QuoteJack Oskar LarmMy need to divert from the 'main' topic was just to clarify my point. I felt strongly against the notion that one belief system was taking the high ground and that's not the aim of this message board. Anyway, it's a closed book now. Thats the problem with all belief systems, they all end up taking a high ground stance even if they try their best not to be
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QuoteON2 LFQuoteJack Oskar LarmSorry to sound like the Devil's advocate, but I don't consider a belief in Christian doctrine that different from Landmark's. You should never apologize for what you believe. I will presume we have differing thoughts on what Christian doctrine is. I'll just state mine: Christian doctrine is first a faith in a God you don't see in the carn
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My hat off to you sir! That pretty much nails them - twisted, bastardadized concepts that seem ever so benign but on closer inspection are just part of the control system they operate. I have TRIED TRIED TRIED to get this and many other of their trickery and lies across to leckies to no avail. Take the other LE favourite - Integrity. I quote Wikipedia - "Integrity is a characteristic
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmI think there are several levels to gossiping. All of them devoid of much substance. Most people don't like a gossip or a rumour-monger. And, I agree, there has to be an opportunity for the 'target' of gossip to be able to defend themselves. I think it's human to gossip. It's something that comes naturally to most of us and I think part of the reaso
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I just heard on the news that this PR company has now banned "Gossip". In fact, its fired 3 of its staff for committing this "offence". Does anyone else, like me, smell a rather large sewer rat whose name begins with "L" here? I just heard "the boss" being interviewed and it was like listeneing to "Death" speaking into a dustbin. BIGGG SHIVER!!!!!
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QuoteZorroFrom what I have come to understand, recovery from a LGAT is very much like recovery from a drug addiciton. I can testify that the withdrawal process is a real Bitch! And just like with drugs, a lot of close people can get hurt. In my opinion Landmark and all their evil little lookalikes should be classified by governments in a new category, beyond class A drugs - A++++++++ Maybe?
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Landmark have about as much chance of zombiefying the world by 2020 as the following - One of their Forum Leaders saying "Do you know, you might have a point there" A Lanndie Zombie going to bed before 2am A Landdie Supervisor saying "Hey, I don't think you should be here helping us for free 7 days a week"
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Come on everyone, lets see the funny side of all this. Only an LGAT owner / peddler would have the audacity to be a member of a site like this and indulge in a bit of "enrollment" of the non believers! Maybe it was a dare from a colleague????? "Hey, you know that site with loads of people on it who absolutely detest LGAT's?" "Well wouldn't it be like, awes
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Boonetahoe, Hopefully you have read the replies to your post and are willing to take "the Contribution" (More Landmark speak). What I see this forum saying to you is pretty clear I hope. I ask you to look at this and ask yourself the following - Let's say that Humankind is basically screwed / on the wrong track / doomed to failure (choose whatever you feel comfortable with).
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boonetahoe You sound like a very reasonable chap and I respect you for this very reasoned and balanced comment. I disagree with your conclusion however. My experience is purely of Landmark, the few seminars I attended, the effect it had on someone I loved and the route cause of a relationship break-up. I have posted a range of criticism's of this organisation on this board. Why? Well yes
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Am I the only one unable to reply to this post? Can a moderator check this out please. boonetahoe You sound like a very reasonable chap and I respect you for this very reasoned and balanced comment. I disagree with your conclusion however. My experience is purely of Landmark, the few seminars I attended, the effect it had on someone I loved and the route cause of a relationship break-up. I
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QuoteboonetahoeThe principle behind the Large Group Awareness Training is as simple as it is universal: life can be better if we take time out to think about it (and to experience it from a distance.) Putting all of the issues relative to LGATs aside for a moment – the manipulation, the abuse of power, the spiritualistic excesses – the general idea behind group training is that we can possibly
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boonetahoe You sound like a very reasonable chap and I respect you for this very reasoned and balanced comment. I disagree with your conclusion however. My experience is purely of Landmark, the few seminars I attended, the effect it had on someone I loved and the route cause of a relationship break-up. I have posted a range of criticism's of this organisation on this board. Why? Well yes
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Earth Construction Project……..Day 7……..In Heaven God refers to his “To do” list and shakes his head. Like all projects, the rubbish stuff has been left till last “How am I going to create all this shit by the close of business today and justify their creation?”. He asks himself. The list reads thus – Wasps Socks with bobbles on the back The Republican Party Train spotters Football suppo
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Back to the Light Bulb changing forum............. 3AM in the morning, in some city somewhere. Everyone else is either sleeping, getting laid or generally getting on with “normal” human activity #35 Takes to the stand with mild trepidation, sweat glistening oh his forehead. LBCFL "YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP" #35 "Well yes" LBCFL
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You guys are even more cynical than I am. Aheem! #32 receives a phone-call from a relative. It appears that their entire family has been the subject of a freak accident involving a Giant Light bulb landing on their house. #32 is torn between conflicting light bulb priorities. In the end of course his Landie Light bulb commitment is always more important and chooses to stay with the great debat
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmQuoteON2 LFOne size and one philosophy DOES NOT do the trick. That's my belief, too. ON2 LF, some really good responses! I think boonetahoe has found something that helps validate his/her journey. That's great, but it's obviously a bad strategy to post pro-LGAT stuff here. Always good to hear 'success' stories. A very good debate here and its inter
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QuoteMartinHall very dangerous stuff, LE zombies, recruiting other zombies ... life is empty and meaningless, Hitler was empty and meaningless ... MLK empty and meaningless ... Mother Theresa was running a racket ... o my god ... Yes, but I think we should put this into perspective. There is NO WAY these bunch of Looney tunes are going to recruit everyone in the world into their ridiculous worl
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Morning all. No 24, from the back of the light bulb changing gathering quite suddenly announces that she is not getting a feeling of positive energy about the way the group are being about light bulbs as a whole. She suggests that the group should adopt a different paradigm context of light bulb changing which will create an "empowered context" to the group as a whole. In so
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The 18th bulb changer will now take to the stand and declare that the 17th bulb changer is simply trying to look good by dazzling the coachlings with their own impossible vision. No 18 goes on to share with the group that he in fact, was once a light bulb changer for Microsoft Corporation and was fired for premature light bulb changing contrary to corporate policy. The seminar leader interjec
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Oh my, what have I started here. :D Lets shoot for a 100. No 16. To declare that he has observed that the failed light bulb's act was to impersonate a light bulb with far greater potential and to make other light bulbs wrong for lasting longer. He advises the new light bulb to create the possibility of a transformed light bulb experience, being fulfilled in its new way of being by con
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Me like this game :D No 10. One to communicate in very hushed and sincere tones that they are really not making the light bulb wrong for failing to work. Its just that it really didn't work for the group as a whole and maybe it should consider a new possibility of working for longer in future.
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Wait there's more! No 8 One to wait by the bathroom door to make sure you understand that any un authorised break may diminish, or even destroy the possibility of you really getting "the Light bulb changing experience"
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:lol: :lol: not forgetting number 7 One to reprimand you for not doing it when you said you were going to do it and how you should in future have an authentic light bulb changing commitment.
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Q - How many Landdies does it take to change a Light bulb? A - 5 One to tell you it doesn't matter anyway because the universe is meaningless, One to tell you its only your perception its broken and needs replacing One to lend you a spirit level to make sure its vertical when you are done One to tell you about the time they became "present" to a light bulbs r
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QuoteON2 LFQuoteNow it sounds like a Landmark promotion, except that they don't educate, they indoctrinate. They, like all the others, believe in absolute truth and that's where this scientist has to shake his head. I don't think there's any one key body that can unlock the shackles of our ignorance and stupidity. LGATs have the lollies; we have the sweet tooth. well sta
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These comments pretty much some up why they are almost impossible to defeat. Take a group of human beings, the sample being skewed towards the "troubled soul" variety. Then put them through a soul searching process with some quick wins up front to sort out friend and family break downs. Trust is earned early on. Concerns with the methods are cleverly concealed with double spe
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QuoteZorroThen the next step after SELP is the ILP where you get to once again...drum roll..... have the life you want and help influence society and be further asimilated into "group" thinking. Oh but wait.....don't forget the year long training where you can become a Landmark course leader....or wait how about the "Wisdom Course"? A person can lite
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I m guessing most LE survivors here have heard the Leaders using the extract from the Matrix where Morpheus is explaining to Neo the real reason for the Matrix and its purpose - "You have been living in a dream world Neo". So basically Landmark are trying to use a well known film to convince everyone that until stumbling into Landmark, they have been in an "unreal&q
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QuoteVic-LucBlue...these sound like great ideas. But. And I have to say this as one human to another: You sound like you're still clinging to LE, Blue. Or an apologist. There are many 12 step programs out there that are absolutely free. There are many group counseling sessions that are quite inexpensive. These are just a few examples. There's no need for something that alread
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