i am not trying to make u believe that they are brainwashing their more liberal people. im not sure they have any liberal people in the christian right. they are teaching their right wing people to vote for their republican candidates or to stay home that day. if u will watch a little news and do some reading on the internet u will hear it more and more. "i just might stay home th
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heres another one from 1886 WASHINGTON, DC (CWN) - A Christian political lobbying group warned on Sunday that many conservative Christians may stay away from the polls on Election Day rather than vote for Bob Dole. Martin Mawyer, president of the Christian Action Network, wrote in an opinion piece in The Washington Post that many pro-family conservative Christians feel ignored or betraye
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heres mention of it again.
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the program was on nbc. it was hardball. i will see if i can get the guys name today. it was there though. a suggestion to "stay home that day "
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i heard it again today. i was watching a liitle television and on one of the news programs some guy that just released a book i think said that the republicans just may decide to stay home that day. its coming from everywhere. the church putting this idea in peoples heads and the people that lead the republican party have their fellow republicans , min controlled in a sense. they wi
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i dont have any links at the moment but i think it would be interesting as the election draws nearer to keep this thread open so we can actually see it in action. because their candidates have gotten themselves involved in so much corruption we will hear this over and over from many different people. in this article it was said in passing, the man theme of this article is not "s
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there was another thread where we were discusing or least i was mentioning the brain wash of the right wing christians. i couldnt remember which one it was so i am going to get it going again. i mentioned how they were taught practically from birth to hate everybody that doesnt think just like them. well here is a little mention again of staying home that day. the right wing preach
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and sometimes its not when they just hit bottom. people have nagging problems that they carry with them everyday. these encounters make them have a sense of accomplishment but the people are not aware of just what the real accomplishment was. they end up feeling good about themselves and of course the credit goes to the group or the leader that helped them get there. manipulation is
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one thing that so many of these groups have in common is that they empower themselves over their victims while their victims are convinced they have empowered themselves, even over others. power , domination and money is what so many of these groups are about. trust in these groups is given and then they destroy peoples lives, then create in a sense a new one for them.
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if the scientologists hadnt made sure that hubbard was cremated almost immediately after he died he would be the one doing backflips in his grave. landmark is scientology in a different wrapper.
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QuoteAcid ReindeerI meant esoteric in the specific meaning of belonging to the Eastern or Western Esoteric Traditions. esotericism" versus the merely esoteric. like I said, you would learn by doing a web search on this and reading something about what this means. well look at the last part of the definition i posted. its there :) one of the universals of these traditions involves
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QuoteAcid ReindeerQuotejoe6For example, I can go down to the corner church and without any deception they will tell me "We will have communion and hand you some bread and wine and tell you it is the body and blood of Christ, who rose from the dead. It's all in the Bible. Here have a copy. We all gather to help each other pray to an invisible being to solve our problems." I can sa
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esoteric The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 Esoteric \Es`o*ter"ic\ (s`[-o]*t"k), a. 1. Designed for, and understood by, the specially initiated alone; not communicated, or not intelligible, to the general body of followers; private; interior; acroamatic; -- said of discussions of technical topics and of the private and mor
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i also want to mention that landmark has the forum set up and designed , some are for preachers . they actually have a forum for clergy. this may sound rather silly to some of u but to some of u it wont. imagine in landmarks empowerment process while the people are wailing and screaming and crying, imagine while they are completely unaware of what is going on around them that the f
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yes, i see your point. where do u draw the line. maybe the government could put out a few commercials that warn people to be careful and that there are unscrupulous groups out there waiting to take their minds and their money. that would be a start.
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its amazing to actually read how people have to give up those they care about because of the cults. while the government and most everybody else just turns their heads , looking the other way. this is not a united country. only in a united country do people look out for each other.
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yes, very strange indeed. but remember its all about money.
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QuotenutrinoQuoteIt's still so hard to cope with... that I was seduced by a pod person...a drone...a siren for Werner. Par for the course... the Scientologists tried that one on me too. Hey, you shoulda been there for Sex Nite on the Six Day Course... would anyone here be interested in knowing more about the porn movies and suchlike ? i have asked on newsgroups about the sex night and
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ok, if there are problems with me talking about the christian right and other groups in relation to landmark i wont go there. but i dont believe we will ever have a discussion that thouroughly understands why landmark is allowed to continue unabated without showing the relationship between cults, the christian right, our government and other groups. landmark does not exist becau
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hard selling is considered by many of landmarks fans to be "a necessary evil". some people will complain about it but they never make any attempt to change it. i believe its one of landmarks outlets for their victims. if they have at least something to complain about then they can say "we arent brainwashed" because if we were brainwashed we wouldnt complain about anyth
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that reminded me when i took the forum how jinnendra had the assistants pass out papers for us to sign. i heard somebody ask what they were about and as i got my papers to sign he told us that they were just papers allowing them or him to work with us. this may have been papers reqlinquising our rights in case something we wrong but i didnt have the time to read them. as i started to r
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there is the possibility that they are paying landmark for the right to the tech. i have never read anything on which companies do this . it appears to be a very big secret in landmark.
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and its so easy for people to want to remove their pasts from their lives. a lot of what makes people so vulnerable is past abuse. so many people have been abused that even without the cults they want to rid themselves of their past. in america we have abused each other to the point that it seems that u either join into a cult and remove your past or feel badly about yourself.
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its a shame what people will do to each other for money and power. i belleve there will come a day of reckoning. landmarks teaching that life has no meaning is showing up more and more in the lives of americans. its a pity and a shame.
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it amazes me sometimes to hear from so many people, to read so many different accounts of friends or family or boyfriends or girfriends or whatever that are now involved in the landmark cult. i think it would be interesing to have a discussion as to why so many people are so vulverable to them. i understand the hyponosis and how effective it is but to get hypnotised the people gotta sho
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in the forum i took, jennenrah the forum leader told a women in our group, a young women in her early twenties that had cancer that if she had joined up with landmark sooner she never would have gotten cancer in the first place u can draw your own conclusions from that statement.
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and so many people have been like u. that is why it is so difficult to get through the people that have been in the forum and even to reach those that have had friends do it. their friends come back and they are so full of energy and they feel good. remember they had nothing to give. anything u may feel they gave u u gave to yourself.
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QuotegrubQuote a women is raped repeatedly at the age of 6 say, in landmark they convince thier victims that their past has no meaning. the hypnosis works and the people feel good about thermselves. ... and if the woman continues to be emotionally traumatized that's just her racket and she's at fault for making herself a victim. What BS. exactly and if she still continues to be t
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QuoteGulab JamonQuotepatrick-darcyu seem to have a tendency to insist that there is something good in landmark. until u relieve yourself of this way of thinking i believe u will probably go back again. Hey, give her a break! She has a right to her opinion. She's done Landmark and you haven't, and if she says she got something good out of it along with the bad, who are you to tell
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