Quotesonnie_deeQuote <snip> Caligari, my apologies I didn't realise you were a graduate of est Thanks. No problemo. -- Caligari
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QuoteHopePlease refresh my memory. Is the LFIA series the Seminar Series, sessions that follow the Forum - those 10 sessions that they tell you are in-depth sessions on topics discussed in the forum, making it sound like you're getting a real bang for your buck???? I'm not sure who you're asking. But in case it's me, I'll respond here :) I had a business office i
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Quotesonnie_dee <snip> QuoteI haven't taken The Forum and have taken a few sessions of "The Landmark Forum in Action" recently. Some staff members may have a negative view of therapy now. May I ask who was the Forum Leader Going along to a few sessions of LFIA is not taking it, you would have been asked to move into an introduction after graduates and the Landmar
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QuoteHope Unlike Scientology, est/Landmark does not attack and discount psychology and psychiatry. There's no prohibition and advice against psychiatric counseling. Actually there are at least a few Landmark pscyhologists and psychiatrists. They simply maintain the ideology of self-created, subjective reality with it's consequences. -- Caligari I took the Forum in 12/01 a
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QuoteMarkusWelchQuotecaligariQuoteelenaQuotecaligari I read "Outrageous Betrayal" by Pressman about four years ago. While it he did interviews and based information on that (or claims to since no references are provided), much of it is speculative. One example, is Pressman imagines Jack Rosenbergs thoughts while he's on a plane leaving Philadelphia. I find no basis for this
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QuoteglamQuoteroveberg I will state my case against others' backed by the stand that I am. I have a suspicion that anyone who's really PISSED OFF with Landmark Education really needs to look at who they were being in the matter that they allowed themselves to be so irresponsible. Your newly garbled language reflects your newly garbled thought process. Welcome to Landmark Land
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QuoteelenaQuotecaligari I read "Outrageous Betrayal" by Pressman about four years ago. While it he did interviews and based information on that (or claims to since no references are provided), much of it is speculative. One example, is Pressman imagines Jack Rosenbergs thoughts while he's on a plane leaving Philadelphia. I find no basis for this passage of "est's s
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QuoterovebergHi, I'd like to throw open a new topic on this board about Landmark Education. Only this one will be slightly different from others. I'm really really curious as to what people have to say about Landmark, and sharing my experiences and personal thoughts on the enterprise. I'm not interested in people gathering agreement for their point of view, and I will stat
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QuoteconcernedfriendQuotecaligari I would like to suggest that the idea of we all create our own arbitrary "story" is not correct. Most healthy people determine and judge correctly the meaning of past events to their values and purposes. That the stories or structure of memories people have for the most part have accurate meaning for their current situation and future. The idea of su
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QuoteelenaQuotecaligari Could you point me to a few of these references? In the eight years I was heavily involved I never heard one disparging remark about therapists. Werner did have a habit of making off the cuff strident remarks in internal meetings -- so it's not unusual he may have said something. But I never heard of or saw a organizational stand against therapists. -- C
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QuoteconcernedfriendI just found this forum and am glad I did. I was in Lifespring from 1985 through 1988. I did the Basic, Advanced, Leadership, Masters, Sexuality, and Abundance and Prosperity courses. I staffed the basic, advanced courses, and Masters courses. Almost every month I interviewed graduates of the Basic course to guide them into the Advanced course. During those three years almost
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QuoteelenaQuotecaligari Unlike Scientology, est/Landmark does not attack and discount psychology and psychiatry. There's no prohibition and advice against psychiatric counseling. Actually there are at least a few Landmark pscyhologists and psychiatrists. They simply maintain the ideology of self-created, subjective reality with it's consequences. -- Caligari They did
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Quoteelena --Yikes! She belongs in therapy. They are doing her a gross injustice and should be prosecuted for something like practicing medicine without a license. Unfortunately, they will or probably have already convinced her that real or conventional therapy is useless, worthless, or dangerous, since she must have "claimed" to be "well" or mentally "healthy&
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Quotesonnie_deeWhat's the "empty & meaningless" pitch empty and meaningless is supposed to be this point where you realise that life is empty and meaningless and every ounce of meaning we have in our lives we have put there... sometimes good meaning.. sometimes not so good. What it also means is that every thing in your life... good bad or otherwise is your own doing!
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Quotemidonov123Dear folks, I forwarded my letter above to my ex-girfriend in an effort to get "complete" with her if I may use the Landmark jargon. This was her stunning reply : "please do not send me anymore of your hate mail. If you try to contact me in any way I will call the police." I feel morally destroyed and disgusted !!! I realize this is what the Landmark
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QuoteeagleThanks...I've picked up the books Cults in Our Midst and Outrageous Betrayal. Any other recommendations on books? I think it would be worthwhile to understand the concepts of Impact Training and work through the basis or assumptions of their ideas. And deduce their consequences. -- Caligari
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Quotemaidynfalljust wanted to thank everyone for their replies. lots of helpful info, personal accounts, advice, links--all good stuff. thank you. will take some of you up on your offers to email you personally. i need support as i sort through this and figure out whatever i'm supposed to be getting from this experience. i do remember in the forum how we were told if we left the room, ev
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QuoteYellowBeardI just saw Rick Ross on Penn & Teller's series Bullsh*t discussing the potential problems with "life coaches". It was a very interesting episode, and it was a pretty cool surprise to see Rick Ross appear. For those of you that subscribe to the cable station Showtime, you should be able to catch a replay of the episode. Also, I highly recommend catching th
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Quotemidonov123I asked my Introduction Leader and Seminar Leader wannabe ex-girlfriend (yes she is now officially my ex- for those who read my other posts) why Landmark is concentrated over 3 days fro, 9 am to midnight sitting on uncomfortable chairs in an uncomfortable room etc... that results in physical discomfort and sleep deprivation. She answered very simply “because their defenses colla
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QuoteglamIMO, Lifespring and Landmark are pretty much identical twins separated at birth. Both very similar and both very dangerous. There's info here about Lifespring: Considering they were both birthed out of Mind Dynamics, there's probably some resemeblance :) Someone who had done Lifespring described it as more focused on emotion and est/Landmark as more cerebral. -- C
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Quotecorboyin addition to examining ideas and contents of belief systems, pay attention to the physical setting in which you were exposed to the information, and whether you were able to get sufficient sleep. If your body is thrown off balance by lack of sleep, poor diet, stress, uncomfortable postures, this is going to affect your mind, along with confusion induced by certain belief systems.
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Quotemaidynfallis that as absurd a question as it sounds?! i took the forum last fall, and am currently in a seminar. i'm getting quite a bit out of my education (indoctrination?), but remain what i consider to be healthfully skeptical. generally, my life is the same; i.e., i'm not incessantly doing landmark-ish stuff, pressuring people to come to an introduction, or blowing off non-
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