QuoteexImpactI know that personally, the Quest and Summit trainings were directly responsible for almost all of the damage my life has undergone since I decided to "trust" Hans Berger. exImpact, I feel for you. My Landmark encounter definately shook things up in my life as well. For a while I was mad at myself for what was going on with me. Then after reading post of people
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Luckily, the Landmark center I took the Forum, Advanced Course, SELP, and other classes is located in North Dallas and just a couple of blocks from food and just minuets away from any kind of resturant you could desire. They also told us we could bring food, and keep it in a neighboring room. I kept power bars in my car as well as water. If I got hungry I would get a quick bite from a fast food p
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QuotethankfulI must say those are interesting comments. The concept of brainwashing only makes sense if you want to be a victim. If you take responsibility for your choices then this conversation and website wouldn't be happening. As far as the cost of the program is very affordable and I would have paid 20 times what it costs. This will be the last time I write to you: I want to
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What do you all think about Landmarks "Landmark 2020" goal of having everyone on the planet "Transformed" by the year 2020?
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I'm interested in knowing how people got lured into Landmark? I got lured into Landmark because I thought I was going to be taking classes that would help me out in business and investing. A friend of mine (currently still in Landmark) told me it would help me out and that it had helped her out in business. I met her right before she went into Landmark. Then after a few months she bought
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Vic-Luc, I like your acronym "IFLP" :lol:
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What Vic-Luc was referring to is the exercise that people in ILP are supposed practice smiling for 2 minuets a day. They may have to do other things infront of the mirror, I can't recall. I just remember hearing ILP people talk about it. Oh and how about this form of ILP Lekkie comic release. Recite some poem about a Mosquito infront of a room full of fellow Lekkies and be all animated an
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QuoteSamuelMy ex-wife had her journal from the PSI Ranch and she had written about "the sharing" and how it effected her staring into the eyes of complete strangers. They do a similar exercise in the Landmark Advanced course and your standing just inches away from the person looking straight into their eyes for a very long time while the instructor goes on about how the person
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QuoteajinajanQuoteZorroAre there any obsticals to a group being formed? I'm sure Landmark and others wouldn't want one to form. But other than that what could keep one from being formed? We can create an online version right now, and make it by invitation only so it's safe, either online with Yahoo Groups, or MySpace, or something like that if you want to ... If there is enoug
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Shad, I'll have to go look who I had in my notes. I took a lot of notes in all of the sessions after the Forum, where I couldn't take notes.
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Are there any obsticals to a group being formed? I'm sure Landmark and others wouldn't want one to form. But other than that what could keep one from being formed?
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Vic-Luc, Exactly! I have a career in Industrial Sales where I not only have to convince people and corporations to buy my products and services I have to provide help to the customer whenever I'm called on. I'm disgusted at the thought that I was even associated with Landmark. I feel that it has actually jepordized my career and I'm currently doing damage control because of i
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Shad, I believe that often times the staff and leaders may be victims themselves. From what I saw everyone at some point started out as a guest of someone to either the Landmark Forum or EST. Then they latched on to Landmark/EST ideology and decided to dedicate themselves to transforming peoples lives, through various degrees / levels of participation such as leading a introduction, being a co
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I'm trying to bring humor back into my life. I kind of lost my sense of humor during my tenure as a Lekkie. As they say in the non Lekkie world, Laughter is the best medicine....I'd rather laugh than be on Prozak!
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I couldn't get these links to work on my computer so I looked up Landmark on Youtube. It was disturbing to watch a Lekkie try to talk about how positive Landmark is. The couple of videos that I viewed were very short under three minuets and basically didn't say a darn thing. The guys would just talk in circles saying Landmark was great but would never give specifics. They would say
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Are there any locally based support groups out there for people that have left or thinking of leaving a LGAT but don't know where to go for help? Something like the ones for people who leave abusive relationships or other bad situations. I've found links on this and other sites as to where to go for professional help in some states. But I haven't seen anything like what I'm ta
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When I helped to set the rooms for an ILP weekend they were totally anal about the chairs being aligned correctly and having the right number of chairs. We worked late into the night moving and arranging chairs. It bordered on the ridiculus. Especially because the people incharge couldn't even make up their mind on how it should be set up. They couldn't think for themselves. I kept aski
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QuoteThe Shadowoh yes, and about the BS detector: - when you get that gut feeling that something just does not "feel" or "smell" right (believe it or not I have an ultra-sensitive olfactory system, and I really do "smell" when something is not quite right!!) ...anyway, I digress... also, that little voice in your head, LISTEN TO IT... 's
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I over generalized a bit. I understand the difference between a trained person with academic and professional credentials. What I was referring to mainly are the "Self Help Guru's" that make the Seminar circuits. You know the ones I'm talking about. The guys that do a presentation about how a person can become successful. But oh by the way in order to get the knowl
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QuotespoonyI think they are aware of this - I noticed a number of LF leaders who would arrive with their own mattresses to catch some sleep during the breaks in the courses. :shock: That's down right freaky! Sounds like they are already over the edge.
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Here is another organization to keep your eye on, the Transformational Leadership Council. I found out about this organization about a month ago when I was still a member of the Raymond Aaron Monthly Mentor Program (Another good way to waste your money). I used to recieve monthly CD's from the Monthly Mentor Program which are interviews with different supposedly successful people t
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QuoteThe Shadow I would like to know a little more about this. Specifically when you tracked back to the Advanced Course. The Advanced Course had the biggest single impact upon me. But I can go all the way back to the Forum. What I did was I just started looking for something that would have caused a dramatic change in me. The Advanced course is f**king intense. Very few people will com
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Quoteajinajan Zorro, Thank you so much for posting this. We all really appreciate your information and your candor. Here is the specific investigation out of the Texas Federal Department of Labor Office: And here is the specific contact information for the Texas branches of the United States Federal Department of Labor : Quote Texas Dallas District Office US Dept. of Labor ESA W
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QuoteThe ShadowHi Zorro, another question: finally I noticed a pattern with my friend in reference to Landmark and the internet. We where just sitting chatting, after she had told me that she had broken up with her boyfriend (he dumped her because he was fed up with the way she had become and he knew it was because of Landmark/EST) ....she was in tears saying: "I feel so stupid, how c
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QuoteON2 LFThis thought gives me much encouragement and I hope that there will be more people like you reporting their freedom here soon, zorro. I would like to see other ex-Lekkies on here telling it like it is. I cetainly don't mind telling my side of what I saw. I will not be silenced! Anytime I hear someone talking about Landmark or joining Landmark I'll be in the middle of it.
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QuoteON2 LFAlso, your posting here prompts me to want to be more patient with the friend I lost to landmark. I know she doesn't have anyone left if she leaves landmark (not that she has any friends there). Thanks for choosing to post here, and like sonnie-dee, you present a good case as to why lekkie's 'outside' friends should not walk away from them forever. ON2 LF, Hope
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QuoteajinajanDid you know that Landmark Education has been investigated twice in France by the French Federal labor bureau, and three times in the United States by the Federal Department of Labor? Actually, the most recent investigation in the United States concluded in 2006 out of the Texas branch of the United States Federal Department of Labor. Ajinajan, The Landmark branch you are re
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QuoteON2 LF Welcome back to free living again, zorro. It is encouraging to know that you would still make it out in spite of how deeply involved you were. How were you able to begin questioning what was going on, when at the time the discrepancies must have seemed absurd to you? Well for one I started wondering when the so called wonderful success was going to start happening for me. By nature
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I got out of Landmark in June 2007 when I finally realized that they are a cult and the negative impact on my life that being in Landmark was creating. The thing that got me out of Landmark is that the woman that I'm dating started pointing things out to me that didn't make sense. So I stated questioning what was going on. She was persistent otherwise I might still be in there. Anoth
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