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17 years ago
naboth675
Just in case you haven't read my post on the other thread, A friend of mine was the subject of an attepted abduction by Potter's House pastor Peter Ajala and some of his disciples as my friend was putting up placards near to his church. The placard asked the simple question if people really knew what Pastor Nigel Brown earned. This seems to provoke a violent response. I'm no
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17 years ago
naboth675
One thing is worth noting. Large amounts of money are given to the head church in Prescott from the main churches in the fellowship. The Prescott church has no proper accounting. It's records are kept well hidden with only the bare bones report being made public. Given the large donations made to Prescott and the clear lack of any accountability, people in Walthamstow are entitled to know wh
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17 years ago
naboth675
I want to report that I have recently recieved a phone call froma friend of mine who was the subject of an attempted abduction on the streets of South London recently. He was putting up posters late on friday evening outside the Potter's Hosue in Rotherhithe when a group who were watching him attepted to ambush him by racing up in a black car, jumping out and giving chase. As my friend r
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17 years ago
naboth675
Thanks for the input. That made useful reading. regards...naboth675
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17 years ago
naboth675
You should also be aware that today in the streets surrounding the Potters House in Walthamstow two men who were putting up posters critical of the fellowship were confronted, threatened and chased. One of these men was slightly injured in making his escape. One of the men involved in this highly controversial action was assistant pastor Jimmy Robinson. Nigel Brown, the senior pastor, pulled
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17 years ago
naboth675
Two protesters were attacked in London today by ushers and leaders of the Walthamstow Potters House. They were putting up posters asking what the pastor of the church really earns when the aforesaid pastor pulled up yelling abuse at one of them. As they made their way away from the vicinity of the church a car driven by a senior member of the church raced up and swerved violently accross the
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17 years ago
naboth675
I would like to respond to miss snoopys comments. Firstly all the information I have is TAKEN FROM CHARITY COMMISSION RECORDS. Secondly the charities commission is overworked, underfunded and simply unable to chase up every single issue. They simply aim at the group's bring in much more money than the average pioneer fellowship church. They are prioritising on groups they suspect of
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17 years ago
naboth675
I'm afraid I haven't heard of the book. I can confirm though that John and Ian Galt are one and the same person on documents submitted to the charities commission. The list of Potters House U.K churches he has done 'independant' accounting for are as follows. Luton, Tottenham,Newcastle, Archway, Northampton and Bury st. Edmunds. This is based on records over the last
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17 years ago
naboth675
O.K here is a clarification {which may work out to be anything but that} According to someone who knew Galt I have been informed that John and Ian may well be the same person! Apparently John's proper first name is Ian but he is commonly nicknamed John. However John also has a teenage son called Ian. What I've noticed is that some documents from the Potters house are signed John Galt
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17 years ago
naboth675
It's not just John Galt folks! He has a relative by the name of Ian Galt who also works an an accountant. This is what I've found 1 / Ian has checked the finacial statement of accounts for the Newcastle Potters House {U.k} in 2001 AND 2005 at least. 2 / All of the last 5 annual reports have been checked by John Galt accounting services. 3 / They recieve hundreds of pounds a tim
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17 years ago
naboth675
Many uk fellowship churches are now registered charites with the multiple thousands of pounds in gift aid claimed from the government as a result. To claim this they have to submit a statement of accounts every year which is checked by an INDEPENDANT ACCOUNTANT. I am going to reveal who that INDEPENDANT ACCOUNTANT is. HIS NAME IS JOHN GALT. For those of you who don't know him here
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17 years ago
naboth675
Have Praise Chapel moved on from the Potters House ways? Here is one pertinant question I would like to ask. Does Praise Chapel still hold to the shepherding doctrine? The Shepherding doctrine also known as spiritual covering, headship ect has caused great damage and brought complaints whereever it has been endorsed and enforced. This is because of the erroneous belief that God has appoin
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17 years ago
naboth675
:D Well said Frank! I am another who is not going to back off on this one. This cult destroy the lives of many. I will do what I can to expose them. I can understand Nitedorks position though. Fighting against these groups can be wearying and when you want to get on with your life and leave the past behind and make peace it can seem like the best thing to do. I think everyone needs to make u
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17 years ago
naboth675
I am a former member of the Potters House U.K and a former lay preacher there. As I have been there for many years let me make a few things clear. 1 - The Walthamstow church was founded in 1986 by an Australian by the name of Peter Beyerman. In the time he was there the church grew to around 400. For the last four years of his tenure he conducted an adulterous affair with a woman in the congre
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17 years ago
naboth675
Well, as this nasty thread is still here I may as well give people a chance to find out what I am really about. I don't run a church, cult or fellowship, religious organisation or anything of the sort. So why am I mentioned here as being in someway dangerous? It is because I post here and on other forums about my experiences and what I saw and heard at the Potters House which I believe t
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17 years ago
naboth675
Do a search on google groups for a site names 'Ernie Toppin' and you can read for yourself some of the things he has done and said. Yes he is talented but that doesn't take away from the abuses. One of his church memebers left suffering from mental trauma. He decieved his chruch into relocating with a prophetic claim of revival as the result {which never materialised} and then
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17 years ago
naboth675
My advice is to simply read Scribners letter to people in his church. That should be enough to set alarm bells ringing until your ears ache. Does anybody know how the Ernie Toppin revival went at the Lighthouse? regards...naboth675
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17 years ago
naboth675
As regards Mitchell's salary there was an incident many years ago in which one of his workers overseas suddenly found out he wasn't covered in the event of sickness. Mitchell had cancelled the medical insurance. Contrary to what many are told in that christian should not take christian to court {Mitchell routinely ignores this on the basis that he thinks he can dictate who is a real
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17 years ago
naboth675
On one occasion Mitchell was preaching about temptation and he made the statement. "Here she comes, wiggling her TW*T" This was completely unnecessary and uncalled for given the context of the sermon. An aquaintance of mine from Tuscon {Harold Warners church} told me that Mitchell was known in private for referring to afro Americans as 'Niggers' and 'Wetbacks' and
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17 years ago
naboth675
This sounds more like a personal attack than a discussion on abusive religious groups. What has this got to do with destructive churches? I appreciate the fact that the decision on these things is with the moderator but may I respectfully ask that this thread be removed. regards...naboth675
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17 years ago
naboth675
Hello pastor Greg. I'm glad to hear from you that there are Praise Chapel chruches that are not following the cfm pattern. I am, however, very concerned about the reports of horrific mental abuse that I have had coming in to my message board. I am currently in communication with a gentleman who is unaware of cfm's tactics and pratices but yet described the things going on in his Prai
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17 years ago
naboth675
Hi naboth here. I'm glad to see more information getting out about this organisation. You may be interested to know that pastor Ernie Toppin is now 'Evangelist' Ernie Toppin. He claims he has left his chruch in revival but I know that's not true. At it's heightwhen I was there in 2002 therewere about 18 regular adults in a sunday morning service plus maybe half a doze
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17 years ago
naboth675
quote "Mitchell and Harold Warner were putting pressure on Scribner to remove John Schmidt because he did not step down when his wife died" unquote. So if a ministers wife dies then the minister must relinquish his church and therefore his ministry. However if your name is Harold Warner and your wife sleeps with a couple of blokes in the congregation that can be overlooked and Harold
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17 years ago
naboth675
I'm not sure that anyone still reads this thread but here goes. The group is on... {hope that link works} I think I recall aether sage from the old slam the door message board. If it's you then hello. I hope you are well. I used to post on there back in 2005. regards...naboth675
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17 years ago
naboth675
If you want more info on this group then there are many sites that can help. My own website is below and you can find links to many more from there. Incidently it is worthwhile adding your comments onto several existing threads about the Potters House {They also go by that name. Not the Potters House run by T.D Jakes I might add}. There are thousands who read the posts about the Potters House and
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17 years ago
naboth675
Tell me about it. Foursquare have a lot to answer for in all this. For years the leader of the Potters House,Wayman Mitchell ridiculed and mocked Forsquare while he was in it and flouted many of their laws. From what I heard he never really properly qualified from bible college anyway yet they gave him a total of three churches. In my book Foursquare were spineless in dealing with him at the
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17 years ago
naboth675
That church sounds very like the preaching of the Potters House I know. To be honest you are going to find many groups who are very defined and direct about what they believe. Thatdoesn't in and of themselves make them a cult. This Potters House however has a long history of bullying, coercion and manipulative practices. One of the most frightening aspects of it is that you can be in there a
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17 years ago
naboth675
The term 'breakdown' is commonly used in C.F.M circles. In fact what it usualy comes down to is a quickie report often covering no more than several lines giving the most bare bones summary of church income and expenditue over the previous twelve months. A few months ago I recieved a complaint from a board member of creative accounting practiced used by the pastor. This was one of t
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17 years ago
naboth675
Firstly a correction to my previous post. The pastor in question is Larry GREGORY and not Neville as I said previously. At present a fellowship disciple is trying to claim an inside scoop as to the events which transpired in Fiji during the split only to be confronted by Gregory's wife on the message board. The primacy in getting money and keeping it is one of the biggest scandals of thi
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17 years ago
naboth675
A former member of praise chapel contacted me in the last few weeks complaining of horrendous mental abuse. This is the organisation which was led by a guy called Mike Neville if I rememebr correctly. There is a deliverance ministry going on there now where the pastor accuses all and sundry of having demons inside them and then compelling them to vomit into bins as he 'delivers' them.
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