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12 years ago
The Anticult
You wonder if the Loving Hut in Saigon changed their videos due to customer complaints? That might be an effective strategy, to complain to the owner about the cultish Ching Hai videos, enough complaints and they might have to change it.
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12 years ago
The Anticult
Groups like Scientology use that technique, not with a restaurant, but they get people in to watch videos, and try to stretch it out for hours, to the point of signing you up for a course. But its good news some Loving Huts are not playing SMTV reruns, if they want to break away from Ching Hai, they could just use the screens to play music and things customers want to hear. But this is the
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
You're maybe right, but before making such accusation we may check if the service is so slow in lots of Loving Hut. If not then it can simply be due to the staff quality. The Loving Hut I've tried were not particulary slow to serve customers. The one in Paris is quite slow, but which french restaurant isn't? ;) The one in Hanoi is very very fast (but they don't even ask y
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12 years ago
corboy
Found some material on some restaurant review sites. On Yelp when people reviewed the Loving Hut in Phoenix, Arizona, they made the following commments. Many of the people who describe eating at Loving Huts comment on the following: *Having to wait a long time for their food. *The TV with the Ching Hai propaganda and in some cases footage of the horrors of factory farming--sure to i
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12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
I think that Einstein being vegan is one of the most minor lies of Ching Hai (and a part of the vegan community). And this lie is not harmful. That's just vegan masturbation. The reallity of breatharianism (whom Ching Hai endorse as many other new age freaks) is far more dangerous. Idem for the necessity of selling one's house before the end of the world. Recently I've been
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12 years ago
corboy
The other day, I walked past a Loving Hut restaurant. In the window was a poster with the portrait of Albert Einstein. The poster alleged that Professor Einstein was vegatarian. Turning to Google, there is no clear consensus on Einstein having been vegetarian, let alone vegan. This biography states that after Einstein moved to Princeton and taught at the Institute of Advanced Studies, f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
greenleaf
Master and Money --- one of my old articles Master Claimed that Money is the pavement in the heaven. I remember it was 2007 Chinese New Year Retreat in Tai Wan, We have been told to hold a little flag formed up a huge line on both sides of the road, we waited about one hour in the shower rain, when master’s Car finally drove through, it was a Big Mercedes-Benz, one important Politian was s
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12 years ago
The Anticult
Will Tuttle gets an A+ in hypocrisy. Will Tuttle criticizing VegNews, when he is in bed with Ching Hai?? Deceiving the public is bad when anyone does it. The level of hypocrisy by Will Tuttle is almost unbelievable. --------------quote from Will Tuttle on vegsource.com----------- "Thanks, VegSource, for telling it like it is! VegNews has done a real disservice - this series of act
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Ching Hai has had her money and her fingers in EarthSave.org for quite some time. Even before EarthSave was openly on Ching Hai's payola list, their senior managers were defending Ching Hai. kissing up = big financial gifts from Ching Hai. Notice all the "vegans" who are shilling for Ching Hai, are on Ching Hai's gravy train? Ching Hai is giving their groups money, or bo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
corboy
Brillat-Savarin the great French food writer famously said 'Tell me what you eat and I will tell you who you are." Here is a long news article about Ching Hai's Loving Hut restaurants. Note this from the article As far as donations go, the Los Angeles Center for the Association is registered with the federal government as a 501(c)3 tax-exempt entity, as are many other Hai
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12 years ago
corboy
These days the hot new concept appears to be vegan restaurants. Used to be vegetarian restuarants run on cheap labor donated by devotees (for free or at low pay) was the way to go. (eg Chinmoy. Muktananda's people had a restaurant in Oakland California reportedly famed for its superb vegetarian food.) Now its vegan restaurants. Being vegetarian isnt enough anymore. And being raw vegan
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Its the typical stance of trying to minimize the damage created by these con-women cultish leaders. In fact, the focus needs to be on exactly WHO they are damaging. Who is getting scammed? Who are the people who are getting conned into selling their houses and businesses, and handing over all their money to Ching Hai Inc? And these celebrities should be ashamed of themselves. When they ge
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuotedynamicRun the link through google translate to get the jist of the thing. Basically, in Vietnam, SMCH is totally underground except in the semi progressive city of Saigon. It's illegal to be a cult follower(of any cult) in a communist society. Even in Saigon, Loving Huts/vegan resturants affiliated and run by followers of SMCH do not list it as such and there is no SMCH propoganda o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
corboy
For an atheist, I have what one might consider an odd obsession: new religious movements. San Francisco has a long history of birthing or coddling them and many would argue that these entities are spiritual rather than religious – just like many a San Franciscan. But that doesn't mean that the leader or organization doesn't proselytize, promise some form of ecstatic or liberating ca
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
greenleaf
----Madam Ching Hai’s Wedding Vdieo disappeared from youtube?!---- To me, this video along with the comments over 2 years is my silent healing method after I madly followed this so called Master for 6 years and struggled myself out for nearly two years (delete 30000000 emotional words here). From the arguments that disciples made with the video (or from disciples’ comments with her Amazon boo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Critics Claim Supreme Master Ching Hai's Followers' Restaurants Featuring Tasty Vegan Fare Front For an Exploitive Movement. By Stephen Lemons Thursday, Jun 2 2011 ---------------------------------------------- Interesting article, which seems to be written from the perspective of Veganism, with lots of detail about the food. Its important, actually, to separate Veganism from Ch
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
Good news! A huge article (8 pages) about Ching Hai and Loving Hut have been published yesterday on Poenix New York Times : Critics Claim Supreme Master Ching Hai's Followers' Restaurants Featuring Tasty Vegan Fare Front For an Exploitive Movement. Scott Anderson I still didn't have time to read it, but it should be interesting.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Koldin
Quotepuresoul All the charity/money donations are just actions to deflect the criticism of her money scam matter as well as to promote her god like status.. All the awards issued from SMCH to particularly politicians/celebraties are just PR work for chinghai. This is exactly correct as ching hai is very skilled in this money scam business, milking her poor disciples of everything to the po
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
A few recent things about Ching Hai... The VegNews scandal Quote* April 15th, 2011 12:12 pm ET By Ed Coffin Vegan Culture Examiner VegNews, a mainstream vegan publication, has always had a somewhat rocky relationship with vegans. They've been criticized in the past for commending Whole Foods and dubiously speculating against Supreme Master. Well, vegans are now downrigh
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13 years ago
Koldin
QuoteOcean_Of_Lieshttp:/ /www. contactdirectavecdieu .org is back, and I don't notice any change. It was maybe just a technical problem. http:/ /www. godsimmediatecontact .com/ is still down. Hi Ocean_Of_Lies, Most likely these ching hai site shutdowns are not just coincidences as culteducation.com reveals ever more details of this cult. At least one of their sites www.godsdir
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13 years ago
The Anticult
Those are interesting comments, clearly by some of Ching Hai's western followers, probably those involved with the restaurants, as that is their focus. You can see that they go to the SLAUGHTERHOUSE very quickly. This is because through Ching Hai, they have repeatedly watched the most cruel, terrible slaughterhouse videos, over and over again. This will traumatize people, and as part of
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13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
QuoteThe AnticultChing Hai has also created a marketing system to go mainstream. For example, her slogan, --- Be Veg, Go Green 2 Save the Planet! --- that is absolutely brilliant Ching Hai mass media marketing. Because, in this day and age, who is against Going Green and saving the planet? Who is against eating more Veggies? So this gives Ching Hai a perfect cover to try t
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13 years ago
The Anticult
The Supreme Master Ching Hai's masterplan to use organic Veganism as a way into the mainstream, is having some impact. There are even Vegans who say to "ignore" the Ching Hai propaganda at the Loving Hut, and just buy the food to support Veganism. (some of those might be Ching Hai followers, while others are just not aware of how it works). That is wrong on so many levels. Firs
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13 years ago
puresoul
QuotedynamicQuoteThe Anticult Ms Ching Hai knows this 100%. That is why Ms Ching Hai bans people taking in information from other groups. Ching Hai wants total information control. She wants you to watch only her TV station, books, and media. ... Its interesting that you bring that up. A couple of years ago, I think 3 or so, SMCH rolled out what she called "merit points" where by do
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13 years ago
puresoul
Quotedynamic Its interesting that you bring that up. A couple of years ago, I think 3 or so, SMCH rolled out what she called "merit points" where by doing certain activities, one would gain more merit points for "liberation". It required some sort of impossible number of merit points to reach the elusive 5th level of enlightement. On it, watching SMTV for hours on end would
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
puresoul
QuotedynamicQuoteThe Anticult Ms Ching Hai knows this 100%. That is why Ms Ching Hai bans people taking in information from other groups. Ching Hai wants total information control. She wants you to watch only her TV station, books, and media. ... Its interesting that you bring that up. A couple of years ago, I think 3 or so, SMCH rolled out what she called "merit points" where by do
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13 years ago
dynamic
QuoteThe Anticult Ms Ching Hai knows this 100%. That is why Ms Ching Hai bans people taking in information from other groups. Ching Hai wants total information control. She wants you to watch only her TV station, books, and media. ... Its interesting that you bring that up. A couple of years ago, I think 3 or so, SMCH rolled out what she called "merit points" where by doing certain
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Yes of course, like most other sects, the regular folks at the bottom, the true believers, the joiners, they really believe the stuff. They don't know anything about cultic recruiting techniques, or international money laundering, or techniques of group persuasion using mass media. They just believe in Ching Hai as they have be conditioned to. The person buying some crummy cheap lamp fro
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
Ocean_Of_Lies
An interesting video which list most of the recent lies of Ching Hai on SMTV : Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association 2010 in Review Timecode of some notable parts : 00:30 : Internatonal Disaster Relief : A long enumeration of all her (probably fake) humanitarian activities. I'd really like to ask disciples if they have ever seen a full documentary showing Ching Hai�
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Another fascinating thing about Ching Hai and her methods. Its truly brilliant for a sect to come up with a special "diet" for their followers, as most sects do, as we all have to eat 3x a day. But if the sect can come up with a special narrow diet, then tell their followers they can eat local, BUT, its better if they order some of the sects specially-made food each month. The food
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