Personally, I love the spell like an idiot thing. A real button pusher. My guess is Co$ or the squirrel LEC. It translates to "i'm here to piss you off and because you're inferior (not clear/managing the existence of yourself) you'll get pissed off".
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Jack, You're naive...there I said it. Are you happy now? Welcome to the land of the naive! You're home now. You're one of us. Oh Jack... It's not about disagreeing or agreeing. I could give a fart if you agree with me or not. Really. You don't know your a** from a hole in the ground and you don't know you don't know. You just opine. You'l
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Jack, Yes.
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Jack, No mindreading going on here. How can you be tired of something that can not occur? I've told you it's about the numbers. You said "? I don't believe it's about the money." Numbers=money. Simple. Do I need to say it again? The specifics have been stated over ad nauseum. Read posts over at alt.fan.landmark over the years. It doesn't matt
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Jack Your posts allude to some benign or harmless quality that LEC might have. The only usefullness that might have would be to Harry and Joan's retirement fund. "So much the better". But you know better than I do since you "did the Forum in spite of ...concerns." and "...It's gotten me into trouble now and then, but my instincts are generally pretty
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Jack, How do I say it more plainly to you. It's all about the numbers. I know you don't want to hear that. Sincerety is not the issue. People can be sincere about all kinds of misdirected pursuits. I was sincere when I was there. I thought it was about service too. Then I learned differently. How do you think it felt finding out what was going on there? We could get
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Concerned Oz, It sounds like she's hit the downhill side already. Hang in there with her. She'll be experiencing a lot of up and down emotions after exiting. Guy
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Michelle, I'm going to change some of your words in your request and I'd like you to hear how it sounds. Hello everyone! I am doing a human sexuality project for class at UC Berkeley and I am extremely interested in the procedure that was used to get your panties off during the rape that you were/are involved in. What did the rapists have you do or say in terms of instilling fea
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So it's about "belonging" for you. "Mainly I like being in a community of people..." Easy to understand with the kind of alienation many feel in society. It's a common hook for cults to use. Like I said before, if you want the real thing, go out into your real community, your neighborhood, meet them, know them, interact with them. Feel joy and pain over s
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Excellent links Corboy. The opsgreen gets a little "agenda-ish", but it's tech info is good.
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Oh please don't go Wolfy... Save me from these horrible evil cynical and resigned miscreants that think that the darlings of Landmark would want anything but the worlds and mine best interests at heart... It's horrible how Werner was made to suffer exile from his homeland just for his "creation's" sake. He is suffering for you and me down on that horrible island cov
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"One of the Landmark hooks for me is that I find their artfulness fascinating." BOING!!! That's like a fish with a fascination for fishermen and their techniques. You're not going to get the real experience of camaraderie, contribution and challenge through LEC. Only a facade that will keep you coming back for more. If you involve yourself in your real community, i
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It's all about the numbers. Always has been and always will be. It's a business and whatever it takes to fill those seats is fair game. When you're selling nothing for something anything goes. All that inspirational mumbo jumbo and sheer naked brilliance...piercing through... cynicism is just noise to get more paying customers. We didn't change anything about the core bus
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Goatbox, Make sure you tie something to the outside world to pull you out with...:p Keep us informed, brave one.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

This thread is a little weird. You don't have to make up extraneous connections to get across that what LEC and other organizations do is use hypnosis and other mind control techniques to garner and maintain recruits. If you think wagging the "satanic" finger gives your argument credibility, then you're standing on weak ground. There isn't a church standing that has
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Wolfy darling, When you say: "As far as I'm aware, I am one of the few posters here who's actually completed the Curriculum for Living. I find it amusing - ..." You're not taking into account that some of us were actually paid to mess with your head and others'. I don't guess about what we did. I don't conjecture about it. I know what we did.
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Michelle, Corboy just posted the URL for that page by Dick Sutphen. Here it is: ctyme.com/bwash/bwash.htm A good easy read and placew to start. Guy
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Hope, I'm sending this URL because I think it applies not just to you but maybe me and others too. For those of us that have been through the ropes with this will see a corollary. Some of the "experts" don't really understand what happened to us. No clue to the dynamics. Some have theories they are trying to uphold or they get their egos attached to their position
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Michelle, Invite Richard Ofshe to come and chat with us. My guess is that he'll decline. Guy
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Michelle, Thank you for the apology. Your being misunderstood comes from you not being forthcoming in your intentions. When you don't say what you are going to do with the information, it leaves it up to us to surmise your intentions. You are not the first person in my history to say "I'm doing a school project, can you tell me about...". Our voices are heard and we a
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Michelle, Your innocence of the subject and the sensitivities of those that have been through these horrific events is apparent. We are not "degree" fodder. I certainly am not interested in being part of your "project". There are plenty of other sources you can find all the sordid details of who did what to whom and how they did it. As far what I write here or other
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thanks for the post Elisita, I checked out the site. It looks like an attempt at mooshing est/LEC into a new age model. Looks slimey, creepy to me. I'd get out while you can with minimal damage. Guy
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Penbonbon: Gc4062 has intimated(unintentionally, I think) that there are good forum leaders and bad forum leaders or that some are "better". They're all perpetrators. Some are slicker than others. They use hypnosis and other mind control techniques to hold your attention for three days. They use whatever works on various personality types. When a forum leader says "this
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To Sunsetserene, Thank you for reading my posts elsewhere. I've elaborated, as best I could at the time, about what takes place at LEC. You can send me a private message through this board if you wish. To GC4062, Keep yelling. The more of us that speak out, the warmer it will get in here and other places. I hope more join in. Thanks for speaking out To Normal Guy, We had a policy of
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We targeted many VIPs for special treatment. Anyone having a voice of authority might get a private audience with the FL. We used their authority bring in new recruits. I'd report your doctor to the AMA board. His behaviour is unethical.
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You are right on the money about relationships around LEC. There were more orgies in the old days though. The only thing I would say is inaccurate is:"She apparently assigned a great deal of meaning to the conversation on choice." You say that as if she had some choice in the matter. Her cognitive abilities had become disassociated in the area of ethics and morals. We did that t
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Corboy, When do replies show up here on the page?
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Hope, I've heard it called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Don't get sucked into nonsense monologues delivered by LEC grads or plants. You'll notice that their spewage is redirection or misdirection. The fact is you and others are hypnotized without your knowledge or permission. Anchors were planted and levers used on you. You will notice some of them in their rants.
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:D the one...the only
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I really love Wolfy's posts. So clean, so clear. Well crafted. I wonder if he was one of my mine? He 's the perfect LEC grad. What do you think Elena? Is it safe?
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