QuoteZorroQuoteexImpactI know that personally, the Quest and Summit trainings were directly responsible for almost all of the damage my life has undergone since I decided to "trust" Hans Berger. exImpact, I feel for you. My Landmark encounter definitely shook things up in my life as well. For a while I was mad at myself for what was going on with me. Then after reading post
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Even without the religious cult attributes, the LGAT format is HIGHLY dangerous on it's own. I know that personally, the Quest and Summit trainings were directly responsible for almost all of the damage my life has undergone since I decided to "trust" Hans Berger. The TIT-LDS cult is an added layer of madness to an already corrupt system of control and manipulation, not to
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Quotedazedandconfused...I have to admit though anytime anything comes up about the bible or religion my eyes gloss over and I shut down... I've got that too...
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QuoteImpactedEx, Actually I thought the Billboards were brilliant. Not designed to attract new participants, but to reactivate old grads who otherwise might have gone to one of the split-off-from-Impact or other companies right here in Salt Lake City...Anyway, the Billboards were terrific at hiding all that history . . . well almost hiding it. Even a 14 by 48-foot billboard isn't qu
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Wow...Sorry Dazed.
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from another board: QuoteezdoesitThe best advertisements against Landmark are Landmarkers themselves. EZ LOL, I think the same thing every time I drive by a billboard put up by Impact in Salt Lake City. You see a psycho smiling face with the slogan, "What if EVERYTHING were possible?" Or a bunch of cartoon characters holding hands in a circle with the caption, &quo
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QuoteezdoesitThe best advertisements against Landmark are Landmarkers themselves. EZ LOL, I think the same thing every time I drive by a billboard put up by Impact in Salt Lake City. You see a psycho smiling face with the slogan, "What if EVERYTHING were possible?" Or a bunch of cartoon characters holding hands in a circle with the caption, "Remember?"
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I think it's a great idea, especially if it is well organized from the get-go. I still have all of my TIT 1-3 manuals 8)
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It is my opinion that the vast majority of the trainers/office staff who have left recently do not have the wherewithal, the resources or the initiative to begin new trainings. I think they may be feeling quite screwed, upset, angry or in a funk of LGAT fueled, circular rationalization. The only person I knew of that I thought might be capable of something was Doug Moore, a former TIT3 staff
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DOOMED! :twisted:
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QuotePassionateTeri smart is no longer with Impact. Neither is Shannon Wooley. Jim Condie is gone too. I dont have any idea why, but the continued exodus of office staff and trainers seems dubious. I'm shocked. Wow. Not about Shannon (it is Woody, not Wooley), but Condie was their business trainer (he put up the videos on YouTube) and Terri was... the epitome of a psycho-grad. Feel kind
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QuoteImpactedEx, >>Impact stays in SLC because the marks are easier targets here. No other reason. << I think you've got it. That and, I suspect, the legal systems in California or Colorado, for example, present a greater risk to them than those in Utah. Why do you think they've not found a larger training center, one that could handle 200+ in Q
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QuoteImpacted ...Listening to their degrading remarks about each other. (Ever hear Sally rip into Hans? or Hans share his disgust at being "married" to her? or their mutual distain for Pamela, Ward or others?) ... I heard such things, but dismissed them as playful. I was under the influence you see, and believed what they believed. It is ok to be hard, cold and ruthle
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Well, I have called them a religion, but I have also dubbed them a cult. They are a cult, and I think you answered your own question: QuoteImpacted So I think there's a deeper reason why they have chosen to stay only in SLC, but I'm not sure what it is. Maybe someone here has more insight into this. with: QuoteImpacted But what they don't share very openly is that the
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Quotequestion ladyThanks for the clarification ex. I'm glad I asked because now I understand more about how it's done. Twisted Twisted Twisted. and Perverted.
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It is my opinion Sane Again's anger is fully justified. I suggest you find a way to deal with it. I also suggest that you find a way to accept that some of what you share in these forums is not universally held and there are some views that you have that may cause anger in people. Sane Again is one of the few people on these boards that continues to contribute content of real value, in my op
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dazed, oh, yeah, I saw that. I used to post when other people would make new topics, but this one is busy enough as it is :) Q-Lady, Do not misunderstand me, I may know and you may know Impacts version of LDS doctrine is flawed and incompatible with the doctrine of the church. But there is just enough similarity that the unaware get hooked by the "Not only is it just like your r
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Quotequestion lady So if you wanted to molest a kid and didn't do it, you would be breaking you agreement to "teach' this person. So you would actually be doing the kid a favor by molesting them. This is beyond sick. Yeah, I don't really have a word for it. It's not an exaggeration either, if you follow the logic.
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Quotedazedandconfusedthere is another message thread started on religious cults and sects True, but this is the Impact thread, and if we are talking about Impact, we aren't going off topic, regardless if religion gets in the mix or not (is that what you are wondering dazed?). I have written before multiple times on this very subject on this board and have never been brought up short becaus
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Q-lady, I disagree. The pre-existance is a very LDS idea (It is probably the most developed and detailed description of the pre-mortal life in Christian existence) and the presentation of the Impact theodicy is calculated. The Bergers were Mormon themselves and many of their children still are, including the Quest coordinator. Most of the trainers and office staff were and are LDS, and those who
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Put this up on the South African Quest thread, but thought I'd post it here too: This effect/reaction stuff is interesting. At Impact the logic went like this: People go through life choosing to be victims: “Everyone did this to me and that is why I am the way I am the way I am and that is how I justify being a horrible person to everyone else on the planet." The Impact fix to
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I'm going to post this on the Impact thread, but I think it is relative to the current topic so I'll post here too. This effect/reaction stuff is interesting. At Impact the logic went like this: People go through life choosing to be victims: “Everyone did this to me and that is why I am the way I am the way I am and that is how I justify being a horrible person to everyone else on th
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Charting the popularity of the thread: 3/24/07-10336 4/02/07-11400 5/17/07-15315 6/21/07-30620 7/14/07-42264 8/27/07-67051 nice...
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This is me waiting to talk with dazedandconfused :) what is on your mind?
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I feel some dissapointment at his decision, but I have been worried about him for awhile. Speaking as one obsessed man on a mission to another you understand. To be honest, I wasn't surprised things went down that way with RS. My suggestion that he take a break from all things LGAT for a few months was not an idle one... I knew he was headed for a burnout, as I have, and he was much mo
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QuoteRswintersExImpact. I am on the team of exposing LGAT's. I am not on the team that views faith and science as seperate. I will call into account the contradiction on this matter that exists on this website. If I am not allowed to remain because of this view. So be it. I just ask for the same standard to be applied to all views. Even are negative analysis of things. Bias
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QuoteRswintersQuoteexImpact[If your opinions are not strong or potent enough to brave this apparent "lack of niceness" tone, it is my opinion that hearing them is not necessary, simply for the fact that, notwithstanding criticism, you don't think they are important enough to be heard or that they cannot withstand scrutiny. So it comes down to either people withhold what the
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QuoteMaxui Having said that I do feel sympathy for SaneAgain and others who have had bad experiences. I propose you feel nothing of the kind. You support a group that uses group-based mental conditioning techniques without the trainees knowledge or consent. You also support a company who produces victims such as Saneagain and many others who exhibit psychotic side-effects and mental disorde
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QuotePassionate....While I support your idea that the very nature of the discussion topic here is contentious, it need not be a personal attack or go so far as to make someone feel stupid or feel that their opinion is not as valuable as anyone else's. The Golden Rule has nothing to do with any of your arguments - its how you go about arguing them, in my opinion, that Damaged may be addressi
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Quotedamagedbyassociation On that note, acknowledging that I'm not moderating this forum, I would like to comment that a lot of communications that are posted here are bickerings about what other members are saying, as if we can't be understanding enough to give another member the benefit of the doubt, or we WANT to be quick to judge them (harshly) which dilutes the power and significan
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