QuoteelenaAckkk!!!! Makes me want to puke. I've never heard his voice for more than a short clip before. It's awful. Anyone else think he sounds like Schicklgruber? I've had to hold my nose to sit through this thing. Really disgusting. I don't know how anyone could stand it. All that blabbering and third-grade epistemology. How is it anyone was fooled by this
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanQuotepatrick-darcyi dont know where my post was that i gave out the address on pirate bay so here it is again. This seems to be the better one. :) Dunno how/why these vids are coming out now, but does anyone know more about the background of these ? These come from audio tapes est put out in the early 1980's. I have those and several other a
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A new group of promos for Werner Erhard has been appearing the last few days on YouTube:
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Interesting.
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I started watching "Penn Says" videos on crackle.com. Penn of Penn & Teller. And the third entry is "Dr Phil and Britney Spears". Penn talks about Dr. Phil's cynicism. And it rings true for others like Werner.
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QuoteJaredDCSo, a couple of friends of mine have really suggested that I try out the Landmark Forum. I've heard alot of what they say they can do and it sounds appealing- for instance how they can really improve your sense of self confidence. I also like how they say they can help you let go of your past... I was bullied alot as a kid in school and as a result I have been prone to anger and
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QuoteelenaQuotecaligariTraditionally those honestly practicing a method like magic have exposed charlatans. At the end of his career, Houdini focused on exposing mediums, . Recently Penn & Teller have exposed fake spiritualists on their Showtime program, "Bullshit!", . It would be nice to have knowledgeable hypnotists exposing Landmark's use of hypnosis.
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Traditionally those honestly practicing a method like magic have exposed charlatans. At the end of his career, Houdini focused on exposing mediums, . Recently Penn & Teller have exposed fake spiritualists on their Showtime program, "Bullshit!", . It would be nice to have knowledgeable hypnotists exposing Landmark's use of hypnosis.
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Quotenotmuch4gamesI have been following you guys for a couple of days now. Some very good info on this thread. I have a question-please give me some imput so I can understand how it works..... Can someone tell me exactly how LM uses hypnosis on it's victims? Is there music, or some other trigger that they send recruits home with to "remind" them of their goals? When I did the
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QuoteMarkusWelchQuotecaligariQuoteelenaQuotecaligari I'm surprised that hynosis isn't brought up more in discussing Landmark and it's methods, particularly in journalistic articles. It's possible to discount brainwashing since it's a term that loosely used and often not exact. It's original meaning was though reform through physically coerced methods like the North
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QuoteelenaQuotecaligari I'm surprised that hynosis isn't brought up more in discussing Landmark and it's methods, particularly in journalistic articles. It's possible to discount brainwashing since it's a term that loosely used and often not exact. It's original meaning was though reform through physically coerced methods like the North Korean origins. This can be
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QuoteZorroIt became absolutely clear to me this morning that Landmark uses hypnosis during the Forum, Advanced Course, and Advanced Communications Course. Those are the three that jump out at me. I realized this because yesterday I learned a mechanism for Hypnosis. The mechanism used in the Fear Exercise in the Forum is very similar to the one I learned about. Pretty good way of instilling fea
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Quotems_kiki_s_nutkinThere is a good video called "the century of self" out there online that you can watch for free. It's about the brainwashing of society, its evolution from the 1920's through the use of marketing, how the government has been involved, and also tells about Werner's Est and the human potential movements and how they haven't worked, etc. I found i
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QuoteJohn FoxGo to this Wikipedia page and scroll down to "Administrative Notes" OTRS is a mechanism where people can send legal complaints to Wikipedia regarding articles that they do not like. The article in question is on the biography of Werner Erhard. The process is secretive and can be abused for this reason. Would be most interesting to see who is behind the complaint.
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QuoteZorroHere is my outpost in this battle. Kind of like giving them the finger and taking a piss in their front lawn on their azalea's! Feel free to drop by and say hi! Feel free to join as a friend. I'm keeping it simple though. Just enough to get the message across and get people start looking and finding sites like Rick Ross. This is the area that Landmark hasn't b
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QuoteZorroAwesome!! Very interesting. Germans seemed to be very logical in their thinking, I guess Landmarks BS just doesn't play well over there. I wonder how Landmark does in Switzerland and Austria? Logical thinkers there as well. Please keep us posted. There's four recent videos from lenetherlands, , on YouTube -- Netherlands. They have hardly any views. Don't know th
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QuoteajinajanDid anyone see this tonight? I heard that tonight's episode of "Cavemen", was a spoof on Large Group Awareness Trainings, complete with strange jargon and questions about cults and everything. Did anyone happen to catch this or perhaps even tape it? I think this was the episode information: "The Shaver" November 6, 2007 Code - 106 Episode Numbe
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QuoteMartinHthe good news is that as soon as offices are closed they stay closed, and the spook is over, as in France, Switzerland, Sweden or Denmark ... and they leave some people happy, some people indifferent and many annoyed with Landmark. I think in the end LEC courses are not what people really want or need or what works, and the worst thing is their aggressive marketing and recruitment str
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It takes energy to continually suppress information that keeps cracking through:
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Before ===== After ===
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QuoteajinajanQuoteConcerned OzJust a reminder to all that 60 Minutes is still researching the story on Landmark Education. If you have a story to tell from anywhere in the world, please contact the producer -(details are at the start of this thread). Oz Edit: 8 Sept 2004 Aust EST This story is still current and being researched. The website is still requesting people to come forward:
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QuoteajinajanHere is another one, good example of use of "loaded language", or Landmark Education jargon. See chapter on "loading the language", from Dr. Robert Lifton's book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. TMLP More entertainment from xmanbob2: ;)
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QuoteZorroQuotecaligariAhh, Marcia Martin led the GSLP I was in around 1976 (I think it was the second one.) BTW, the GSLP (Guest Seminar Leaders Program) is the est forerunner to the ILP (Introduction Leaders Program.) She was VP of est then and left within about a year or two later. Caligari, Do you what the circumstances were surrounding why she left? No. My impression is she and oth
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QuoteZorroSpoony, Sounds like you had a pretty severe reaction, with the tunnel vision and all. I had a tunnel vision experience a few weeks ago when I kind of over did it in the heat while servicing my car at my friend car shop, I was already in a weakend state though from not feeling well. So I can certainly visualize what happened. Most Post Land Mark Course Reaction didn't include
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From Science Daily, ================================= Studies say out-of-body is not out-of-mind LONDON, Aug. 24 (UPI) -- British and other European researchers have found a way to induce out-of-body experiences using virtual reality goggles. The researchers, who used the goggles to mix up sensory signals to the brain, said the studies suggest a scientific explanation for a phenome
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QuotebigdogWhile reading all the info here on Landmark, I find myself wondering about their ultimate purpose. Can anyone tell me what it is? Yes, I know they are after money. But sooner or later, their rank and file have to become financially depleted. And new recruits have to eventually become harder and harder to find. Then what? Political power? World domination? I can't seem
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmI recently spoke with an ex-employer who was excited by the prospect of having his employees attend the Landmark Forum. He had just come back from an Intro Night and was going to do more. A lot more! His reasoning was simple. He wanted better productivity. In his words, he was tired of in-house bickering, sick leave and just plain laziness. He envisioned a work team that re
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Spirit of Film audio interview of Robyn Symon on 7/18/07: or
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Also "Jason Schultz at EFF on DMCA Take Down Notices - Part IV" is now up on archive.org: Download any of them, remix, use non-commercially and attribute cirne.com ;)
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Quote"ajinajan" Most interesting, thanks for posting this. This link also discusses a similar analysis of negative affects of these controversial techniques: If you follow the more recent responses by treenyc, he's using a more sophisticated rhetorical method to discredit me then WayneHughes86. treenyc asks leading, friendly questions as if he's concerned ab
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