Pwl, Are you wanting to discuss Landmark / EST or world politics? The last time I checked this forum was about LGAT's not how bad Bush or Cheney is. I'm more than happy to debate politics, but not here. I don't necessarily agree with everything that has gone on in Iraq. But, ask yourself this. Was it right for Saddam to gas the Kurds? Was it right for Sadams son to rape women
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QuotepwlInstead we have people like Bush spreading their christian war dogma killing people. It is sickening. Now who has a fervant hatred here Pwl? Pwl, Have you ever met Bush? Take a look at yourself and your statement and you will understand why we do not like Werner Erhardt. In a few short months the Bush administration will be in the history books and he will be replaced by someone else
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Here is some info I found on Wiki:
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I hear you patrick-darcy. Our government is out to lunch on many things, Landmark is just one of them. But the government is a whole can of worms unto itself! I don't even want to get started! Anyhow, this is exactly why we all need to take things into our own hands and go after Landmark on our own and as a group, regardless of the country we happen to live in. It all starts with us and w
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I'm familiar with the phone calls. They have different names and different purposes. One set of phone calls is for group leaders where they have "coaching" calls with the class instructor. These are conference calls. The purpose of these calls is to get instruction and assistance on maintianing motivation within the work group that the group leader is leading and getting people
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How long has he been involved in Landmark? Has he been involved with it since he stated acting weird 8 years ago or did he just recently become involved with the group? It's odd that he would hide his involvement from the get go. Every Lekkie I've known, including myself, talk about Landmark and try to recruit their friends and family members into the organization. Landmark will defi
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Quotejp27Quotepatrick-darcyand keep in mind there is a possibility that she will become his "perfect girlfriend". if that is what he wants from her and if she goes there with that in mind. She has no idea about the "perfect girlfriend" motive he has for her going to landmark. He hears these other couples at landmark saying how wonderful everthing is with them. He wants t
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The last couple of days mark the anniversery of me realizing that Landmark is a cult. Calling them on their crap and basically telling them to F-ck Off in front of a room full of students. This last year has been a tough one of recovery and rebuilding myself. Today I am happy to say that I am a much stronger man than I ever was before. My BS detector is finely tuned. And I'm doing and get
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LOL! New Agers and LGAT'ers should try the following exercise: To align myself I like to drive throught the desert at night at 90+ MPH after being up for 18 hours straight. I achieve balance during this time by drinking massive amounts of highly caffinated truckstop coffee. The coffee really hightens my sense of self awareness. For a little motivation I put in a Rob Zombie or Kid Rock
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I saw those pro Landmark comments. Made me want to barf.
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Is Landmark still active in these countries? I recall reading about Landmark closing it's German offices. How about in Switzerland? The Swiss don't take kindly to groups and individuals that cause problems, so are they active in Switzerland? What is their status in Austria?
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If this person really did have the apprehensions about Landmark before that she wrote about, then it just goes to show how quickly a person can be taken by Landmark. Which inturn shows how they've perfected subtially brainwashing people. Landmark is dangerous and reading her article made me a bit quesy and uncomfortable.
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Kudo's to Nettie's posts and efforts. Lekkie better realize that Nettie is a force to be reconded with and isn't bs-ing around either. Nettie is serious!
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I wonder how this has happened? Is there a staff member at the Museum that is a Landmark convert? This is apalling. How did you find this? You can PM me if you like.
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zastdbox, I've sent you a PM. Zorro
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Elena, I love what you wrote. The Cliff Notes analogy is so appropriate! LOL. It's revolting to know that Werner was a salesman. People like him are a disgrace to the profession and make me want to puke. I'm a Salesman myself and a Professional one at that. In fact the requriement of my position is that one MUST have at the minimum a college degree. Preferably a Technical degree t
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zasdabox, Sounds like you all may have a case. Definately seek out legal counsel like a labor attorny. Is the state that you work in a right to work state? I know Texas is and that employers can let an employee go for almost any reason and the employee can't do anything about it. The reverse is also true, an employee can leave on a whim as well. Does you're husband have any doc
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Hey Lekkie, You sound a lot like the old Pragmatist that used to be on here. I know you're your new and all. But you Eastern European computer guys shure do seem a lot a like ;-) Zorro.
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QuoteLekkieQuotenettieHi Lekkie, in landmark world nothing really exists unless you say it out loud. Actually landmarkers are caught up in a vicious landmark thought system mind trap. They say that you are a machine - either you are running your racket or your winning formula/strong suit. When forum leaders does not meet their statistics they run their racket on the assistants. When they fu
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This web site has been very instrumental in my recovery. It is this site which helped me find out that I wasn't the only one going through this. It has been a good place to have an open discussion about Landmark and it's impact upon my life and the lives of others.
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I'm interested in knowing how many people have decided to not take the Landmark Forum and even decided to quit taking Landmark Education Seminars after they read the information on this web site and other websites and the posts that people have made in this discussion Forum or other discussion groups? Surely everyone of the regulars on here wonder the same thing. We would all love to h
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Nothing wrong with making a lot of posts. It's part of the healing and learning process. When I first got on here I posted a lot. Now I just come and go as things come up the peak my interest or if I have a question. Right now I'm posting a lot. But next week I may need to concentrate on other things. Definately keep up the posts. This helps people, especially the ones that havent ye
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Nettie, Your right about trying to get your relationship partner into Landmark. I tried that, didn't work. She read about Landmark and had a strong reaction. Then worked on getting me out of it. But not before our relationship was destroyed. But I would have never left it if I hadn't realized it myself. I felt like she was attacking me the whole time. The sad part is that we tried ha
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QuoteSulaleeI have read elsewhere that for single women, involvement in Landmark has an underlying wish for finding a partner. This, however, almost never happens, and if it does, it is short-lived. I know my friend hooked up with several guys from her Landmark group, but nothing really went beyond that. Also, the other thing that happens is that people involved in LM tend to drag their partne
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QuoteEurope-girlHmm Zorro, you could argue that all this "communication stuff" and happy clappy feeling business, brings men further away from their core then it does for women. But that is based on the idea men-Mars / women-Venus. You could also argue that people heavily involved with LM (which is true for people in assisting programmes) are more stressed out then average, more sleep
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Quotecorboy Has any supervisor at any LGAT who tells people to go off their psych meds ever told people never to use Viagra or Cialis? LOL!!! They would probably claim its your way of thinking that is keeping you from getting it up!! But as a side note. When I was in Landmark I started to notice that my fellow men seemed to not have the sex drive that guys would normally do. There was
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You're right Europe-girl there is always another course to take. As far as the Communications Course I and II goes. I took both of them. The Communications Course II is a really hard sell approach on recruiting. The instructor will tell you adamantly that the only way to have success in your life is for all of the people around you that you associate with be enrolled in Landmark. That wit
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I'm not sure about that. Are you talking about the SELP (Self Expression and Leadership Program)? I was in the middle of the SELP when I basically told Landmark to go stick it up their butt. The whole purpose of the SELP, which I paid for and so does everybody for that matter, is to take what you've learned in Landmark and take it out into "your communities". What this basi
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I'm glad the lady is doing better. However, she is giving Landmark credit where it is not due. I'm also afraid that if she keeps relying on Landmark for healing that it will come back and she will not seek treatment and put her life at risk. The things that she is doing in her life outside of Landmark, like the exercise will definately help her. A healthy body always surmounts a dise
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QuoteLekkieZorro - I was not skirting responsibility - I _have_ a child too. All I said was to for mom1313 to say it like this - "Son, I have fear, doubt and uncertainty about you attending the adult Landmark Forum as a result of my attendance to it". At that point she could say this - "Would you be interested in attending it?", rather than bark a command - "DON'T DO
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