Jack, I've been pointing to something fundamental to the thread here and all you can hear is a personal discussion. Notice that. You looked at "wouldn't dare to ask" and "grand permission" and you saw the paradox. It's not about you, Jack. It's not about quoting Whitman. Or being right, on or off the hook or naive. It's about what has
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Jack, Hammer away, buddy. :D We're waiting..... :o QuoteJackSF You ask, what's my point? As I've said more than once, Landmark doesn't like to be called a cult, yet they are vulnerable on this point. They have worked very hard, primarily through lawsuits, to avoid this. My suggestion to people on this board is that they continue to hammer on the cult issue, but
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I never confused you for one moment Jack. Your posts are well thought out. I really enjoy the paths you take. QuoteJackSF > <snip> You confused me for a bit ... <snip> You don't know me or the way I think. Actually, Jack, I might know you.:eek: I may even be working in the center where you are. :cool: And if you know your tech well enough
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Here's a lovely little item for perusal from: What is Thought Reform? When defining thought reform, we look to two experts in the field: Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph.D. and Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.: Six Conditions for Thought Reform Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D. 1. Keep the person unaware of what is going on and how she or he is being changed a step at a time. Potential ne
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Jack, :rolleyes: I love you. You really are adorable. How long you gonna play your game? Guy
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:rolleyes: That was clever. I love that combining of the name and the burning down part. You should write for political campaigns. Nicely done, that is and then adding how angelic you were. Magnificent! Especially the golden rule. "Applause" Please more.... Wait, I gotta get my hipboots on. ;)
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Really. I'd like some cult apologists to respond to this question. If you're not, don't post. If you want to conjecture why they do, start a thread called "why I think they post". Come on..... Be brave.
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Excellent link for the LEC experience. Guy
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I've started this thread for links for sites about LEC. This way anybody searching doesn't have to go through all the posts for goodies. Something for everybody!!! Here's some for starters: Post away posters!!!
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You're kidding, right? Come on, Jack. I love this part: (I'm not even sure this thread wil get past the moderator.) If Rick didn't censor Rude Dawg, what makes even say that except for spin value? What part of what GC4062 and I have been telling you, do you resist most? Geez.....:rolleyes: Guy
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Thanks for sharing!:D Wow, you went in slumped over, uncomfortable with people, nervous, and introverted and came out "comfortable with people, relaxed and outgoing, that I was trying new things and even my posture changed to a more upright bearing." That's awesome! That stuff's not even in the brochure. I must be all wrong then. GC4062....go home apostate! What w
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Welcome Auto, No pardon needed. "Works brilliantly with educated people, which appears to be the target audience." Right on the money. Many people think it's about the "weak and helpless". The "weak and helpless" don't bring in more recruits. They can be cashflow but they'll never get more people to come in. The focus is on the "stro
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Kevin Trudeau is a prime example. This one, I think, was actually sentenced for fraud and he still keeps ticking.
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LoriS, It's not so hard to fathom when you realize that you are just an object to these people. You don't really exist. One of the underlying principles is that the outside universe is just an abstract, an extension. It is all a manifestation of you. "who are they that you are?" "who are you that they are?" and "There's nobody "out&
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LoriS, At LEC it would be: "Who are you managing the existence of yourself that rape would show up in your life?" Simpler: "You are the clearing for rape." :eek:
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I'm sorry Jack. :( I just can't help but notice the discrepencies.....(the quotes are yours below, Jack) "I do remember that I found est/Landmark upsetting for quite some time after I left. Five years later at the invitation of an acquaintance who was an Introduction Leader, my girlfriend and I attended an Introduction. I was trembling most of the time and wouldn't dar
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Dutch, You'll have to do the research on your own in Europe. This is just grapevine stuff to me. The Germans handled Scientology as far as I know. Other means??? Guy
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Advertisers, Real Estate Agents, Politicians, all loved our courses. Cons one and all.
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Dutch, I vaguely remember someone in Holland speaking out about LEC years ago. I think he was in the mental health care profession. I don't know if it ever gets out of your mind. It hasn't left mine and it's been years. Contact a government agency that regulates health in your country and alert them. There are efforts in Sweden and Denmark to get them ousted. Guy
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Oh Jack, Originally posted by JackSF "Nonetheless, I'm not interested in being addressed directly about my psychology or my naivete or my deludedness or whatever. " Oh really? Do you remeber this? "Guy -- Call me naive, but I have the idea..." You are adding the "psychology", "deludedness" or "whatever" to the thread. You a
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Jack, LEC 2020 events were the fastest room inductions I ever saw. They ready to start goose stepping as soon as Steve hit the stage. I think he was a little unnerved by it. It was appaling to think we sold tickets to the event. Everyone was told it was to be a conversation to determine the future of LEC. Everyone thought they were going to be part of the process. Good pr. Everyth
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The meme of "responsibilty" is used to get you to "acountable"/at fault for your illness. That's why he used the "common denominator" theme. The dissonance comes in when he states that "people have very little control over their lives". "No control/yet responsible". ZORK!!!! Only "sourcing" gives control. Source is Jack/Werner.
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Jack, Thanks for the "could be". I think that's a close to "making me right" as I'll get with you, huh? Seriously folks...the rest of your post is a gem. Everyone reading should take note of his perceptions here. In LEC it looks all cozy community like but when someone yells fire, it's every rat for himself. No depth. Just shells. It's hilarious t
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"I got so focused on doing the work that my career suffered... to the point that I eventually the only option open to me was to go on staff..." Read that again... "I got so focused on doing the work that my career suffered... to the point that I eventually the only option open to me was to go on staff..." Again... "I got so focused on doing the work that my c
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Both "are you making him wrong?" and "is there anything you need to say to be complete about ..." are silencers. They both bend you over for the reaming.
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I have to reread everything too. The memes are screaming so loud that I can't remember what I was thinking or writing for very long. It's hard for me to read Corboy's posts because of that. Too long for me to retain the thoughts.
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"who are you managing the existence of yourself as?" This was always a favorite, pull them over the table and poke them where it's dark, line to mess with the head. From there you could get dragged in any number of directions from incompetence to criminality. One of my personal favorite opening lines for mental and emotional torture.
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To GC4062, I haven't gotten their shit out of my head yet. Sorry, I wish I could tell you differently. It makes me want to blow my head off. Some days are spent wrestling the voices I here internally from the programming. This shit has ruined countless friendships, relationships with family and my career. My reputation is forever smeared with their filth. I wish I could say I was more po
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GC4062 is not joking. If anything he is being "nice". "...expect to be processed severely by your centre manager and/or regional manager (some compare the experience to being accused of serial murder and getting a certain treatment to extract a confession)... by the time you are finished with, you're begging forgiveness for being a bad and horrible human being for not prod
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good job of distracting the post too
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