Actually I have come to a more nuanced conclusion, one that I would never have a year or two ago. This is: the anti-cultist and the cultist can be equal but opposite neurotics. Not that they are. Not every participant in LGAT is, ipso faco, a neurotic, not is every one who speaks contra the cult phenomenon a "counter-neurotic".... Strange too, that the culture at large has pretty
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It is amusing and sad to see how little you know... how stupid and confused and full of self satisfied ignorance... ME.. a Lekkie,, are you fucking kidding ???...,. boy I hope your clients don't pay money for your thoughts, you should pay them to endure your boring non intellect... sad joke of a failure! Earthworm! Bacteria! Diseased gland! Educated... you educated... where ? Dog food univer
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That is because you don't know how to think. Nobody taught you how to think. All your brain has in reserve is the minimal contents of someone who has never had an original thought.... just the confused, deer looking at headlights, "i don't know, i am so confused please somebody take my little hand and think for me... all these terrible WORDS, filled with such confusing IDEAS...
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Why don't YOU start doing some serious analytic, critical thought instead of brushing off a real discussion with something so freaking inane as "cool it"" ???? (I OWN YOU BRAIN!!!!!)... why don't YOU "hot it" and start using your brain in an active way ? Why are you so ready to chicken out, withdraw, turn everything back into a low key, no th
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Get this and get this well... and if you don't get it you're missing a gigantic piece of the puzzle, the missing element, the slippery factor, the line that connects the dots, the hidden force under the foundation... which is this.... LGATs have had a substantially degenerative effect on our collective quality of mind, how we think, the way we go about the processes of thinking have bee
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Wankus Mulch ! Our house Libertarian and Genius who defends the cause ! Wankus, Wankus, Wankus... what will we do with you ? Too much California fringe politiks does something to the mind.... something disturbing... Lookie here oh mighty sword of righteousness that thou art.... :arrow: regardless of your Politiks, :arrow: your unresolved issues with authority figures... :arrow: or whateve
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The sad truth is that it may have gotten embedded deep in some elements of Washington and Neo-Conservative culture... many have noted strage and telling simiarities between Donald Rumsfeld's utterifications and Wernerspeak... a downrtight scary parallel... especially with his grossly unrealistic conviction that we would "transform" the Middle East.... oh but how, Mr. Secret
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Department of Hi Integrity Tidbits Department, subdirectorate of Authenticity, district of Headaches, Rackets, Fuck Yous, and getting Off Ytt: "When it comes to attracting celebrity wealth seeking shelter from taxes, the Cayman Islands and other classic Caribbean tax havens are receding in favor like so many waves on the beach, according to tax experts here and overseas. While old-sch
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Good Golly ! What do you imagine they needed all those opaque offshore accounts for ? Netherlands Antilles ? It all seems so..... complicated... so.... hard to track... ummmm... being Higher Intergrity Than Thou and all that... ya have to sorta wonder.... what's with the evasive, slippery, hard to get your arms around.... ahhhh... structure here ? Why was this necessary ?
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For the answer to that, you need to examine one of the core beliefs, said core belief being that words create being which creates reality... so based on this theory, if one "declares" wisdom... I suppose by repeatedly saying "wisdom.....wisdom....wisdom".. then, somehow, as if by magick, "wisdom" will be manifested... that's why they thin
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Ohhh Pullleeeeeeze..... you notice these enlightenment hustlers NEVER say what it is they actually do, or know, or purport to "install" ? I really think this burgeoning belching behemoth of arglebarle, doubletalk, woojie voodoo, hogwash, and mental assgass is the sign of collective desperation....
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Oh Yeah Baby.... soooooo.... what does all this verbiage MEAN ? Don't ask..... haven't we been down Blather Alley with Werner RosnenEST and Personal Empowerment Highway with Tony Robbins and God Alone Knows What Else ? Read on you lucky sod: "You can become a trained, certified and fully supported Business Improvement Specialist™. This opportunity is available for p
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Holy Freaking Crap! I just looked at the CHE website for his "basic" NLP training..... oh yeah baby, this piece of work wants 4,500 Pound Sterling, which is about $10,000 USD for his level 1 course.... Please, please, please explain to me why anyone should pay this man $10,000.... and even better... do you GET Chris Howard himself ? Wellllllll..... errr.... you get the Chris
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Hate to break the news to you... having been a long time student and sometimes teacher of NLP myself... I have decided to dissociate myself from the "NLP Industry" because of several critically important points: 1. The supervision and quality control in NLP falls somewhere between depressingly mediocre and total shit. If you've found a way to deliver a quality training t
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Con artists are constantly learning from each other.
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Quote Well that charge was thrown out of court if memory serves and his daughter admitted to being paid to say those things Ummmm.... what "charge" are you referring to exactly.... I mean, if you say "charge", you then are saying that a criminal proceeding was initiated in a jurisdiction, and that Jack W. Rosenberg would have been compelled to present himself
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Well, heck I was raised in a devout Christian family and that has never caused me to be offended in the slightest if someone wants to criticise Christianity.... to my way of thinking, and the way we were taught, true Christianity is about looking deep into oneself and sometimes painful self assessment, and above all, it is about the concept of "re-dedication"... you know your fa
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Right.... the flaming arrogance of these pompous little twits.... putting themselves up on a pedestal, as if they were authorities on the subject of sex, love, and all the nuanced things that happen in the vacinity of sex, love, passion, loyalty, friendship..... I've learned one major lesson in life, well, at least one, and that is this.... the most intimate human connections cannot ever be
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Some things never change. They did that same crap in the EST training 25 years ago.... so much for their highly touted "state of the art technology"...... Now, I invite you to see what happens is you have the temerity to ask the trainer HOW one distinguishes between a "real symptom" and a "racket"... I can tell you right now, with 100% c
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Isn't this what a sound education is supposed to do ? Is out basic educational infrastructure dysfunctional if it doesn't build strong thinking, critical, rational minds ? The great struggles of reason over superstition were fought for what ? To return us to the swamps of superstition and emotionalism ? Sometimes I hear or read horror stories of how courts function in countries wi
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Everybody uses them now. The most oppressive is one that the NLP guru Richard Bandler and the people associated with him demand: They say that it is a "licencing agereement" and you will not teach NLP, or "anything related to NLP" (the meaning of that is entirely up to them) without taking one of their Trainer Trainings EVERY TWO YEARS... And... you agree
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Well, here we are in Dot-Com Bust II, otherwise known as the mortgage industy collapse.... word was out that a lot of these often very dubious, regulation skirting lenders, brokers, banks, and homebuilders, not to mention hedge funds (some of which have fully imploded, many others are in varying degree of implosion) were behaving like mini-cults.... I believe that there are periods when entir
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The backgound chatter regarding "corporate culture" and LGAT dynamics is getting.... mmmm.... a wee bit eyebrow raising. For example, one of the unspoken rules of screening job applicants for corporate positions is that anyone who has stepped outside of the corporate structure for two years or more will never again fit into a hierarchy, and the candidate won't be given further c
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Corporations and large private employers are constantly on the lookout for quick fixes... I've interacted with numerous senior corporate personalities, and have been struck by their combination of sophisticated reasoning in areas like finance, compensation, acquisition, regulatory compliance.... often combined with their striking naivete (this normally comes from being well insulated from da
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It is anti-thinking that saves the cult-lgat-guru from the difficult work of explaining how the cult-lgat-guru does its' stuff.... if everything is thrown back into the domain of the perceiver, a la "what you perceive is what you achieve".. then the spiffy self improvement folks don't have to take responsibility when the progam doesn't live up to it's biling.... the
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Ever since little Jack R. had his near fatal head injury as a child it seems that his thought processes might be a hair off base... frequently, because they lack ordinary sense of restraint, some of the brain injured project a bizarre "illusion of profound clarity".... I've actually seen this myself in clinical settings where, in one case, a major business figure, a fellow who gave
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Hate to tell you this.... all of these growthie groups lard their discourse with heaping scoops of "ethics".... oh, but should you bore down into how their "ethics" differ from normal human decency, you'll find yourself knee deep in a new swamp of definitions... their "ethics", you see, aren't your garden variety "ethics".... they're a specia
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There a couple of things you need to "get" about Werner Rosenberg von FrostSavage... The first is his near total lack of originality..... Werner was (and still is ?) an astoundingly derivative "thinker" to use that term loosely.... Werner did have a gift, and that gift was for pastiche, which means glomming together a bunch of not-too-well understood concepts from just about
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Let's see what happens when the trainer-foon stands up in front of a bunch of Iraq vets and diligently explains to them how they "created" the Iraq war by their "listening".... You see, master sargeant, you were listening for that kid to have his head shot off and explode brains all over the inside of your humvee, and PTSD, well, that's a pathetic racket for not t
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At present... there has been an overwhelming tendency for "self improvement semiarians"... well above and beyond the Landmarkians, to require the customer (regardless of what language evasion they use to disguise this basic business fact of customer-to-vendor) to sign away as many rights, recourses, and protections as they can induce one to do. You simply cannot attend most of the po
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