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16 years ago
nutrino
Human life and human reality is infinitely complex. The human mind seeks ways of reducing this complexity to managable simplicity. The "good faith" schools of thought are honest about their own limitations, which is to say reducing complexity also entails "throwing out some of the baby with the bathwater"... The "bad faith" schools of thought insist (and insist
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16 years ago
nutrino
QuoteMartinH Forum leaders are sometimes very tough, it's more about their power and the power of their method. Understand, and know it well.... often the mentally unbalanced have a seductive clarity about their expression.... the inner condition of a Forum Leader after a long indoctrination process ? Following in the footsteps of the hyperkinetic, charismatic, and seemingly nuts Jack Rose
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16 years ago
nutrino
QuoteMartinHLanmark is not about money , it's about transformation :twisted: Oh ? Transformation into what, pray tell ?
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17 years ago
nutrino
A good deal of the attraction to LGATs is the simplifying fable... often this fable is packaged as a philosophy or a cosmic insight... it still functions on the emotional level as a fable. Landmark's teaching or "body of knowledge" is base on two contradictory, mutually negating fables, which may explain the confusions reported by some who attent these types of seminars. 1. T
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17 years ago
nutrino
It is an exceedingly idiotic theory about the nature of realty... because it is based on this massive assumption... there is "what really happened" which is equally true whether we're talking about the most hard physical events or the most imprecise personal events. In other words this moron-philosphizing fails to, worse, willfully refuses to engage the question whether certain sit
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17 years ago
nutrino
It appears to be normal practice these days... the formula is take the appearance or vocabulary of an ancient tradition, a tradtion grounded in the reality of a culture that has nothing to do with a modern industrial-technological culture... preferably one that requires colored robes, or mesmerizing cosmologies, or a wonderous palette of new "distinctions"... and oh, these distinctions.
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17 years ago
nutrino
Also seems telling that the website has nearly 70,000 hits.... which is telling us something...
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17 years ago
nutrino
Thing is... the True Believers all sound the same when their imaginations, more to the point, their striking lack of imagination, is threatened.... What come to mind here is this guy, whoever he is, must be coming from a place of damn strong conviction to go public with his complaint... and the perverse logic is that he represents the exact set of virtues that Tony himself extolls... unstoppab
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17 years ago
nutrino
hahahahahahahaaaaa.... live with passion !
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17 years ago
nutrino
This appears to be a common, perhaps inevitable side effect of constantly being the center of attention, the recipient of endless torrents of praise, flattery, adulation... I have heard through backchannels that the managers of professional music acts now routinely arrange for professional sex workers (i.e. hookers) at each stop because of the risks of abuse claims, paternity suits, stories leake
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17 years ago
nutrino
Meanwhile, Dr. Phil calls Scientology... eventually this will loop back to Landmark Education... somehow... we are confident it will:
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17 years ago
nutrino
yeah... eating weeners on a bun with no condiments ! Have I met these guys before ? Like, leading the 6 day, wazzit ?
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17 years ago
nutrino
And this is your brain afterwards...
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17 years ago
nutrino
just for fun.... compare the above referenced Exhibit A, weenerism, with this one, Exhibit B.... Is it just me, or is there a disturbing similarity between these two ?
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17 years ago
nutrino
You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground ? You don't know what is real ? Go get 'em, weener man.
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17 years ago
nutrino
You were referring to this nutcase ?
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17 years ago
nutrino
NLP is not exactly "a tool"... it is more akin to a toolbox filled with various instruments derived from a multitude of sources, many of those sources WERE established therapists who Richard and John "modelled", or att,mpted to extract the purest essence of what made Erickson, Satir, Farrelly, Bateson, and others tick... so NLP itself IS in many ways a set of derivitaves of hi
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17 years ago
nutrino
NLP is nothing more than a way of refining behavioral and perceptual nuances, and understanding, to some extent, how external experience is mapped in the brain, and if luck, how to change that map for the better... There are at least three major caveats when dealing with the NLP dog'n'pony show: 1. Now that a few trainers are making serious money with this, and the majority are no
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17 years ago
nutrino
This is most strange to me... in all of my ESThole days and advanced ESThole coursework... I knew of no person who could, would, or did associate with the Trainers outside of the ESTholian context... my assumtion is that these "recreations" of The Great Weener had no time in their lives for what most of us would consider "unstructured social time"... however, one fellow in an
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17 years ago
nutrino
The UK appear to be going through a suggestibility phase at the moment... not unlike the American suggestibility phase of the 1970s... there are lots and lots of NLP "masters" who have left the US and teach mostly to enthusiastic, credulous, and well paying crowds, what they can hardly drum up one seminar per year in the USA... nobody can figure this out, but the Brits are flocking to
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17 years ago
nutrino
According to the Tadster from his own website: Since the introduction of the Line Therapy® Techniques in 1988 in the book Time Line Therapy and the Basis of Personality, there has been, not only excitement about the techniques themselves, but also major interest by the psychotherapeutic community and a rather rapid adoption of the process by people actively involved in seeing clients daily f
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17 years ago
nutrino
Quotekath You've heard this done before a few times then Nutrino lol :D I sincerely wish only a few... NLP has become a breeding ground for all manner of hypnotistes , "human plasma generators" , and those who speak great wisdom couched in the deepest of mysteries... and very fond of scary contracts and documents too... there is a great power struggle behind the scenes as to who
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17 years ago
nutrino
Well, Tad has grown, maybe he hasn't grown... I can't say one way or the other... attended a seminar of his with an emphasis on Timelines, long time back... walked out before the end of day 1... it stunk, it was boooooring, Tad was uncontrollably laughing nonstop, as if this were his best birthday party... the crowd was schmucky.... complete schnooks... so there you have my highly biase
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17 years ago
nutrino
What you need to understand....noowwwww.... is that almost all discussion of Timelines and Timeline Therapy IS evasive generalization... once the NLP playbook had become overused, new "discoveries" had to be made....... so new books, seminars, and learning materials could be marketed to the publique.... there is not one shred of evidence that the brain contains timelines... so how in th
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17 years ago
nutrino
Another unproven, probably unprovable NLP concept. The concept itself appears harmless enough. NLP is stuffed with hooey and hokum that is then sold to the general public as a newly discovered, life changing technology. Since NLP itself has devolved into small marketing feidfdoms, each apparently hellbent of asserting its' particular trinket bag of minor innovation as The True Vessel, one sh
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17 years ago
nutrino
Whoooooo..... how healthy is this ?: " August 14, 1983, Incident Jack Slee died on August 14, 1983, while standing on the stage of the Park Plaza Hotel's Grand Ballroom in New Haven, Connecticut. When the first responders arrived in the form of the New Haven fire rescue squad, the firefighters were initially prevented from entering the ballroom to treat Slee: A New Haven fire e
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17 years ago
nutrino
QuoteChristopher John As a fairly learned student of life, I could not deal with Landmark's simplistic descriptions of the cause and effect of the human condition. To base an entire "way of being" on three happenings extracted in time in one's life was stinky science. Remember one thing... they are a business. As a business they have a strong proprietary interest in &q
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17 years ago
nutrino
Real hidden history, unbalanced ravings, first hand information or hearsay ? No indication of the writer's sources, how carefully he substantiated this information, who told him, when did he learn this, had he ever personally met Rosenhard ?, etc. : "This Erhard fellow received 100s of hours of Scientology processing, in the late 60s, which culminated with a severe run-in with the Ch
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