It will never cease to amaze me the crassness of some posters who then are "stunned" to be banned from the forum. Very few sites are as well moderated as this one which is one reason this is a favourite of mine.
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Has Scientology ever killed someone? Maybe. The scandal also has driven Miscavige completely insane. Watch this video here (6 minutes):
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Anon1, great work in contacting Mr. Ross on Alcor! You are really making a difference. Keep up the good work with any Alcor news in the digital-newspapers that you can send to Rick to add to the Alcor sub-set on this board. Great job!
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gpoilman, thank you for your honest and open response. I will say that I know nothing about 'Choices'. I do know about LGATs from reading the heart-rending accounts on this site and others. I think you may do well to understand everyone's mood here by reading some of these past stories and 'witnessing' (to borrow the christian term) that people have done who have h
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Thanks to newgirl08 for the link, apparently Choices is limited in the geographical area of damage it can inflict. They boast about three areas, Texas, Vancouver and Calgary where they conduct their LGAT. They do the typical money-grab of offering multiple seminars including ones for teens and for relationship development. The one most intersting was the business one aimed at corporations to
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QUOTE FROM gpoilman: "...I challenge you to find anyone who has attended Choices to speak poorly of it. It is not a cult, nor is it brainwashing. It is somewhat secretive because the strength lies in not knowing what is next. They definatly use methods that some whould question just due to the secrecy, however therin lies their strength..." A challenge? From your very words this
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OPEN THE TANKS. Full disclosure. Are the people who bought "immortality" actually accounted for? This is a case for the State's Attorney General to protect people's investments. This is a clear question of business accountability. OPEN THE TANKS.
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Wow...are you sure you weren't in business sales? That sure would have summed it up!
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Here's a strange thought...do you think Pizer and the other salesmen have a freezer lined up for them at death? If not, it's like buying a Ford from a salesman who drives a Nisson.
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Anon1, you missed your calling in being a satirist. Well done.
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Exactly right, GratefulRage. Parents have child vaccinated + child later diagnosed with autism + they see crap and lies on Oprah = "The vaccination made my child autistic!" That is exactly how the psychics scam people. No one remembers the failed predictions, only the accidental "successes" therefore people consider the psychic to be "the real deal". It
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And don't forget, they ALSO get a cut personally from off the top of the estate if the duped elderly person appointed them as executer. Graft all around.
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Wow, The Anticult. Great posts. I would like to ad my two cents: FTA QUOTE:"What's worse is that while seeking advice from quacks who promote this wishful thinking, at the same time she reinforces that most fundamental aspect of medical woo. When you are sick it isn't because human bodies are fragile, or they wear out, or are attacked by bacteria and viruses, instead it's
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Christa, thanks for reposting the links from xenu.net and others as it is all great stuff. Those heathen fools who think we all evolved from ape-like creatures are mistaken...we are all CLAMS! (sarcasm off). eaglecage, I agree that Wikipedia needs to have a neutral bias as well so CoS critics should not be able to change the CoS info...to a point. I think facts are facts, but emotion should
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nabashalam and Oerliken; Guys guys guys! PLEASE tone it down and be more respectful to each other or you may both run the risk of being banned. Keep the conversation going with less personal attacks on each other, for the CONVERSATIONS sake! This sort of vitriolic exchange is not long tolerated here.
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I think the ban is fine. Wikipedia is NOT a government run website so "freedom of speech" doesn't apply. We all have "freedom of speech" but must live with the consequences of said speech. If I tell my boss what I really think about him, he would have the right to fire me. Wikipedia is moderated just like this forum is. You have NO right to violate the agreed upon
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I'll do you one better...100% are fake. If you want to be healed, go to a doctor.
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Oprah has done much charitable work. As has been covered at CultNews.net (Rick's news headline site) there is physical abuse alledgedly going on at her African school. She has repeatedly shilled for The Secret and other dubious "philosophies". She also is used to spread false rumors as was her dust up several years ago on the American beef industry. She is an entertainer.
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It sounds like you may have hit the nail on the head, Zorro. Amway changes it's name (I forget to what) and I remember others doing the same (I forget specifically who). Landmark needs to "restructure" to deflect the negative critism. Zorro and Lars, can you imagine that any REAL changes will be made? Seems to me the leadership will be untouched and the techniques to screw with
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I was pressured by a co-worker into "joining" Amway (or whatever they currently call themselves). I didn't really "join"...I went to one of their stupid "Rah! Rah!" events with my co-worker's meat-hooks into me. A lot of it struck me as what I'd imagine a christian revival camp to be, with prayers and cheers. I bought the $90 (USD) "sample"
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Is this the same "doctor" who claimed he could CURE AIDS several years ago with heating a patient's blood and then re-cycling it back into the body?
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Hi, frogla. Sorry not to be more proactive in leaving messages. I did check out the website. I can't imagine this group has any large followings since their website is poorly run (A large group would have a talent pool with which to get a young computer wiz to moderate the site for free). I think the most bizarre thing is the conversations with 'God' that this husband and w
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To quote the Cryonics Insitute main web page "catch phrase": "Your Last Best Chance For Life--and Your Family's." Cryonics clearly preys upon those with no god-head religion (christians, jews and moslems need not apply). It also cannot prey on atheistic religions such as buddhism or even rationalists with no religion but who "worship" logic and knowle
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QuotePhilOssifur Why do they hate me? Well, I follow Larouche pretty closely. And I've made the argument that cryonics cannot exist in a world where Larouche's policies are not put into place. I've taken a look at your own analysis of Larouche and it's mainly focused on the Dugan case which was a British setup. But that's another story. This whole thing gets more intr
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PhilOssifur, Sorry you feel you must go. I don't think anyone on this thread thinks you are involved in the cultic nature (the vice-like grip of control from the "higher-ups") of the cryonic movement, in fact, I have felt you are a hopeful believer in cryonics and as I have pointed out, desire to live forever/cheat death or just live longer than currently medically possible is
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The lure of "eternal life" is a strong one, as everyone knows. The Sci-Fi cult of cryonics preys upon that basic human fear and emotion. When I think of being a human popsicle and being thawed out in the future, all I can think of are sci-fi films and comedies like "Vanilla Sky", "Demolition Man", "Futurama" and of course the most believable of them all a
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Interesting link. I would however believe that Crazy Ol' Phelps is talking about the "impending" Rapture, not suicide which is poo-poo'ed in Baptist (and Christian) philosophy. He could also be talking about being martyred by being assassinated or some thing. I would be shocked if this was a suicide reference.
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It all seems that it should come down to government (State/fed) regulation of these "services". Hell, a realtor, insurance agent, attorney OR DOCTOR OR NURSE need to be licensed with the various state's they reside in, why not cryonics? The state's are in deep financial doo-doo these days...now might be a GREAT TIME to contact the state representatives at the state capita
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Golly. I hope Mark Plus doesn't get P-Oed at me and take me off of his X-mas card list. I didn't mean to infer that the current cryonic people are running the place like a classic cult by definition and are not accountable to people who give them their cold (pun intended) hard cash. I know that everyone out there that is involved as a patient/client of Mark Plus and the cryonic movem
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