That proves how crooked SGI-USA is financially. Any "non-profit" org that refuses to publish openly its AUDITED financial statements, does not deserve $1 in donations from anyone. Not a cent. And of course, any closed-room financial papers would be some SGI-USA disinformation, vague pie-graphs and things like that. That sounds like a Scientology scam, to show you fake-docs in a room.
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Quoteleeduffield Had the district leader phoning on Monday promising me a lifetime of poor health and Avici Hell in the hereafter.To be fair,the chapter leaders both wished me well though. that is a double-bind part of their training to try and keep people in the sect. Curse the unbeliever with hellfire and brimstone and cancer due to their unbelief, and give them some love-bombing at the sam
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There are actually reports of SGI and Mitsubishi misdeeds, as well as reports that SGI's main financing bank is The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi. Of course, the problem is SGI keeps all of their finances secret, so only Ikeda and his family know where the money is, and where it went. "In March 1990, a swirl of accusations over a mysterious transaction involving the Soka Gakkai, the Mit
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Actually, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and SGI are a nice match. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries say they are going "Green" and a partial weapons list is below. The difference with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and SGI, is when MHI tells their "Greenwashing" lies, no rational person is going to believe them, and understands its just corporate propaganda to maximize profits and t
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SGI wants to try to hook people in for 3 years to SGI, because they know if they can hook someone in for 3 years, then they might get them for 10-to-Life. also, if the person walks away after 3 years, then at least SGI got 3 years of dues and unpaid-labor out of them. Yes, with SGI, you can lead the 'spiritual path' without having to renounce greed, lust and avarice. That says it a
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Well from memory, Ching Hai was originally talking about the 2012 End of the World long ago, just as a way to bilk her followers of more money. Then she extended it again, as predicted, then extended it even more. Its very unfortunate that followers of these false Guru's don't realize that their Guru lies for a living. Its hard for them to imagine someone lying so self-consciously
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That's right, Ching Hai said the world was going to end today...Dec 21, 2012. Whoops, more lies from Ching Hai. Its hard for average people to understand Con-Artists like Ching Hai, they just brazenly lie. They lie lie lie, simply to gain advantage, and make money, and manipulate people. As said in this thread long ago, Ching Hai was simply lying, simply to get her followers to giv
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Sure people can choose to treat the image with respect, and dispose of it as they see fit. Or they can just chuck it out. Its up to them, no need for any guilt for either decision. Some people have quite happily burnt their old religious superstitious material, and used treating it disrespectfully as a metaphor for taking their life of rationality back from primitive superstition. Eac
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That sounds like a SGI BRAZEN LIE, not just a delusion caused by drugs or mental-illness... Why? Because right after claiming their false bullshit non-miracle (that never happened) about the water spraying in the face and curing their disease in a Miracle Healing, they make the pitch for MONEY. and to give YOUR LAST $5. So its all about persuasion, to persuade you to GIVE SGI THE LAST M
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Everyone needs to publicize that psychopathic filth by Neale Donald Walsh. On top of their psychopathic bullshit, guys like Neale Donald Walsh don't apply their bullshit to themselves. They are just mainly lining their own pockets with "donations". On a deeper level, clearly these guys like Neale Donald Walsh are trying to absolve themselves of their own GUILT for scamming p
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QuoteFindingmywaytodayI am sorry for my ignorance, but is one an SGI member as long as you have an SGI Gohonzon? I no longer attend meetings, and I am rarely called. I am connected to a district, but no one asks about coming to chant with me, so that is fine. Am I still a member, as long as I have a Gohonzon from the SGI? SGI plays mind-games with their members. They try to make people believe
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These psychopaths selling the fake Law Of Attraction rationalize rape, crime, cancer, the Holocaust, genocide, mass starvation, earthquakes, fire, and anything else you can think of. Byron Katie: Nazi's burning Jewish babies was the work of "God"
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Also, for many people who are NOT into SGI, their mind can still "catastrophize". that is, for neutral, or unknown future events, the mind seems to naturally go to the negative scenario, and imagine it might happen, thus making the person anxious. So a person is on a new job, doing a very good job, yet their self-doubt creeps into their minds, and they start fearing they are going t
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Thanks for the first hand insider report. Its interesting how some of those inside a cultish sect, who have doubts about the Dear Leader, will rationalize the Gurus "crazy" behavior by saying its just a way to get a message across, or something like that. You hear many times from Vegans who cross-promote Ching Hai, that even though Ching Hai is manipulating people, she is doing it &
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Have known some people who are in SGI who have some "issues" in the mental health area, and some of them really went overboard with the SGI-chanting. One person was chanting, and not getting what they want out of life, and things were getting worse. So this person was getting more and more anxious, and started to chant longer, and faster and faster. Eventually the person had a mental
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Quotesimplify The trouble is that the chanting actually helps to suspend one's critical faculties, so it is very hard to really look at the evidence unless you stop chanting. $GI has very clever techniques to make sure it's members keep chanting 'no matter what' - which means they are prevented from thinking critically. There is no question, it is a hard FACT, that SGI in
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Yes, it could be a type of cultish apologetics, where they try to reframe the cultish group simply as a "religion". Or the article writer could just be incredibly naive or blind to the facts of reality? SGI is mainly a gigantic global financial corporation controlled by the Ikeda family, who are multibillionaires. SGI does not want you to think about that though. SGI does not wa
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Yes! Give SGI $10,000 a year and you will be rich!! You see, this is how it works. You work hard at your job, and then you take your 10K and give it to Ikeda, so Ikeda can dump another 10K into his pile of billions of dollars. You can never have enough billions of dollars, Ikeda knows that. By giving Ikeda 10K a year, you have 10K less, so you are richer! Don't invest that 10K your
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Soka Gakkai in Japan, by Levi McLaughlin. Does this dissertation get into the....SGI MONEY? Like...the SGI BILLIONS in investments, real estate, and their entire global financial empire? Which are all controlled by the Ikeda family? If not, why not? Naive? blind to reality? With SGI you gotta follow the money, start with the money, and end with the money. Its like the Wizard of Oz
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Very good to put this on the record of Michael Gottlieb.
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--------------------------- QUOTE FROM ONLINE POSTING for ARCHIVE purposes. ------------------------------ InTheSun: "Is the coaching program "Breaking Through" with Jim Zarvos a money making scam? Do they force you to recruit? My friend went through this seminar and he has been acting very strange. He acts more like a pushy salesman than a person. We can't talk about a
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Read the fine print of the contract or ticket. See what it says about refunds. First, use the carrot perhaps. Appeal to the LGAT leaders sense of "honor" by having the "integrity" to refund your money for a service he did not offer. ...When that fails...and it will fail.... If a person does NOT give a service for a fee paid, they have broken the contract. So a customer
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Another classic LGAT scam. Notice all the exact same patterns, banning note-taking, breaking people down psychologically, verbal abuse, scams around not refunding of money. All the same stuff. If someone who has sold you a service is violating their agreement, a Chargeback on the credit card can be used. Or an application in small claims court, to get the refund. Make it harder and more
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Some have asked, where to find some books that might be helpful a bit, that are not just upselling LGAT seminars and crap like Robbins and the self-help scammers? There are some decent books and materials of course. These 2 books are free at most libraries, and have good reviews. Of course, one doesn't need to run off and buy anything, just go to the library. Mind Over Mood by Greenbe
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- Robbins does not use a bibliography! He claims he thought everything up himself! - he does promote various other books and programs, but just as cross-marketing. - Unlimited Power is just copying NLP. - Awaken the Giant is NLP using different words NAC, so the NLP founders could not sue him. Literally. NAC, Neuro-Associative Conditioning is complete bullshit Robbins pulled out of his ____
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Some very good questions above, of course it would take a long time for detailed answers. These days, all of the products mentioned can in fact be dowloaded from things like Torrents on the internet. But even if they are free, are they useful or harmful? Robbins has not thought of ANYTHING of his own. If anyone can find one original thing in anything Robbins does, please post it. Its all j
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From experience, when SGI members are doing this, using the lure of sex to try and convert you to SGI fake-Buddhism, they consciously are not in fact doing it only for SGI. They seem to be doing it for what they believe is their own "karma". So in this case, it could be the SGI members/sisters believed that by getting men to join SGI by using flirty-fishing, they were going to impro
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This thread has made hundreds/thousands possibly, start to ask questions about SGI. Most likely, even many SGI true believers read it, from the privacy of their home, and reflect. How do people leave SGI? By just telling and reading the truth about SGI. There are no deprogramming techniques even needed. Just read the FACTS about SGI, and that will do it for many people. Of course many ot
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Many people would argue that classical Buddhism is "atheist"! But most would agree that this thread is mainly about SGI and the problems with SGI. Getting into technical and philosophical sidebars about "God" and all that stuff is cleary off-topic, right? The problem with SGI is not the "Buddhist" part of SGI, if there is anything Buddhist left in SGI. The p
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well, since is this not a cult, then everyone is free to post different positions, and people can read them and think about them at their leisure. :-) What you are saying has been voiced in other threads, on other cults. That is, some of the criticism seems too harsh, and will turn off soft-believers. So if that is the case, others can voice another viewpoint. But for example, posting an o
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