QuoteHopeful SoulArmy-of-me, No need to apologize for your comments of yesterday questioning my comment on the Impact learning statement, “The purpose of life is to learn.” Your reaction is typical of LDS folks exposed to the Impact false, vain and foolish doctrine.... Quotearmy-of-me QuoteHopeful Soul The purpose of life therefore for a Mormon is not to learn, as Impact says, but to prove
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You may think it strange, but I have enjoyed the spam-shower. It would seem our collective sword thrusts have hit home. Nothing like a visible display of hypocrisy from these LGAT moral-elitists to warm the bones. :)
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QuotePassionateOnslaught? Spam? Has Rick denied the posts? Is he not posting them because they have an apologist slant to them? I say let them come. The spam is from new topics, not posts.
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QuotePassionateIts called an alternate name. It is derived form a painful experience from that person's past. "Grandpa's Joy Toy" might be given to someone who was sexually abused by their grandpa. This name is used for about a day in place of their real name. The staff all get together on one of the breaks and sit in the lunchroom discussing these shared experie
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QuoteunresolvedI don't believe it does, as the same goal of breaking down what YOU thought about the even is still there. They certainly don't want you to come to your own conclusions about the value of what they're doing. LOL yeah, I DARE a person in TIT 1 to ask Hans Berger for proof or support for his outrageous claims. I triple DOG dare ya. I triple stamp that dare, with no e
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Quoterrmoderator The primary difference between the two LGATs seems to be the addition of certain religious beliefs. Isn't that so? That is so.
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They did not go into detail, but it was their impression that a few people who were married to other people were in the same bed or sleeping bag or something for a night. It was a rumor understand, but it was wide spread. The details were fuzzy, but the occurrence of the misconduct was not. That was their impression, and Hans' chastisement of the group confirmed the suspicions.
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QuotePassionateThis may be a bit off subject, but on those retreats Hans seems to like the women a little too much. You will get no argument from me on that score. But you may not want to limit it to just the retreats. Now for Rsw, The Impact Training track is thus: Quest - the introduction and initial conditioning Summit - the reinforcement and indoctrination of that conditioning Lif
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QuotePassionateDoes anyone care to tell about a TIT III retreat they have been on? Like the one a few years ago where they 'released' the trapped spirits of a Pioneer slaughter in Central Utah? I wasn't there, but I did have a few acquaintances who were still in TIT3 for the Native American thing who told me all about it. They had been on the fence about being in TIT when the tr
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QuotePassionateEximpact, I find your banter and passion endearing. You consider what I have shared in this forum is mere banter? I don't BANTER here! This is life! Its the real deal! There are many, MANY, MANY victims on these boards, and I have done everything I can to expose this Impact con-game at great emotional expense. BANTER!?! check please...
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QuotePassionateEximpact, I find your banter and passion endearing. You really do feel strongly in victims. If they keep seeing themselves as victims they will remain that way for a longer period of time. In your psychology studies I'm sure you have come across that fact. Actually, in my studies, it is not such a cut and dry matter as you make it out to be. Again, you speak about somethi
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QuoteRswinters I am considering taking a break from this website not because I am in disagreement with what is being shared. It is however touching on the severe emotional wounds from my very recent enmeshed involvement with Klemmer… Hi Rs, You posted this quite awhile ago, and I wanted to tell you from personal experience that “taking a break” can be very helpful. I didn’t go cold turkey, bu
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Well, how about instead of using your mind or your heart, why not use your brain? I mean, it controls the heart muscle and all emotional and rational processes occur there. Why is it that the most complicated organ in the world shouldn't get the nod for all the credit. Evidentially it is quite well documented that your brain can do all the things attributed to both the mind and "heart&q
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QuotedamagedbyassociationSorry about the mistake exImpact. That's two personality mistakes I've made, and I just joined. Thanks for the image. Also, Rswinters, I think I can relate to some of your troubles. Those are what brought me here to this forum, and I've found some relief in being able to read other's experience and know that I'm not alone in my feelings, thou
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QuoteRswintersQuoteexImpactFollow this link if you would like to see what I did last night. (I inverted the colors to avoid infringing on copyright) :D Can you modify the image to have LGAT versus I being only in the cross hiars in this image? In my case it would have a K in the cross hairs. But, as I have discovered its not just Klemmer, or Impact that needs to be in our cross hairs
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While quite shocking, this "Quest mob" mentality is the ultimate goal of not only Impact, but the LGAT format in general. Group dynamics are a complicated form of classical conditioning, and over the last 40 years or so the techniques have become sophisticated. The trainers at Impact justify this unethical behavior and dishonorable treatment of people because, well, we are the enemy. In
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QuoteDisgruntledI think the only thing Robert didn't lie about was that Impact changes lives. He got that right. Yes, quite. May I ask what you are disgruntled about with regards to Impact, or do you have a personal beef with Paisola?
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Quotemaurice To Rswinters: dont' apologize to Moneytrainer. No one should ever apologizes to those people. You said nothing but the truth. cheers to that!
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Follow this link if you would like to see what I did last night. (I inverted the colors to avoid infringing on copyright) :D
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It's that time of the month again! (I know it is arbitrary when I choose "that time" to be, but I like doing it so much!) 3/24/07-10336 4/02/07-11400 5/17/07-15315 6/21/07-30620 7/14/07-42264 and 500 replies
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Oh, come now RsW! I know you like to avoid cursing, but not even a "LOL" out of you for me calling them "Klemmer and Asses" all this time? I've been doing it for YOU my friend! :D
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Quotefatherof3I want to apologize to anyone that thought i was judging them...I dont know what to think and would love some feedback. Thanks, fatherof3 First, a response to the subject of this quoted post. I thought understanding was the booby prize, so if you believe the Impact jargon, why do you care if you were misunderstood or not? Judge away. We all do it. Heck, you can't escap
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QuoterrmoderatorPhilips: There you go again. The reason some critics repeat themselves is most often because apologists raise the same defenses over and over again. fatherof3 is listed as an active member. BTW--"Philips" you are banned for breaking the rules, by posting under more than one name (aka "Otter"). Thanks for illustrating how Impact devotees repeatedl
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Quotefatherof3:shock: It is interesting how people will be quick to slam something that they no nothing about. We dont have the right to judge anyone for what they believe or dont believe. Everyone is different and should have the opportunity to experience what is right for them. I have recently gone through Impact and have no desire to go into TIT but did at one time. I was never forced to s
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QuoteformerimpactgradI have watched and contributed to this thread for about 8 months now. In the beginning most of the contributors were people who knew about Impact but had no personal experience. Their dealings with friends and family involved in the training added a useful perspective but there was very little information available on the actual trainings...Several former grads began adding i
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QuotePhilipsQuoteIf you're going to reject the program THEN REJECT THE D@#% PROGRAM. Otherwise, keep using the rites, methods, and light work tools and stay crazy with the rest of them. QuoteIts ridiculous that we have to keep reading that garbage from you Why is it that in this open forum, when someone says something that is contrarian to what others think, they are said to be crazy and
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Quoteoutofimpact...There will be disagreements. In my opinion, that is the normal way of life. I would be somewhat frightened if there were no difference of opinion. We are all living with our own filters and experiences. Let us be openminded enough to give others thoughts and experiences a chance to be heard. Outofimpact Well said. I am all for giving others thoughts and experiences a cha
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QuotePhilipsIt sounds like unless anyone has specific questions or observations here about Impact, and not LGAT's in general, this thread has reached its end. It’s either that or the purpose for the message board is that it is a place for people to express their strong opinions about any given subject. Why do we have to agree in order to continue to have a dialogue? I must admit, I don’t l
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Madness...
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QuoteHopeful SoulProfessing and Practicing Hypocrisy is professing religion and not practicing it. Here we have an LGAT that practices religion and refuses to profess it. Qualified professionals in California are working toward reforming the LGAT model by removing secrecy, increasing the professional level of trainers, reducing training class sizes, etc. All this will impact the bottom lin
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