u seem to have a tendency to insist that there is something good in landmark. until u relieve yourself of this way of thinking i believe u will probably go back again. u have basically said they there abusive, not in those terms , they would not let u leave without signing up. hopefully u dont have some kind of emotional problem that landmark fulfills for u. stand up for yourself. sa
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no, not as any good saleperson would do. its your mind they play with. if u have no respect for your own thinking then its your gig.
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a few years ago i found the scientology personality test on the internet and decided to take it. it was rather a short test not more than 20 or 30 questions. i finished it and sent it back my email. when i got my results it seemed that for some reason they didnt like my answers, because they changed some of them for me and then gave me their pitch. it was amazing to see that if they do
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u stand u and say no. they wont appear to understand what no means but u tell them no. or........ u let yourself be mainuplated by other people. people that dont have your best at heart. its up to u. sometimes u have to stand up for yourself. if u cant they will enroll u. which brings me to another point. so many people especially in the united states seem to be almost unable t
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QuoteAcid ReindeerQuotepatrick-darcywhen a group has *more* in common with something doesnt mean it doesnt have something in common with something else. true. Crowley did not practice Satanism. he practiced his own religion which he called Thelema. he did not worship Satan except in the broad sense of opposing institutional Christianity and believing that the time of the Father (the patria
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its already in the rick ross sight.
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when a group has *more* in common with something doesnt mean it doesnt have something in common with something else. est or landmark has some of its roots in satanic religion. now the whole formum u could say is not completely satanic but part of it is. this is what happened when i attened the forum given out by that nasty little man jinnendra jain. this is how the empowerment proce
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"I don't know much about L. Ron Hubbard except I have read some of his science fiction books plus a long long time ago when I was probably 15 read Dianetics after seeing a television commercial about it. I've heard some quotes about L. Ron Hubbard indicating he thought making a religion was a great way to make money. " if u do some research on hubbard u will find that his g
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what have u done ? at this point all u have done is give landmark about four hundred dollars. is your mind worth more to u than that ? u can attempt to get your money back but if u dont u have just lost some money. can u live with that ?
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maybe they pay landmark for the rights to do their work ?
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QuotelanajaeQuoterrmoderatorSounds like you may need to consult with an attorney in your area. What I've found is that unless something bad happens, there isn't a way to intervene unless the kids ask for help. So far all that's happened is the kids sat through a long meeting with some strange people and all they want to do is forget about it, and not discuss it. Both kids kno
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QuoteDynamixQuotepatrick-darcyby the time u awaken from your coma u may find that world is definately not the same. I don't understand. Can you explain what you mean? by the time u awaken from your coma u may find that your world is definately not the same. i left out a word, sorry. landmarks way of working with people does not empower them, it does not increase your potential f
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by the time u awaken from your coma u may find that world is definately not the same.
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with all these clients and all the individuals they acquire and they have the gall to use people for free labor. they make loads of money. they say they dont but then they dont have any truth now do they :)
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the only big ones i have ever heard of are ford, general motors, chrysler also but they have been sold to the germans so i do wonder if they are still reimbursing for programs. on some of landmarks internet pages they have shown some oil companies. none of the big ones that i am aware of.
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this may be of help to u. landmark grads have mentioned in the past on alt.fan.landmark, the google group how landmark has become involved in general motors and ford. if u see some of the problems these companies are having , some of it must surely be due to the widining belief that there is no future only the present. these are two companies that landmark takes money from that reimbu
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yes, u are correct. they havent said they didnt make any profit but they have implied to the people that they might not be able to survive without all the free labor. they do imply that in order for people to "get" the most from their forum or other program that they need to volunteer. do u have any idea how much they were paying for their offices in the world trade center?
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i find it interesting that landmark preaches how they dont make much profit, even though they say they are a for profit company and then we find out that their main offices at one time were in the world trade center. if they arent making much money then how could they afford to office there in the first place. they dont have any truth u know.
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here is one of landmarks games. they ask u to choose between choclate and vanilla. they tell not to think but to just choose. what is required of people is to not think. thinking is not highly thought of in cults. i learned this from people on newsgroups. when i took the forum they didnt do this one for some reason. mind control techniques are very effective. if u dont believe me
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this is a shame the way landmark abuses people and its a shame the way the people that obviously have already been brainwashed into believe they are enlightened somehow cooperate with it. this is abuse people . u can call it some thing else if u makes u feel better about yourself but this is abusive behavior. now with that being said, it wont stop. there arent enough people in the unit
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sing em this and see what happens. babylon, by Dave Gray > Friday night I'm going nowhere > All the lights are changing green to red > Turning over TV stations > Situations running through my head > looking back through time > You know it's clear that I've been blind > I've been a fool > To
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and throw in a little hypnotism that u arent aware of and there u have it. thats why its called brainwashing.
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the short answer to your question is *NO* .
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the long answer to your question is*NO* .
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here is another example of landmark breaking down a family. hang in there and dont let them convince u to take the forum..
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what michael said is good advice. come to this newsgroup as often as u need, thats what its for.
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Quotesonnie_deeThriving, most people I know who also quit have seen their lives inprove dramatically, they have rebuilt their friendships which are also a great support to them and they are in a much better financial position. i have also seen this. its interesting to listen to the people that do seem to do better after having done the forum landmarks hypnosis child resgesses their vict
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could i ask what your ages are. how hold is he and how old are u ? thanks
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very interesting. it would be great if u could us posted as to what he says and does. u can always come here if u need some help on how to handle him.
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i am not by any means pro landmark. i think it would be best to shut it down but i am willing to talk to u . i have taken the forum in 1996.
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