't so bad after all. (joke). But you really have to wonder about SGI and sex. Example: Those who would invite others to SGI chanting meetings, would usually frame it in the context of "dating". As in...come to our get-together on the weekend...there are lots of singles there, and you should meet so and so. uh...is it a party? yes, its
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What a organized fraud by Ching Hai. So either Ching Hai has hired a company to spam the internet making countless reposts of her advertising while lying and posing as a real person, which is a lie, which is fraud. Or someone on Ching Hai's internet staff was ordered to do this. So it looks like they are using a software robot that goes and registers and posts? So someone on Ching
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Yes, ole SGI was more into the old post-Stalinist style brainwashing in the 70's... Matching uniforms...for uniform minds Where's the flags, marching bands and huge pictures of Ikeda? But even back then, SGI-USA was using modern marketing techniques, with the multi-ethnic staged photos...with of course the Japanese folks removed from the photo, except for in the background. SGI-
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That reads like a joke from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything = 42. But you see the SGI scam right there. Supreme Wishful Thinking. You mindlessly chant some syllables at a SGI piece of paper, its so MINDLESSLY SIMPLE any idiot can do it! Wow. Yet, it will turn you into Leonardo DaVinci by magick, and reveal the secrets of the cosmos.
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Even though Feynman has absolutely nothing to do with cults, sects, or especially SGI, in fact it would be good material for helping to self-deprogram from SGI, or any other new agey cult, as its so different. And Hitch, the facts you are spilling here about SGI and SGI-USA are invaluable. Long ago in this thread, some were saying that in their view SGI was not "really" a "cu
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Exactly like I said! :-) Ikeda and SGI copied the fanatical and fascistic 'mind-control' techniques from the Japanese military which were developed and used in WWII, and then modified and used in other ways after the wars. SGI picked up some of those techniques. And no, SGI did not correct these. They CONCEALED THEM with more propaganda. SGI-USA has systematically hired PR firms
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Both on the bookshelf for ages. Also this Feynman book is terrific, The Character of Physical Law. The live audio of Feynman, which was the source for the Lectures, is great, fun to hear his Brooklyn voice. Why get brainwashed with SGI cultic nonsense and wreck your life, when you can listen to a smart, practical, funny guy like Feynman explain stuff like that? Especially now its on th
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Those SGI head-hunting stories are horrifying. That is worse than Scientology. Going to these people's houses, peering through windows, banging on all the doors, harrassing them. That is worse than the Jehovah's Witnesses, who will go away when you tell them. Anyone who has the faintest hope that SGI is not a "cult"... you have to look at things like taking a group of SG
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well, The Feynman Lectures on Physics are terrific! Feynman of course was totally opposed to all the flim-flam gobbleygook that was being associated with quantum mechanics, even when he was around it was getting bad. If Feyman were around today, he would tear the entire New Wage a new one. Talk about 'enlightenment', the Feynman Lectures are on the net in original audio and pdf. Thi
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and I am not making fun of anyone...anyone involved in any sort of modern cult believes some version of this. New Thought used to say it was the power of the Christ Consciousness...now they say its Quantum Physics, as that sounds more acceptable. These abstract concepts become a catch-all for "then a miracle happens". In reality, its mainly the Confirmation Bias, if one really tri
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Its interesting, if a person really really believed that SGI chanting had some type of quantum mechanical power to affect the fabric of space-time and make things happen... Then if they had 25 or 100 goals, and were chanting and thinking about them everyday, or 10x a day, then sooner or later one of those goals is going to make an appearance. Either by quantum mechanics, or by the law of large
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To clarify, not commenting about making 'goals' and all that of course. For example, a person might make a "collage" with photo's of some of their goals, which might be a new car, and the rest of it. Just by making those goals, and focussing your mind on it everyday, your mind will start to come up with ideas on how to achieve those goals. So if a person had a "
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One could make an argument that generic "chanting" can be a type of deep breathing control that creates relaxation, etc. Observe yourself chanting, and you will see its a deep breath, with a very slow release of air. Try it without chanting, and it also creates relaxation. Or make up some random syllables...do-pah-rah-sym-bo-tah... Its a physiological relaxation response. But S
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One of the most obnoxious things about SGI, which is part of the cult, is that members constantly badger and bother everyone with their SGI propaganda. They do it in the workplace, they do it to "friends" who finally get to the point of ending the friendship and having to BLOCK their email, as they keep sending SGI email spam. Some SGI people will even hand out a SGI brochure on a dat
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It can be helpful to have some direct bluntness for a change, other than the endless loop of turtles all the way down...as stated. People get mindfucked daily in countless cults, with all sorts of complex arguments. Its part of the strategy of the cult called Programmed Confusion. For some people, they might think a new thought one day...hey this SGI-chanting is sheer bullshit. And that simpl
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They are egomaniacs, who think they are special and even superhuman. Or at least they try to get their followers to believe that, often using reverse psychology. If they really were "enlightened" the first thing they would admit is that they are a fallible greedy crooked person, and probably renounce the con-artists lifestyle, and get a job. But they are self-promoting con-artists
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Will Ching Hai take personal responsibility for any deaths of her followers due to the lethal Breatharian hoax? Maybe someone should collect all of Ching Hai's endorsements of Breatharianism, and keep those archived for the future. ---------------------- Woman starved to death trying to live on sunlight alone: Report Published On Wed Apr 25 2012 The Associated Press GENEVA—Sw
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Ikeda seems to have followed the ideas in The Art of War. That is, using DECEPTION against your opponents and enemies is great, by any means necessary. And you are an opponent of Ikeda, if you are not in his immediate family. Guys like Ikeda are usually real cynics about the human masses. (that includes the thousands of SGI believers). They believe people want to be deceived, as they can&
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and of course not just SGI does this to people. It looks like EVERY single sect and cult does the exact same thing. They give their followers a FALSE belief that _______ will solve your problem. But _______ does NOT. So then you need more coaching, books, programs, seminars, and to give more donations. LGAT seminar do the same thing, so they have a customer for life, who never improves. Pe
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Its easy to use any false argument for any sect or Guru. When the Guru gets sick, they say they are taking on the "bad karma" of their FOLLOWERS. They blame the followers, they always do this, you could list countless Gurus who do this. Or if bad things happen to the country, they blame the country in general, for not being SGI enough, etc. Not just SGI does this, but all kinds o
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If Ikeda has been mia for a couple years, he is probably having health problems, and someone else is calling the shots now at SGI. As far as the SGI-Chanting...it really is so absurd. If one takes themselves out of the situation, and looks at it from the outside... How can chanting some syllables do all of these things? In fact "SGI chanting" for a problem, is going to make it
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Most of the people at the bottom of SGI do not know anything about the Tech being used on them. they are too busy chanting and working for no pay. But the real leaders of SGI and SGI-USA, of course they know all about the Tech being used, and how to do it. They are probably self-righteous about it, and feel the ends justifies the means. But guaranteed Ikeda is a cynic, and looks down on a
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That is the point I have been making since the start of this thread. Often Ex-SGI are just focussed on pointing out the flaws of SGI, which is good, but its not enough. SGI uses actual real TECHNIQUES of cultic control and manipulation. SGI didn't think them up, they copied them from others. So its an important moment when people begin to look outside SGI, and study the generic TECHNIQ
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Gotta agree with that. Tolle is clearly an Egomaniac, ironically. And now he is a multimillionaire, and will only get much worse. And that is very true, Tolle is comparing people who have serious mental illness, delusions, and even psychosis, to the normal inner dialogue each person has in their minds. That of course is extremely false. Eckhart Tolle is a confidence-man, who is able to p
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Thanks for the update. Yes, what they are running is a type of internet scam, that uses various cultic techniques on people. There seem to be MANY people in the "vegan movement" who are using these techniques on people. Ching Hai uses cult techniques, and exploits veganism as part of her pitch. And some in the veganism movement turn a blind-eye to Ching Hai's scams, as she i
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yep, as predicted here years ago, Ching Hai has changed this rules of the end of the world again. How many times has she done this? She milked the 2012 fear for a few years. Now she realized the 2012 hype is dead, so its time to reset the clock. She has now reset the clock to carry her right through her retirement, so she can continue to take people's money for the rest of her life.
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This is another standard technique used by many sects and cults. They tell brazen lies to their followers, that doing _____ will cure your cancer. Usually the _______ involves the cult making money off the desperate person. So SGI tells their people they can cure cancer by SGI Chanting, which is complete bullshit. Of course the cult leaders know its all totall bullshit. They know people ar
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Ever look at how much money SGI-USA spends lobbying politicians in the USA? We dug up some in this thread before. It was in the millions. SGI-USA is involved in politics in the US.
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same WWII documentary, also had a lot of info, and actual video, of Japanese citizens commiting mass suicide. This was all directed by the word of the Emperor of Japan, who was the legal/divine head of the armed forces. Is it cultural, or was it indoctrination? It clearly was deliberate indoctrination by the military. As just before WWII, Japan was very friendly to the west for a time, but
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