Saw an interesting documentary on pre-war and wartime Japan. It shows where Ikeda's perverse and extremist beliefs come from. In those times, many people in Japan had literally nothing, not a bowl of rice. So when people go through such extreme deprivation, they often get obsessed with that never happening again, and try to amass wealth, and think of nothing else. And guys like Ikeda wil
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The SGI has a very sophisticated and targeted brainwashing system aimed at children. All the way from the SGI cartoon propaganda to these vile SGI mind-washing games about being a "trillionaire" to warp the values and minds of SGI youth. And of course the concept of the SGI Fortune Baby, where a child is labelled, targeted and brought up in the SGI system, and used psychologically b
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It looks like at least some of those supposed posts on the Desteni forums are fakes. There are probably a couple people in Desteni who's job it is to post fake posts on the Desteni forum, as bait, in hopes of luring other people in. Fake testimonials. Fake stories. One could analyze the text, and likely find evidence that some posts were written by the same person from Desteni. Desten
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Poolman and Desteni are headed for very serious trouble. They are trying to see how far they can push people, and they are going to find out they can push them all the way. Its actually not that hard to do, if you are a psychopath. That gibberish above does not sound like it came from Sunette Spies in the least. She is either just posting what she is told, or rehashing the nonsense from Pool
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Desteni is getting into lethal areas. Encouraging the poisoning of their members now? This must be another TEST set-up by the Desteni leaders, to see just how credulous and brainwashed a follower is. Will they shave their head? Will they pull their teeth? Its escalates and escalates...and then the ultimate TEST. Is the follower brainwashed enough by the Desteni cult to drink the potenti
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They won't post her painting, as all that stuff is controlled by SGI head-office. As stated, you have to post some stock-photo supposedly by Ikeda, but probably just purchased from a photographer. But SGI has strict rules around gifts. They will take that "art gift" and then likely pass it back upline to head-office. As SGI has invested millions in collecting art as a financia
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blablabla...appropriate handle. Seung Sahn was a FRAUD. Having sex with a bunch of women who are your students, and then lying about this to the public and students. So that is ok with blablabla? Sex with students? And lying about it? the Zen of deception? You betcha, and Seung Sahn would be proud of his Zen of Lying skills...literally. That is the kind of fake Zen he was practicing, where
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QuoteNichijewI love the Japanese YMD telling about how he didn't even have a bowl of rice before donating his last penny to the SGI and now he's driving a Lexus. These are the exact same SGI lies and vulgar propaganda that SGI has been using for decades. Years ago, people were chanting for a Mercedes, now its a Lexus. These guys simply LIE. They stand up, and tell brazen bald-
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Yes they have to pay for that, different rates for just using it a live event, or recording and broadcasting it. If they have broadcast it and did pay the proper rate, then it can be reported to ASCAP or the relevant company which will demand payment from SGI, if SGI is trying to pull a fast one. SGI-USA hires the top PR and US marketing agencies and people, to come up with new methods of adve
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It was shown previously, how the supposed big gift by SGI to SGI-UK, was a big sham. You announce this big fake gift of $40 million, but all the money is totally controlled by HQ in Japan. Soka Gakkai International -- SGI-UK Charity Number 1104491 Its like someone saying, ok Hitch, here is a gift of 40 million bucks! Alert the media. So...we'll keep the 40 million in our own inve
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Brilliant discovery. Clearly a copy. It really looks like something from the Elizabethan era, 2 S's with one reversed, forming a little heart, and a little M? Supreme Master Love-Bombing for profit. It looks like something from the age of classic romantic poetry. The movie picked it up from somewhere. Perhaps a movie fan site knows where they picked that image from. The Age of Innoce
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There are many important, and growing posts in this thread. Hopefully people realize that SGI-USA would stop at nothing to close down this thread if they could, but thankfully they cannot. SGI-USA has targeted and personally gone after many who dared to criticize and analyze SGI, using every means at their disposal. SGI-USA is a ruthless censorship machine, and propaganda machine, who hire the
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Classic Ching Hai. She is quite clever. She saw the 2012 doomsday nonsense has died out early, no one is buying it. So she got ahead of the curve, and reset the Ching Hai doomsday clock until sometime close to when she retires. Of course, as predicted in this thread. A total fraud, by the self-conscious conwoman Ching Hai. Now she is coming out with new rules, new orders, to DISTRACT peo
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The chanting is bait.
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Every cult uses celebrities as bait for new members. Its called Social Proof. And celebrities are EASY targets for most cultic recruiters, as cultic recruiters are experts, and many celebs have no clue of what is going on. Some celebs are not very smart, and its easy to believe Chanting brings everyday miracles, when you have 10 million in the bank a 3 personal assistants. For every Orlando B
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....that's why its helpful to research and study (from a skeptical cultic viewpoint) all sorts of different cults and sects. At first, it seems overwhelming. but after looking at dozens of them, even hundreds of them, you start to see they operate in very similar ways. There is nothing at all original about how the SGI sect operates. Every TECHNIQUE used by Ikeda has been written about by
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www.thework.com/school-staff-jobpref.php Its not enough to work for free for Byron Katie, you are told to bring and use your own private property in the BKI private business, and use your cell phones, iPhones, macs, MacBooks, cars, etc. What about the minimum wage labor laws? What about using other people's equipment in a private business? But never mind that, as seen in the BKI r
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SGI gets people to work for free. Many other sects do the same. Byron Katie makes millions, yet has figured out how to persuade others to work for her Corporation for free, doing jobs that should be paid.
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Byron Katie is a multimillionaire, and BKI makes millions a month, certainly. They are a private for-profit corporation, owned and operated by Byron Katie and her husband, and it appears a few others. Below are the job descriptions for the Byron Katie "school staff". Again, these "Staff" are unpaid labor. Notice that each of these "jobs" are paid jobs in any fi
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This is also related to the response people have to "movie stars" seen on the "big screen". It seems to distort the perception of these people in the audiences minds, by making them larger than life. After all, the images on the screen are huge. This is why Hitler used movies as propaganda, to make him seem like a superman. Many cults are now putting out movies about the c
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Yes, this is a huge thread with lots of good research, mixed with off-topic stuff, and some flaming, etc! But lots of good material in the thread. That text might be available offline on request from the author? also, try searching for the keywords in Google.
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ALL THE TIME!! Cult-hopping...frying pan to the fire... Seems most folks do that many times? Until they find another way of looking at things? QuoteHitch I'm only familiar with one (sg/sgi-x) cult, so I don't have anything to compare it to. However, in your expertise, experience and background how often do you find that people leave one cult only to later go join another (or even
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QuoteShavoy@The Anticult.....so in a way, too, this fusion, this One with Ikeda, means in essence that followers will lose their individual identities, and become mini-Ikedas? Is this also a end result desired by the Masters? Well of course, a person never totally loses their Identity, but feels as if they are fused or bonded with their image of Ikeda in their own mind. And of course, since I
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QuoteShavoy How the heck can you "understand Sensei's heart"?? Be his "arms and legs"? "Chant to be Sensei's disciple", "Chant to fulfill Sensei's expectations of you".... Cleary those are techniques taken from mysticism...in the sense of becoming "One" with the object of worship or God, in this case the fake Godman Ikeda. Bu
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Quotegohonzonchanter So whatever you are chanting for, or whatever you believe when you chant either negative or positive will materialize in your life. The above post is a false claim. Its wrong, and proven wrong. At best, its the Confirmation Bias. And SGI by Ikeda deliberately uses that bias to deceive the multitude, and destroy their ability for critical thinking. As stated, there i
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You can see all these SGI mind-tricks to keep people stuck in SGI for years or for life. Its like a hamster on a wheel trying to run harder to get off. If you are tired, work harder and longer hours! If things aren't going well, then chant harder and more! The more you chant, the less action you take, so the worse it gets. You ask for advice, and they tell you your chanting isn't b
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The Tonga business, frankly smells of money-laundering and serious corruption. If a large pool of dirty money can get hooked up with a small corrupt State, they can do pretty much anything they want, as there are no checks and balances. "Tonga was named the sixth most corrupt country in the world by Forbes magazine in 2008" Tongan Attorney-General resigns amid corruption scand
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These kinds of threads can really help people think about what's really going on, and to look at all sides of the issue from the privacy of their home computer, without any peer pressure or brow-beating from sect members at a meeting. They can look at the mountain of facts, look at the evidence, and make up their own minds about what is really going on, then decide for themselves.
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Can't believe no one has written the book...as part of SGI-USA... "Chant and Grow Rich". As a take-off of Think and Grow Rich. Its just the kind of thing people would buy, sadly. Former SGI members, Greed is Good, Chant and Grow Rich
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And of course being a Fortune Baby, is deep deep social engineering. Ikeda and Co know that if you get to the CHILDREN at birth, the chance of them keeping with it later is much higher. Also of course, parents will associate SGI with their own miracle SGI-baby, so it draws the entire family deeper into the sect. It must be similar to people who grew up in other sects, JW, Christian Science,
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