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17 years ago
skeptic
You're welcome. YES! The lgat way is to berate oneself for being human. I had a long discussion with someone who'd been involved in a different cult, and we realized that non-compassion is what we were taught. And non-compassion (& disconnection) toward self is also non-compassion & disconnection toward others. In my lgat days I was arrogant (I mistakenly t
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17 years ago
skeptic
Hi Q Lady, I have no ideas. Just writing to commiserate and report that, while I was still attempting a relationship with my sister, I failed to find a way to deal with her arrogance. I, too, have a problem with arrogance. No doubt there is a 'release' trick in every lgat. The lgat that conned me used the 'reframe' trick. It took me awhile, but I started to see that
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteEtopia Anyway, I'm going to move on and post in the Abe-Hicks forum where I'm appreciated. I sincerely wish you all the best on your journeys. Cean :wink: He's off to see the Wizard, the Wonderful Wizard of Oz. QL, I love your questions!!!!
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17 years ago
skeptic
Re magical thinking and it's epidemic proportions, I think it's one sign that an awful lot of people simply don't grow up, they don't mature psychologically. Magical/omnipotent thinking is a child's way and is a child's way of coping with difficulty. Are psychologically mature adults attracted to that kind of stuff, as a system for either living or for coping with
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17 years ago
skeptic
Connie - I know that song very well (and now I know how to spell it :) ) and your lyrics fit perfectly. I didn't just read them, I sang them! It's so well written, I'd like to see it recorded actually! Humor's a great way to expose the scams & shams. skeptic
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17 years ago
skeptic
Cosmic Connie! I LOOOOOOOOOOVE YOUR SONG!!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!! skeptic!
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteMercurialMereAfter that whole experience, it would be very hard for me to trust another therapist entirely. Same here. I have made several attempts at therapy to get past the cult experience. One of the attempts (re-evaluation counseling) I now learn derives from scientology. Two other group therapists talk/ed (one current, one past) the new-age stuff, e.g. energy flows where attention
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteGulab JamonWhat really got my goat was when one of our members posted on our email list about a horrible tragedy that had just befallen her family. All of us posted our condolences and best wishes to her, but this Abraham-Hicks follower simply unsubscribed from our email list! I guess the "negativity" made her run away, instead of offering her sympathies like a normal, compassiona
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult We need a Nobel prize winning quantum physicist to write a simple book showing that these bogus quantum physics New Age people are all frauds, liars, and cranks. They are literally all full of it. Refutations are badly needed!!!!!!!!!! Where are the voices of reason in this crazy time? This crazy thinking is spreading like cancer. Maybe voices of reason can't be
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17 years ago
skeptic
Anticult, thanks for finding & posting the columns. I love the Sacramento Bee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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17 years ago
skeptic
However, on Contextassociated.com, Randy appears to still be alive.
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17 years ago
skeptic
Finally, Randy's death hit the webpage. I note that nowhere in his expertise/background is there anything related to the field of human psychology. And interestingly, his involvement with Lifespring is also omitted. Hmmmm, wonder why. RANDY REVELLĀ  Founder of Context Associated Randy Revell passed away on July 10, 2004. The principles, concepts, and foundations of Context As
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17 years ago
skeptic
Yeh, well, when one is in the trance, one does not know it. Obi's testimony sounds suspiciously like someone who is entranced. The lgat connections of Hoffman are much more convincing to me!
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult Why doesn't he use the Miracle Secret to lose 100 lbs before he Attracts a heart attack? Ha ha ha, very funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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17 years ago
skeptic
Hope, that might be a good thing to ask the Secret groupies. Why are they standing idly by and allowing stuff like 9/11 to happen? What about all the POWER they possess? They are obviously to BLAME for all the world's problems. Can't they do a better job? What, are they all talk, no action? Let's see some RESULTS!!!!!!!!! TALK IS CHEAP!!!!!!!!!
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17 years ago
skeptic
The show was just the typical prepackaged new agey "philosophy", with all the standard jargon and cliches. There isn't anything new about The Secret, it's all the same crap I tried to follow for a buncha years. It was nauseating listening to it. Where it falls short of lgat, I think, is that people aren't going through the "experiences" that lgats orchestra
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17 years ago
skeptic
Quotequestion ladyThanks for posting the link Anticult. QuoteThe AnticultWow, look at the 'teachers' (cons) The Secret people are referring us to! I see that "The Sedona Method" guy, Hale Dwoskin, is there. My husband got sucked into the other strain of the Lester Levinson following called "The Release Technique" marketed by Larry Crane. But I do have to
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17 years ago
skeptic
I thought Oprah was on at 3PM so I tuned in because I want to see it. Something different is on at 3, and guess what one segment will be about? You guessed it! John Gray, a Secret "teacher", will be talking about the law of attraction. Maybe Oprah's on at 4. I'll stay tuned
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteJack Oskar Larm But, more importantly, this wacky mindf*ck stuff is about hiding from one's vulnerabilities. In a culture of WIN, WIN, WIN, it can be very painful to have to accept LOSE ... perhaps, a bit like being afraid of the dark. Yes! Fear of one's own vulnerability; fear of one's SELF, in other words. Dangerous stuff. The antithesis of psychotherapy, growth and
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17 years ago
skeptic
Quotequestion ladyElena - I can understand your skepticism about regulating some of these guys. It probably would be an uphill battle. But uphill battles have never stopped me. Does anyone know if there have been any attempts anywhere to impose some sort of regulation? Regarding attempting some kind of regulations, I've had the thought that, not only are LGATs "practicing psychology
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult There are just a tiny minority of people fighting against this, and this is one of those sites. Thank goodness for that. Tiny VOCAL minority is important. Yes, thank goodness for this site.
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteON2 LFI'm going to write a book one day, it will be called "102 different ways to DELAY gratification, and LIKE IT!" It will be found in the not-yet-invented section of 'anti-self help' sections in book stores. Your book and the section it will go in are needed NOW. I did a quick check of my neighborhood bookstore self-help section (to see if The Secret is t
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17 years ago
skeptic
An acquaintance who recently thanked me for dissuading her from attending Landmine Forum (she's being pressured to go), today mentioned that she has The Secret DVD and has watched it many times. She said she agrees with it (yet she struggles with many things in her life). I don't understand why believers struggle with anything when there is a quick and simple solution that will end
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17 years ago
skeptic
Thanks, Anticult, for posting another great review. It's good to know that at least a few people can spot a scam, even if most seem unable to. There's something so seductive about magical thinking......SIGH! It's really disconcerting, though, when followers fail to take note that IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!! Now, that's scary! Then again, they can always fall back on the handy t
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult 90% of people don't read the books anyway...how many books did we buy that we never read? Lots! Haha! Very true, good point!!! And sometimes you get picked out at the airport even though you were doing nothing to "attract" it and were feeling in a good mood. That's just life, and things actually do happen outside of my control (that's another
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17 years ago
skeptic
Anticult, thank you for posting the antisecret columns. They are excellent and I'm going to pass them on to my friend who implied, after watching Oprah, that I had attracted, with my negative thinking, harrassment at the airport. Thing is, I was feeling really good that day. "I attract to me that which occurs" (as I was taught in CONtext Ass.) makes the whole world all about
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17 years ago
skeptic
People are obviously desperate to escape the human condition and the scam artists are masterful at packaging and promoting what appears to be the key to paradise, where life is problem-free and you get to design reality as you wish. The rude awakening is when you find it DOESN'T WORK! Because it's doomed from the start. It really is a mindf*ck! It is the antithesis of living with tw
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteVigilantwhatever happened to critical thinking? this stuff has infected my wife, wiped out QL's marriage and led more than a few down a dark road. we need our psychologists to expose this for the brainwashing that it is! The scary part is that psychologists fall for this shit!!!!!!!!
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17 years ago
skeptic
QuoteThe Anticult It really is the supreme mindf*ck, and it has a built in defense mechanism, that if you doubt it, that very doubt causes it to not work. So you are locked in. I agree, it's evil and the supreme mindf*ck. Even if you don't doubt the belief system, even if you use it with full belief, life will have its way with you, because that's just how life is. How do
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17 years ago
skeptic
LOL!!!!!!!!!! question lady!!!!!!!!!!! I hear ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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