To bring in a BRILLIANT move from "Oh God!" the movie, I think that perhaps ancient hebrew or sanscrit(sp?) should be used to write specific questions for The Lord god(small "g") Timothy to answer when he "channels" his 'god'. Maybe even latin, spanish, french and arabic. Chinese? Okay with me! If Timothy has no idea what they say, then he is a fra
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Hi, frogla, first, thanks for the posting of this entire letter...WOW... As I can understand it, here is Timothy's own words for when "The Rapture" et al, is: Question: Is 2011 the beginning of the Tribulation Period? Answer: Yes. After I heard God’s voice for the first time, over three years ago, I prayed fervently, asking when will this tribulation period begin. The Lor
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Open questions to the loyal believers in The Prophet Timothy: What will you do if your Prophet's 2011 date for "The Rapture" comes and goes and you have not been "Raptured"? Clearly, you are doing everything 100% correct and loyal to Timothy and to Jesus/God/???. Why are you left behind? Is Timothy and his wife still among you? If so...Why? What happens if 2018
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QuoteFreeYoMindwhat i found most confusing (besides a lot of laws like avoiding certain food, praying 3 times a day...) was this: "------You are My prophet, My student, My apostle. You shall become much more...yea, a “god” among men, for I shall share of Myself with you. I will live in you like none before. As in the days of Elisha, who asked of God double, even so shall My witnesses have
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Here is another verbatim quote of The Prophet Timothy (so I don't misquote him). Note he goes into great detail about the exact dates of the realization of the Book of Revelation: Question: Is 2008 the beginning of the Tribulation Period? Answer: No. Rather 2008 begins the last “ten days (years)” of trouble, as described in Revelation 2:10.The signs of the fulfillment of these “ten d
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Here is something I picked up from Trumpet Call of God's website that deserves wider attention. In this, Timothy claims that Jesus/God/??? told him that the end time is near. If I read the following correctly, Timothy is predicting "The Rapture" to take place sometime in 2011. End-time churches are frightening thing. They bring to mind the Heaven's Gate cult suicides/s
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Here is frogla's husbands website: Timothy (Self-proclaimed Prophet of Trumpet Call of God) makes the claim that he IS and IS NOT adding to the Bible. He makes many references that no one may change the scripture. Then he spins it and quotes the prophets from the Torah, etc. laying their ancient claim to prophecy and therefore "Speaking directly for Jesus/God/???" and th
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Stuart Willde? Is this THIS no-talent ass-clown? This is clearly (from a causual reading at this point,) a NEW AGEY kind of crap-fest. I am sorry your family is being mentally (and nutritionally) abused by following this nonsense. Hopefully your posting here will attract a disgruntled member searching the web.
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frogla, I am pleased to hear about your observations of your husband recently where you claim he appears to want normalcy after bring subjected to the clear-cut lunacy of the false prophet "Lil' Timmy". (I forget, did I dub him that or his therapist at the last psychiatric hospital he was court-ordered commited to?). I joke a bit about that last part but am sincere in my belief
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QuotegabrielmtHi, My brother first contact with deteni was two years ago. In the beggining I thought desteni was not a threat, they talked about bizzarre things but, as stated at the beginning of this thread, looked serious. I started to worry about it when the SRA's 3500€ course started, and more when my brother received a 3000€ student grant from the government some weeks ago. I real
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doubtful, sorry to report that many groups have sued Rick Ross Institute to stop what he does for us all. Thankfully, almost all have failed. Here is one of the hard-fighting loser LGAT's: Here is the latest in this moron's losing streak (read and you will see Ross Institute mentioned): Earlier, you can read more of this failed moron here: One of my favorites is t
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Re-reading this thread, I think the most important thing here is that "Speed Timothy Rathbun" (aka by me, 'Lil' Timmy') is making families break apart while his fleeced flock (aka his followers) waste their precious life holding onto the false "Dream Visions" of this mentally confused lunatic. I see nothing remotely Christian here...but I see plenty of cult
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Quotesingingcowboy674 Speaking for myself, I have a strong layman's knowledge of scripture and I have Christ inside my heart. And it is by the latter first and the first second that I gauge whether or not this man is a man of God and if he is hearing the voice of the All Mighty as he claims. In my study, I find his writings in complete harmony with the gospels though they are none exact in
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Sarcasm, OEWM. Sarcasm. I am sure Emily Fitchpatrick doesn't want to physically hurt women...only, perhaps, their wallets. Also in answer to this: please remove From: OEWM To: Sparky Date: 07/25/2010 03:02PM Please remove the quote you have about Emily Fitchpatrick. It is mean, and needs to be removed. 1) I have no moderation abilities here to remove a post even if
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I agree, cyclops. I think maybe a lot of chanting "Nikken Out!" (or whoever when the time comes) and possibly eventual reabsorption into the temple with a whimper.
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QuoteRothauswho was DSM? dsm was seemingly a disruptive presence on many threads. I found dsm's posts (as he/she got further along into posting) to be over the top and at times frightening and was concerned about answering them or voicing my opinion as dsm was very combative and almost paranoid in accusing some members of using multiple monikers on this site, which you know is grounds for
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Hi, Morgaine. Let me quote your last post on this thread: @ David M Hi , I don't know about where others practice, but the last presentation I went to (and that was the last meeting ), a young lady read from Dr. Seuss and connected the various topics to Nichiren Buddhism, it was bizarre. The chapter study later that month consisted of the study leader person only reading from the l
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tsukimoto , thank you for being a great active poster on this thead. Your 20-year experience with SGI is incredibly valuable to all of us. I think it is terrific that so many people who have been loyal members of SGI and have since "awakened" and re-thought their experiences have chimed in here. We need to let other SGI folks understand that we are here to help them transit to a se
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Nichijew, interesting posting. I was always concerned about the fact that a Buddhist leader would need machine-gun armed guards as bodyguards. Buddhists are supposed to be THE most peaceful and noble group out there. If you are the leader of Buddhist group, shouldn't your faith preclude this sort of thing? I mean, if you don't believe in the shit you are selling to the masses
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Thanks, Nichijew for that posting. This just goes to the root of the problem with this sect...$$$$$$$$$. This is the first I've seen your posting of this experience so I don't know if it was from here or not (I haven't searched for it 'locally'). I am happy this is a good place for you all to share your experiences and to vent. I hope this venting will be good karma
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evergreen, First I am sorry about your bumpy ride to "recovery". Like any recovery it will get smoother and easier with time...hang in there. I know everyone here wants the best for you ASAP. You are right to "fear" the Komeito party. The old adage of "relgion and politics do not mix" is most likely a western one. Clearly they do mix in the Komeito.
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The Anticult, I agree with the need to study "chanting" and health benefits. I know a study was done with "Christian prayer" and there was no difference in overall recovery rates over people where there was no prayer (the exception was where christian groups framed and funded the studies...WHAT A SHOCKER!). I also know that this new age healing thing that many nurses are int
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Quotetsukimoto Adding to the irony, Bill Aiken, the Public Affairs Director for SGI, says, "There are no Buddhist hate chants that I'm aware of." Well, no Bill, there are no specific chants that I know of that actually mean, "I hate you, drop dead." That doesn't mean that SGI has not directed its share of hate and discontent toward those who were considered, &
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I agree with everyone here. When my wife (then girlfriend) introduced me to SGI-USA, I was struck by what The Anticult said. This form of "Buddhism" was the same form as the Amway salesmen that brought me to a meeting. Everything was prosperity and material. I was somewhat studied of religion (I had wanted to be a minister in the UCC) and found this an odd form of religion. I mean
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Kittyluv and tsukimoto; My wife's BEST FRIEND in SGI-USA was to be our "Saki Girl" at our wedding ceremony. (serves 3 cups of saki to both of us at the alter...the first cup is small (to represent the past), the second is medium (to represent the present) and the third is large, representing, of course, the future). She bailed out at the last minute and my wife asked another f
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tsukimoto, thanks for making me remember (it's been over a decade now). The Anticult, as always you are an encyclopedia of knowledge for us all on almost any subject. You typed: Ikeda is a Buddhist, like Caesar was a Buddhist. But when Caesar dies, Caesar II takes over. A new leader will just take over, and it could even get worse, like Scientology did after their leader died.
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tsukimoto, you seem to be the "go to" expert on this thread. What is it called when members host a "chanting party" where all they do is chant Nam Myoho Ren Gay Kyo? I was always a little freaked out because it looked like mental illness. "Hey! Come over to my apartment and we can chant for world peace nonstop for 6 hours!"
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tsukimoto and The Anticult and everyone else here: Does anyone have any knowledge of an offshoot of a Nichiren sect which does Gongyo Verrrrrrrrrrry sloooooowly? My wife had a cab driver in NYC who was a member and got angry at her when he found she was doing Gongyo at light-speed saying that the "Power" of Gongyo is lost if you speed through the sandscrit (and let's face it, m
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Buddhism is my favorite of Mankind's religions...No god-head. No need to believe in god(s). It doesn't get much better than that. Avoid SGI, however. It is not a true form of Buddhism.
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tsukimoto and Rangdrol, Man, you guys bring me back...shakabuku! What a scream! Can any logical person believe that SHOUTING in sanscript at strangers at stop signs etc. is going to make them say "Hey...SGI...wow, that's for ME! Just look at how they abuse strangers! I canb't wait for them to abuse me as a member!" I remember my wife (girlfriend at the time) walking
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