The BIGr Secret The Rick Ross Message Board Thread THEY Do Not Want You to Read!!! Its titled 'Manipulating the Room's Environment' I am still trying to sort this out, but it might be useful to break this down into an analogy..see a group as similar to a computer--the applications part (MS word, browsers), the operating systems portion (MS DOS), and the hardware (your
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Dear VC and others: There are some topics that are intellectually fascinating, can be discussed and argued about forever, but cannot be solved. It will be a mere chasing after the wind, vanity of vanities. Free will/determinism is one topic that has never been solved. . Nonduality vs Dual nature of reality is another Meme Theory is a fun toy for the mind, but its just an hypothesis
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Also, in some divorces, money gets freed up and turns liquid. Cough.
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The website for Siddha Yoga is still up And they are still giving shaktipat intensives, too. Note the prices for the silk and pashmina/cashmere shawls. If you want something of that sort, I advise some comparison shopping on ebay.com Not very large, either--40 inches wide x 78 inches long. Unless you're a tiny person, its barely enough to cover your ass, even when sitting
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The Disappearing or Deceased Guru Regarding Gurumayi disappearing, go read material on the Rituals of Disenchantment blog. (and read the comments too) People were disgusted that Gurumayi had vanished from the scene. But others were still hoping and wondering if she'd re-appear, yet others insisted that no matter what bad things had happened in SY 'that wasn't MY experienc
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Anticult wrote: I am waiting for the guru who dies, but they keep him alive for decades using digital video technology. They are. They're doing it with Osho (formerly known as Rajneesh, he of the rolls royces, girls, and the salmonella salad bar) And some new hagiographic biogs of Chogyam Trungpa are out, too. His wife, Diana Mukpo wrote one. She tells how after their wedding ni
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Its not enough to call it 'Leaving Siddha Yoga' We may have to speak of 'Leaving Siddha Yoga and Leaving covert application of LGAT iTrance Induction' This possible scenario is further discussed here. The people who are struggling with lingering effects of their time in SY, may not be dealing with just a corrupt guru system. They may, without knowing it have been aff
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Muktananda and Werner Erhard Stuart's website as of this morning (june 29, 2008) mentioned this "LGATs (Large Group Awareness Trainings) were all the rage when I was growing up in the 70s. They include Werner Erhart's now-defunct est, its successor The Forum (aka Landmark Education), Lifespring, and many spin-offs. I've never attended these, **though the many Intens
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Dr Amen gets quoted in Men's Health Magazine website Understanding Sex and the BrainSex on the Brain Sexy Photo Here Why does temptation so often trip up seemingly smart, decent guys? Expert: Daniel Amen, M.D., Photographs by: Ondrea Barbe *(Reference to disgraced NY Governor Eliot Spitzer follows. Set up is horniness followed by anxiety arousing scenario rooted in recent
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Finally, regarding the acceptance of responsibility: When put under pressure, many human potential leaders love to wail that Jesus was misunderstood and persecuted too. Or their advocates invoke that scenario, likening their poor, misunderstood leader to the suffering Jesus. Just to pre-empt this, I invite readers to remember the story as told in the Greek Scriptures: Jesus took the rap
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If LGAT leaders and gurus really were serious about teaching us lowly peons to accept responsiblity, they model responsible behavior themselves and in the following ways: Use their energy and ambition to get into accredited clinical training programs. They would bear the responsibility of doing the years of training and pass the tests needed to become licensed mental health professionals.
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The Rick Ross Message Board Golden Oldies Threads Or..various ways human beings are manipulable--especially the ones who consider themselves special, invulnerable and impervious There are a pair of old threads instigated by a discussion of a different group that sparked discussion of what have been called 'memes' and what some term 'viruses of the mind.' How We Pro
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For those who want to see some arguments within the SY fold visit and read the comments following this article. To really cut to the chase, scroll down and start reading the comments that begin on February 5th.
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"If you want to get worked up about something, get worked up about churches telling children they will suffer in hell if they don’t follow some book. That’s child abuse pure and simple. Get worked up about Mormons who want to justify pedophilia via polygamy." Err...those of us who have posted here are not 'worked up' about anything. We are sharing information and applying c
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What is quoted below was written by someone who spent time in a different group, with a different ideology and quite a different legitimating narrative. But..that organization was (and reportedly remains) a set up where emotions were suppressed using a one-size fits all technique that was claimed to be a cure-all if one just did practiced it enough times--and took yet more courses, and paid y
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Solea wrote of her own guru: 'She was very sweet and benevolent to out of town visitors. She was very disciplining and strict with those of us beside her on a daily basis. " This is classic. Its like families that, in private and behind closed doors, are nasty to their children, but thrill adult visitors with lovely parties, charm, haute cuisine. My mother was delightful with h
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Carl Jung on the Hazards of Blowback Carl G. Jung travelled in India and made some intriguing remarks about how its general spiritual approach affected him as one who had been formed by the culture and mythology of Northern Europe. I think Jung's comments are worth our attention for he was examining belief systems in the 1950s that remained mostly segregated in India and had not yet
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I might add that this thread on Eckhart Tolle and Advaita attracted some energy draining troll visitations. As an educational service, here is a method that can be used to identify whether someone, very early in his or her career is developing into a disruptive presence. Here is how to do it: If someone is making you feel annoyed or uneasy, dont reply to them. Do this instead: G
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There are two articles in this same thread that deal with concerns expressed earlier by solea: “The nature of the 'spiritual teacher'/'disciple' dyad makes impossible to do any sort of scientific examination to see if the teacher's claims are true or actually help people. John Wren-Lewis was a scientist and found himself in a state nondual realization as a resu
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Performing a Joe Montana Catch This is the recipe: If someone is starting to give you bad feelings or make you feel shamed, crabby, etc, instead of going reactive and fighting with the person point by point (which is an energy drain), do an author search on that person. Anyone of you can do it. Its easy. Very few understand what a resource the search button is on RR.com's message bo
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Hello friends and neighbors: Some advice. Go to the 'search' button on the upper right hand corner of the RR.com message board window. Open it. Scroll down to do an an 'author search' and type 'all forums' and 'all dates' and do the search for our new and very loud, bold face using friend, poysnpn See if his or her posts show signs of develo
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To repeat, good friends, it is easy and simple for any registered of this board (and even for a visitor) to do a search and study the cumulative posts of a particular author. (The 'Search' button is in the top right corner of the RR.com window with a small icon of a magnifying glass next to it.) The most effective method of Early Detection of Trolls is to do it when a correspondant i
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If you want to know whether Anticultist was involved with Landmark, go do an all dates and all forums search and you will get this. Read the first post which was put on May 29th, on the thread about being terminated for refusing to attend LEC on orders from one's employer. Observe the context. Several RR.com members were giving advice on how to seek legal redress when this popped up from
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Ex-Sci kid was active on this other thread and was far from polite when corresponding with a person who was courteous, kind and helpful. In the schoolyard this would be considered bullying. And it was interesting that Ex Sci followed a rather similar strategy of seeming to be reasonable and then very quickly engaging in facile put downs of licensed psychotherapists and then making it se
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Sleep deprivation is rampant in the United States. That means many people who are persuaded to do an LGAT are already sleep deprived and would be vulnerable to disorientation and deterioration in critical thinking brought on by the added sleep disruption and stress induced by the LGAT. Even a crudely designed LGAT could throw quite a few people off kilter if they are already sleep deprived prio
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Bodies know a great deal. Its the basis of martial arts training and self defense workshops. You train and train until you can do it automatically. And there is a network of neurotransmitters in the gut that is so rich in neurotransmitter receptors that it has been termed 'the second brain.' So far, there has been strong evidence relating gut digestive function to brain f
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I totally agree this site has to remain moderated. Too many times, attempts have been made to subvert discussions. In the old days we had some people who kept trying to disrupt another discussion thread elsewhere. They'd be banned and within a day, sneak on under a new name, get banned again, and in 24 hours be back under another new name. Still---just in case people are being ordered or
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Guys, I may have been reading too many stories about espionage. But I want to offer some food for thought. It may assist us to become much more effective in dealing with disruptive people. What if some of our disruptive vistors are instructed to troll on RR.com, in such a way that they will feel abused on RR.com and by RR.com? That way...drumroll...this distracts them from how their bos
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This website by Dr Delany Dean is full of interesting articles. Here are a few to whet the readers appetite. Dr D is a clinical psychologist, does clinical supervision of interns in training, is an attorney and uses mindfulness based cognitive therapy in her practice. The sidebar of her blog is full of interesting articles. Dr. D read our discussion on BK and has something to say about her ow
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