My story mirrors Ian's. I started in butler's cult, his gurukula, moved through 4 to 5 others gaudiya groups including ISKCON.
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Any news on this Admin?
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Truth wins, Thanks for this. Pretty much sums up butler's group and many other krishna groups in a nutshell. Those that do not fully leave usually experience a residual hold based on conditioning and excessive use of repetition in all cult activities. Important observations here that expose the preaching style of Saraswati and others after him following in his line of thought. A suppos
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Happy new year everyone. Here's a good read for 2022: https://www.amazon.com/Cultish-Language-Fanaticism-Amanda-Montell/dp/0062993151
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Over the years commenting here I have gotten many people writing me private messages like this one below: Hi how you doing? I'm interested to know, leading up to you leaving the cult or whatever we may call it, did you face difficulties? Currently I have to admit I'm going through quite a hard time, trying to figure out what I believe now. I just started a new job, I feel embar
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Here is substance: https://www.academia.edu/38329691/Universalising_Inclusivism_and_Its_Limits_Bhaktivinod_and_the_Experiential_Turn And here is the intolerant dictatorship of these groups masquerading as giving people the only best true spirituality: I especially like how easily they lump Christians with atheists and so-called mayavadis, aka, Buddhists/advaitans. Who are, in their e
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The entire post is an attack on the cult of Chris Butler. How is that not personal? I'm asking what business and help, on this forum,is there to preach, literally copy and paste, ideology of this cult? I've already refuted and exposed these types of quotes from the cult founders. So I guess for future visitors who have become disillusioned with this cult we shall now Pepper p
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I'm suggesting that people use their critical thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of any number of these religious leaders as something absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. I'm asking people to actually read and try to honestly ask themselves if what they are reading and hearing is making any actual sense or if they are fooling themselves into rationalizing total
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I'm suggesting that people use their critical thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of any number of these religious leaders as something absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. I'm asking people to actually read and try to honestly ask themselves if what they are reading and hearing is making any actual sense or if they are fooling themselves into rationalizing total
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I'm suggesting that people use their critical thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of any number of these religious leaders as something absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. I'm asking people to actually read and try to honestly ask themselves if what they are reading and hearing is making any actual sense or if they are fooling themselves into rationalizing total
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I'm suggesting that people use their critical thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of any number of these religious leaders as something absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. I'm asking people to actually read and try to honestly ask themselves if what they are reading and hearing is making any actual sense or if they are fooling themselves into rationalizing total
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If you think that Jesus Christ is the reason for the season, you have a lot of history to catch up on. Siddhantasaraswati was it divisive fanatical religious preacher. Do you honestly think that he or any of his followers would do congregational chanting in the streets of the name of Allah or Jesus or any other God that has been warships throughout history? An unequivocal absolutely no. So
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May we all pray this holiday: The Lord's only true representative on earth, his Holiness Chris Butthole, has hidden away in his beach house tinfoil mansion in Hawaii for the welfare of all humanity. He has done this to purify us all of our imperfections and sins. He has given us maha coolaid to drink in the form of cartoon-like mythology and sing-song mantras to keep us in a docile state
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Hypocrite Tusli Gab-Bard, devout follower and disciple of Siddhaswarupanada Paramahamsa, Jagad Guru, Chris Butler, is once agian caught in the politiclaly self-serving act of sporting a military uniform while complaining about self-serving politicians. This modern day Arjuna is complaining about wars and politicians, while sporting a military uniform and being a politician herself. Pretty much su
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So the lie was about the supposed split in the teachings of two brother gurus/leaders in the community and how exactly were you threatened? With psychic blocks? What do those do? How were 4 generations of your family threatened and affected?
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What were they lying and deceiving about? Did not see or hear anything specific in your recording and letters and blog.
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Therapy is of paramount importance when leaving these Cults. Can't stress it enough. After years of it making mashed potatoes of my brain I benefited greatly from one on one and group therapy. Eventually I had enough confidence to trust myself again. Regardless if you come out believing in God or a guru or religion, try focusing on REALITY. In a cult that bakes your brain in fict
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I feel you are giving these gurus too much credit and power. They have only as much power as you allow them to have in your life.
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“I was shipwrecked before I even boarded . . . the journey showed me this— how much of what we have is unnecessary, and how easily we can decide to rid ourselves of these things whenever it’s necessary , never suffering the loss.”—SENECA, MORAL LETTERS, 87.1
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I keep getting this error message when posting. Any idea why and what causes this? It's frustrating as well because at times I have lost everything I wrote after clicking "post message": Phorum Database Error Sorry, a Phorum database error occurred. Please try again later! Error: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_swedish_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for o
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Culthusiast, That is the basic formula. This cult has always been about the exaggeration of facts, half-truths and disingenuous talking points that don't in fact reflect what they are about at all. Some claims they make that don't add up at all: 1. The religion is over 5000 years old. Not true even remotely. Chaitanya Vaishnavism accepts Chaitanya as an avatar of vishnu/krishna
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Oh man, Vox, this is a full time job sometimes fighting the random, out-of-left-field comments on here... There are countless pages of many Puranas dedicated to discussing the low nature of women and praising them in another (most if not all caste-related injunctions). These types of verses lead to cognitive dissonance. A body of scriptures that says one thing here and another there is simply
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“I think ideology is toxic, all ideology. It’s not that there are good ones and bad ones. All ideology is toxic, because ideology is a kind of insult to the gift of human free thinking.” – Terence McKenna
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Today I am taking my daughter to a Hare Krishna temple. I want to show her what I grew up believing. She is going to shit her pants and either laugh at me or feel sorry for me or wonder why the hell I did that. I am going to have to tell her that this is what my mother wanted for me and I had little to no choice in the matter. And that this led to years of feeling isolated, not seeing my father o
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DeWatcher, The only propaganda happening here is you repeatedly coming here and deflecting, distracting and vouching support for this destructive cult and ones like it (i.e. other gaudiya vaishnava groups that share the same basic ideology). Time after time you claim more context is needed to verify that such and such comment by the swami or butler is in some way needing more "context&quo
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DeWatcher— Excuse my french, but what the fuck does any of this have to do with the swamis comments? there is no context for them, nor did he give any. His views on women and jews and blacks and rape/dictators/biology/cosmology/history have popped up numerous times with the same exact sentiment expressed. No context given besides his narrow, incorrect views on everything from cosmology to biol
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Radhika Bianchi is a brave person. She was born and raised in this crap and some of her older videos really capture the sheer lunacy of the swamis words and the complete fanaticism of his blind followers gobbling it all up like kids on Halloween. There is biting cynicism and sarcasm there that many take as "pride" or "envy". But when you listen to what she is saying and reveal
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You can thank all the blue gods in the world that this nutso didn't get elected to anything: This fanatical religious nut job thinks a 17 year old gun-happy kid is "just trying to defend his community" from "rioters". Remember this. Bhaktivedanta swami envisioned a world where if people did not accept his Krishna god they should be shot: That coupled with
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DaWatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > corboy Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > * At Starbucks you order black coffee instead > of > > the Frappuchino you really want because there's > a > > long line behind you and you don't want to make > > them wait. > > Can Yo
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