I wanted to post this thread here simply because I think it's relevant to the unique problems that Impact causes: Quotequestion ladyDear ex-impact...I would be most appreciative if you would provide some examples of things your friend did to help empower you to think for yourself again. If you can, it would be great if you would post under a new subject rather than Avatar help so that mor
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Quotequestion ladyDear ex-impact...I would be most appreciative if you would provide some examples of things your friend did to help empower you to think for yourself again. If you can, it would be great if you would post under a new subject rather than Avatar help so that more people will see it. Your contribution to this board really helps my understanding. Thanks so much. You should also look
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Quotequestion ladyto shift the focus from "getting him out of the group" to empowering him to think for himself. Although all the points Q-lady presented here are very good, I think this one especially needs emphasis. This is primarily what a friend did for me that helped me get out of the group I was deeply involved with
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QuoteformerimpactgradThe problem with his assertion was that the verdict in the older case was that the criminal was not allowed to serve concurrent sentences. As a result the precedent set in the document provided even more of a reason to make him serve the sentences back to back. It was pure comedy! I think Robert Paisola is like an immoral/evil Forrest Gump! Ah, yes. The invincible clarity
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmexImpact, interesting list. Could you be more specific? QuoteMadshusYo exImpact... you feeling alright? :wink: :shock: I'm OK. Really. It's just another new-age piece of crapola to pile on the huge heap of things these groups twist and turn to propagandize, justify and verify their insane ideas. Impact however has claimed to be directly responsible for every good t
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I hear this movie has become the next whore...se people in the Impact Trainings in Bluffdale UT are riding. It now joins such illustrious company as John Denver, The Buddha, WWII, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, Archangel Michael, Quantum Theory ala What the Bleep, Mormonism, Indigo Children, The Matrix, Streisand, Sacred Geometry, Werner Von Brown, Mary Magdalene, Mount Shasta CA, Man of La Mancha,
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All Hail Xenu and his glorious regime!
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Word, formerimp-G, word. I concur. Additionally, addison_guy, I would like to emphasize what was said about your wife waiting 3 months or so to go through Summit if she is still hell bent on it. The main con they run to keep people in is that their group is now literally their family. They even coach staff members who did not go through their whole trainings with their families to commit a lie of
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A few good vocab giveaway examples are using words like "assist" to replace "help" and "working or not-working" as opposed to "right or wrong". Also, emphasis and fequent vocalizations about honesty, integrity and LOVE especially. I seem to have LGAT-radar when it comes to this language conditioning thing, and it has led me to find LGAT grads where I would
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QuotejtaylormadeI did not take the impact training in Utah but I did complete 2 levels of an LGAT that is a carbon copy or vice versa...Accelerate Trainings in Concord Ca. formerly called IImpact with 2 I's. Owned by John Hanley Sr. himself the creator of Lifespring. From all I have read on this site and others these two seem almost like mirrors much more so than Landmark. But all Lgats
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QuotejtaylormadeQuoteRaCeR---XJust a quick question, What is the symbol and sign of of a hand holding up four of its five fingers?? What does it mean, represent, etc?? it means a great big love bomb hug. On the second to last day of training you fo the hug circle.....two concentric cricles people facing eachother....you vote on the amount of contact you want with the person across from you
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QuoteRaCeR---XJust a quick question, What is the symbol and sign of of a hand holding up four of its five fingers?? What does it mean, represent, etc?? There is a process in the Quest training where the trainees and the staff circle up in a double circle resembling an O inside an O shape. They face each other and are instructed to acknowledge each other in one of four ways. They signify how the
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The information on these pages that Rick Ross has provided could almost be directly written for Impact. If you're curious as to what you'll go through and experience in Quest at the Impact Trainings in Bluffdale, UT following this link: The order of the processes listed in the link is not exactly the same as those in the Quest training, but the general outline and purpose or emp
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Quote="don'tloveimpact"How can I tell if I'm still damaged. I really don't think I am. But I'm open to anything you have to offer that would give me clues. (I think it was because I wasn't so harsh in the beginning and that I admited that I learned a thing or two...but hey...so did you!! To quote you..."I can say I have had some little long-term benefit
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I concur with Madshus about everything on his last post. Not that he needs my validation, but hey, when you're right, you're right. Right? (Mad, if you are a her, I'm sorry for the lingual bias. As for what I am, I wont tell :) )
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Quote="don'tloveimpact"I went through the whole training this year. And I really did get a lot out of it. I will say this though....I went in as a fairly stable person, unlike most of my group. I felt empowered by the whole thing. I was able to confront my weak areas and really step up in my life. Overall, I don't think it was evil. Well...I'm confused too. I can
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QuoteMadshusexImpact... what are your thoughts as to why we don't hear more about Impact Trainings in the local media, from others in general, etc? I think the people who leave the training early on just think its crap and move on with their lives. Those who stay are conditioned to think that any problems that ensue are of their own doing and don't hold Impact accountable. Its a very in
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QuotecccoveguyQuoteexImpactUnfortunately ... it is the ignorant, unsteady, undereducated and unfortunately middle to lowerclass people who fill most the seats... and dare I say it... "mostly white"? That's my experience, any way... yes. Mostly white...mostly. :)
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cccoveguy, Ah, I see. I wasn't sure what you meant by irrelevant. If you were just applying it to my whole reply or to the quoted one. Yeah, my comment was an irrelevant jab, one I apologized for. And unfortunately the plethora of resources humankind has to turn to for help do not always pan out. I will say my education and a few years of therapy has turned me around. I think I am quite hea
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QuoteSkeptic_XHere is something that I have been thinking about, and it is only a simple question and I am not trying to bait anyone, I just would like to know... Most "cults" are set up in order to benefit the "leader" and not the followers. The leader at the top gets all the money, power, glory, and in some cases sex, that he or she wants. The purpose of the group is to
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I apologize if my opinions seem to be attacking your own. This subject does tend to rile me up. I want you to know Skeptic_X that no matter what I may say, how much I disagree; I still value your opinion as much as anyone else’s, including my own. Opinions are just a point of view, and it is impossible to escape bias of any kind in them. I don't take it personal when someone disagrees with m
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Quotecccoveguy QuoteWhen I finally stopped looking only at the good... How did you do that - stop looking? What caused you to stop? How did you realize you had been only been looking at good? QuoteWhen I finally stopped looking only at the good and seeing the bad as good...As a whole, this sentence makes no sense. Pardon me, but wtf does it mean? If you saw good as good and bad as good
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QuoteSkeptic_X It seems like people only want to hear the bad side and nothing else. This is a common apologetic argument expressed by those who are seeking to defend a position who are not able to effectively do so. People who are untrained in theology or philosophy who try to argue with those who are, generally reduce themselves to this statement. I'm not saying we are discussing philosoph
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I thought anyone who has had problems because of Impact ought to read this thread: With some variation, this could be one of any number of Impact graduates I have known. I have known people in WORSE situations. It scares me somethimes when I think that it could have been me. Thank God I listened to my friends and family (eventually).
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Jeri442, I can't count the number of people I know who have had similar problems as you that have participated in the Impact Trainings in Bluffdale, Utah. Myself included. You have my empathy.
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QuoteformerimpactgradI thought I would post a list of claims that Hans Berger made about himself in various trainings over the few years that I was involved in the Impact Trainings: 1. Hans claimed that he and other Trainer and Training 3 graduates were responsible for stopping wild fires outside of Show Low, Arizona in 2002. He claimed that this was done using TIT3 tools that placed a spiritu
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markymark1341, I'm truly sorry to hear it. If she is in Lift Off, she has taken Quest and Summit, which are the primary mental conditioning seminars. I can tell you almost exactly what she has gone through up to this point, including processes day-by-day and the initial initiation(s) into the religious cult that is the heart of the training she has (unknowingly) entered. It is evil my frie
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I can only say that at minimum, posting what I had witnessed for 5+ years under the Impact Trainings flag in Utah has been therapeutic at least. At most, the Impact viewings were going up 100+ a day spreading awareness that was heretofore unavailable. It's been an honor.
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markymark1341, You should look at the other Impact threads I have contributed to. If she is in Lift Off, she has taken Quest and Summit, which are the primary mental conditioning seminars. I can tell you almost exactly what she has gone through up to this point, including processes day-by-day and the initial initiation into the religious cult that is the heart of the training she has (unknowingl
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I will ask another thread and see what I can find. You've piqued my interest.
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