Thanks for your feedback Cos always appreciated. It is and it isn't ironic that I want to explore Landmark now, I mean, reading through past posts isn't everyone here an "ex" devotee to some LGAT? You, me, Guy, gc4062... it's the realization then discovering how and why it happened that's fascinating. I still find Tony fascinating now, probably in the same way you
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Rookie, That's an interesting opinion. Let's distinguish the particles of that opinion. Cynicism= (attitude>=not attitude) Skepticism = (=or (not=) health) Therefore, Skeptical times Landmark = good. Cynicism times anything = (nil +or- small amount of X). I think you're confused about logic. I get confused about it too. I'm not an expert on the subject o
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Rookie is right on about motivating factors. LEC uses that knowledge of human motivation to garner revenue The center staff of LEC is incredibly low paid. The work on salary and average somewhere around 70 hours per week. We get so hooked on the mind virus that we forego reason. Money was not the impelling influence for me to go to work for LEC and become an employee. I was making way more mon
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Thanks everyone for the warm welcomes. gc4062--one correction to your post. I was never on staff, but I led introductions for over 3 years....
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Hi everyone. Thanks for the welcomes. It's nice to be part of a group where varied viewpoints are encouraged. Guess I'll just start by answering people's questions. Dutch--yes, there was an incident that triggered my decision to quit and there were lots of other things such as being pestered to increase my # of agreements, etc. that ultimately had me just pick up and say no
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Quotegc4062 Guy, The ones who realized what was really going on were the ones who dropped out of the program before it finished, and never returned. Those were the smart ones. Sheesh GC.... I often wish I was that smart.:( I feel bad for express. We're attacking something she holds very dear to her, although I know she already has her nagging doubts about it. She sees the consista
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GC4062, Your numbers are right on as far as I remember. There was a standing "recommendation" to review the Forum for staff. I can't remember if it was every 6 months or yearly. Addendum...staff is not allowed to take outside courses without permission also. Hope, It may be very possible that the "sharers" were mostly reviewers. Those that shared always got "
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Quotegc4062 rrmoderator, thank you! Perhaps now we can return to the original posting of this thread. With the assorted flamers lately, most every thread begun has been hijacked off the original topic, or has gone off on so many tangents as to nearly become unreadable. Hope, back to your original question... Statistically, each forum can contain up to 15% reviewers. Is it correct th
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QuoteOriginally posted by gc4062 .......In my travels between centers..... What did you do GC, that you travelled between centers? Were you one of the teachers?
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Answer to your question: I don't give out personal information. You were in the ILP back in May. At least that is what you posted 5/8/03. So you're being disingenuous in your responses to #'s 2 & 3. Let's cut to the chase, everyone knows you're here to discredit those that speak out about LEC and distract the threads. It's simple. I can understa
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QuoteOriginally posted by corboy in the US.. > Before you start your group, chris, I advise having some private e-mail conversations with Guy and gc4062. You need to safeguard the privacy of your group and protect yourself from vindictive lawsuits. Landmark is probably quite upset by the things we are revealing on this site, and they're quite capable of sending people to infiltra
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Corboy and Dutch - thanks for the welcome guys. I ~declare~ I am ~being~ a ~stand~ for the ~possibility~ of a group here in London for ex-Landmarker staff and volunteers and those in recovery from Landmark. Maybe someone in the UK will read this and we can get together. In the meantime, I salute this site, afl, freedomofmind and R&R as great places for survivors to hook up and support
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My experience to a tee. Thanks for taking the time to post. I know how long it took you. I'll cheat by reposting yours. The constant rereading drives me crazy. It takes hours for me to post. These are symptoms of PTSD....Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Quotegc4062 Before my involvement with landmark, the courses, and as a staff member and program leader, I was in a career which re
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hello kico, great to have another person participating who knows the scoop from the inside. I'm sure you've read some of the posts from Guy and GC4062, both former staff members. Excellent to know there's someone else out there who's willing to inform. As far as survivors groups, I've been looking for the same thing here in Amsterdam. Maybe we should put togethe
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QuoteOriginally posted by gc4062 First of all, the initial posting by $375lighter is more accurate than many may know. As a recovering former staff member, and member of our local survivors' group of former staffers, seminar leaders, volunteers and many others, I can honestly say that I can agree with everything posted to date. Hi, I’m new here, been around on afl and R&R
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Before my involvement with landmark as a staff member, I was in a career which required me to ingest a large volume of information on a daily basis. On a typical morning, I would read four or five newspapers front to back, and would throughout the day zip through a number of other documents and an average of 200 e-mails per day. What follows is what a few other former program leaders and staf
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You're kidding, right? Come on, Jack. I love this part: (I'm not even sure this thread wil get past the moderator.) If Rick didn't censor Rude Dawg, what makes even say that except for spin value? What part of what GC4062 and I have been telling you, do you resist most? Geez.....:rolleyes: Guy
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Thanks for sharing!:D Wow, you went in slumped over, uncomfortable with people, nervous, and introverted and came out "comfortable with people, relaxed and outgoing, that I was trying new things and even my posture changed to a more upright bearing." That's awesome! That stuff's not even in the brochure. I must be all wrong then. GC4062....go home apostate! What w
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Quotepatrick-darcy i believe the rants and rave place is still up. its linda place. her husband things im a genius u know. :) Thanks. I just found it here: Everybody! You have GOT to check out the resident forum apologist/cheerlead at the above forum, Jim Tsutsui. This guy is like the Darth Vader of forum fanatics. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Guy, gc4062, Hope let me know if you ever
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Quotegc4062 Hi SS, Coming from your knowledge of hypnosis, would you not think NLP is something along the same lines? I know when I did IFLP, there were quite a few followers/instructors of NLP in the program, and frankly, every time someone mentions NLP, I get that feeling similar to a sudden bowel movement (crude but effective). Watching some of these people add a mastery to their mani
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QuoteJackSF I'm fascinated by Guy's posts about hypnosis and trance techniques used in Landmark programs. I would love to hear more specifics about this and more general manipulations. I've noticed a fair number myself. A: When a forum leader says "this is just ONE WAY ONLY of looking at things, it is NOT THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH" he is using a disarming technique so that y
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Quotegc4062 Hi SS, I look forward to the balance of the 16 points. What I posted for you is just a launching point for discussion. With the other folks who are regular posters here, we can flesh it out even further. Methinks we are about to open up the book of dirty tricks for all to see ;) I too am very curious to see what insights and experiences Guy, Hope, and others have to share.
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Quotegc4062 Hi SS, Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to get a copy and give them a read through. It would be interesting to see if this could counter or remove the implanted programming. Of course, the one thing I was told over and over growing up "what goes around comes around" ... I just hope I'm around when the stuff that landmark has been doing to people comes b
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Quotegc4062 Corboy, In your research, did you find any mention of how to remove an implanted meme? Here's the thing I want to know... if I have any residual affects of my time in landmark, how do I get it outta there? (Guy, maybe you have some insights into this as well?) To use your computer analogy, maybe I need a memory defrag :) Thanks! Hi gc4062: Your question got m
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Hi gc4062!, Holy smokes! That is some fascinating stuff! I'll post a more lengthy reply once I've had a chance to reread your post a couple of time and mull it over. You've given me much food for thought. I don't feel I can do it justice just right now so I'll take a rain check. In the future I will share the subsequent 16 points of seduction as per the "
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Oh Jack, Originally posted by JackSF "Nonetheless, I'm not interested in being addressed directly about my psychology or my naivete or my deludedness or whatever. " Oh really? Do you remeber this? "Guy -- Call me naive, but I have the idea..." You are adding the "psychology", "deludedness" or "whatever" to the thread. You a
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hi gc4062, thanks for your resonse. I've looked around the amsterdam area for survivors groups but can't find anything. LEC hasn't been here that long. I've also asked around with mental health pros' but nobody knows anything. Question about your group: how do you keep it from being a rant-fest? Or is that the point? Just to get it off your chest and laugh at
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"I got so focused on doing the work that my career suffered... to the point that I eventually the only option open to me was to go on staff..." Read that again... "I got so focused on doing the work that my career suffered... to the point that I eventually the only option open to me was to go on staff..." Again... "I got so focused on doing the work that my c
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To GC4062, I haven't gotten their shit out of my head yet. Sorry, I wish I could tell you differently. It makes me want to blow my head off. Some days are spent wrestling the voices I here internally from the programming. This shit has ruined countless friendships, relationships with family and my career. My reputation is forever smeared with their filth. I wish I could say I was more po
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GC4062 is not joking. If anything he is being "nice". "...expect to be processed severely by your centre manager and/or regional manager (some compare the experience to being accused of serial murder and getting a certain treatment to extract a confession)... by the time you are finished with, you're begging forgiveness for being a bad and horrible human being for not prod
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