QuoteterrenautI believe that Rest Easy is fulfilling his/her mission which is to get people involved in another "spiritual" discussion and away from the discussion of Chris butler's criminal activities. Chris Butler is a criminal. He can be charged with tax-evasion, hiring 'illegals', avoiding payroll taxes, avoiding payrolls entirely, and a whole slew of questionabl
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QuotedharmabumHere are two more articles from IndiaWest stating that Tulsi is a disciple of Jagad Guru. I just thought I post them for researchers' refs: http://www.indiawest.com/news/6068-hindu-tulsi-gabbard-wins-primary-for-congress-in-hawaii.html http://indiawest.com/news/5825-hindu-tulsi-gabbard-runs-for-congress-in-hawaii.html ... I need to point out once again that Tulsi Gab
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QuoteVera CityFor what it is worth, my contacts are with people who have left the cult two and three decades ago plus some ex kids who are now thirty something. I am sure much has changed while many things have remained the same. So my words are only IMHO (In My Humble Opinion). Regarding the beach incident, first you would need to think of what would be viewed as a "medical procedure&
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I wouldn’t be so confident that the cat is out of the bag regarding the cult background of Tulsi Gabbard. Although I agree it is wrong to denigrate the validity of this forum, we have only forced Tulsi to plant a few obscure articles for future use. She can always deny the facts later since she is never directly quoted as being Hindu or a follower of Chris Butler. However, if the truth does come
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QuotedabcultDear flashlight Its how you said this doctor story ....... it sound out there How do you get such informations ? Why would a doctor call the police ? Is there a clear view of the backyard from the ocean ? You talk about JG receiving an illegal medical procedure ......then accusing him of performing hypnosis illegally . Your not clear .......and if you are not clear y
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Quoteflashlight_on_roachesSomething very curious happened in Lanikai a few days ago on Saturday, August 18, 2012 at one of the oceanfront homes occupied by Chris Butler. Apparently a medical doctor was paddling on the ocean nearby the property and witnessed what he said was an illegal medical procedure being performed on Chris Butler. He called the police who sent several officers to the address
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Something very curious happened in Lanikai a few days ago on Saturday, August 18, 2012 at one of the oceanfront homes occupied by Chris Butler. Apparently a medical doctor was paddling on the ocean nearby the property and witnessed what he said was an illegal medical procedure being performed on Chris Butler. He called the police who sent several officers to the address and were admitted. The doc
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QuotedabcultWhat is needed is a web site .....where the essential gross abuses of disciples of Mr Univers is describe (ex disciples testimonials) I am willing to pay some $$ to get it going if VERA CITY want to manage it (or someone trustwothy amd well spoken as she is ) This forum is great....... but it as become to big and confusing for someone looking for informations. What is neede
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I have not been able to convince some of the regulars here of the need to also work underground. It is imperative to dig much deeper and produce more conclusive proof of this criminal enterprise. Posting publically has been remarkably successful in leading the curious to this message board and informing them of serious allegations. However, no one in the media has yet been willing to publish anyt
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I just found a poignant reminder of why I was so outraged when I first discovered the Lanikai cult and read about them here on this message board. My original outrage was at Chris Butler for all his fraud, manipulation, and for damaging the lives of the very people he should cherish. Read here about one ex-member and his struggle to attend the funeral of his father while being blocked by his cult
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QuoteVoxVeritasVita DasQUOTE: "I think we have just learned that it is not possible to beat Chris Butler on public forums. He operates below the radar and in complete secrecy. There are some interesting strategies that we could consider if we had a non-public forum. Feel free to send me a private message if you want some examples." I agree with some of what you say but I beg to diffe
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Quoteflashlight_on_roachesIt seems certain that Tulsi Gabbard is on her way to Congress for a two year term. My advice is to do nothing until after the general election in November. If she is guilty of campaign finance violations (as many of us believe), that complaint would not be resolved prior to the election. I suppose the Governor could replace her is case of some serious charges, but I don’
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QuoteatheistQuoteflashlight_on_roaches "(What was her family doing in Samoa? Running a scandalous school for Chris Butler)" ...If you have any information about any school that Mike Gabbard ran for Chris Butler in American Samoa, I would be very interested in hearing about it... Sorry, I meant to type a question mark "school for Chris Butler?". In any case, the question came
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It seems certain that Tulsi Gabbard is on her way to Congress for a two year term. My advice is to do nothing until after the general election in November. If she is guilty of campaign finance violations (as many of us believe), that complaint would not be resolved prior to the election. I suppose the Governor could replace her is case of some serious charges, but I don’t expect that to happen si
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Aloha Z: You are very brave and wise. I wish you well in coming to terms with your experience. Please consider making notes of details you recall while they are still relatively fresh in your mind. Names, addresses (using Google maps and street view if you can’t recall), and anything that struck you as odd or curious. It is a good idea to contact Henry. He made a post here telling you how:
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QuotedharmabumI thought I post this. Another regular commenter for Civil Beat, seems to be aware of this forum. www.civilbeat.com Bart Dame · Top Commenter Kay, thanks for your response... Some of Bart Dame’s points are lifted directly from my recent post here: “The Real Tulsi Gabbard” My observations were obvious, but I am glad she/he found this forum and echoed the common concer
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The information debunking Tulsi’s so-called religion is very helpful and confirms that she is now trying to pretend that she has never hidden the fact of her involvement with Chris Butler. That will backfire, of course, when people discover the truth about Butler or he does something really horrible. I’m wondering why no one has yet commented on the disclosures of Rebecca Rogan in the Hawaii F
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Wow! Here is a real gem I just found, and apparently former cult member Rebecca Rogan has the goods on the Gabbards: Here is the text-only version in case it gets deleted since even the so-called Free Press here in Hawaii censors: Friday, August 03, 2012 To Stop Mufi, Mrs Abercrombie Joins the Chris Butler Cult By Andrew Walden :: 1397 Views :: Hawaii State News, Hawaii State Politic
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The Real Tulsi Gabbard Tulsi Gabbard asks voters to believe that she recently but honestly changed her position on many conservative ideologies and matters - just as she began her campaign for Congress. She conveniently is no longer anti-homosexual and supports same-sex marriage, has become a feminist and Pro-Choice, erased her past by divorcing her husband, cult member Eddie Tamayo (that marria
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QuoteatheistQuoteflashlight_on_roaches "I doubt that Mike Gabbard "lost" his interest in DTE when he was boycotted and it appears that DTE parent company, Healthy’s, is controlled by Joseph Bismark (owner of one of Chris Butler’s Lanikai residences)." I don't think that Mike Gabbard (Krishna Katha das) has ever had an "interest" in the Down to Earth Stores o
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I would appreciate some help with evidence of the Gabbards association with Down to Earth and any other health-related businesses including local farms, Noni Connection, etc. The purpose is to determine if Tulsi Gabbard had a conflict of interest. The conflict would exist if she, or any of her family, benefit from these businesses directly or indirectly. I doubt that Mike Gabbard "lost"
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I don't believe that Tulsi Gabbard has ever been directly quoted regarding her Hindu religion or her Jagad Guru, Chris Butler. Even the Times of India does not directly quote her. The comments from that article, once lost, have been located again and here is the link: They are very interesting and indicate that Hawaii is behind the times in researching candidates. "That is be
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This article from Times of India is strange and seems to have been planted. The information regarding that unreliable poll is very old news and in the current poll Hannemann shows 'a healthy margin' over his opponent. The comment about Tulsi being Hindu seems to suggest voters already knew this about Tulsi Gabbard, when in fact this is the first time it has ever been mentioned in the ne
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Tulsi Gabbard is a Hindu: This is a very interesting turn of events. The fact that this story will never be read by most folks in Hawaii (an Indian news source focused on Canada & US) makes it seem that it was planted. She can always state that she wasn’t hiding this little fact plus the media here on Oahu have probably been warned to respect her religious freedom. I know next to nothing a
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Can anyone help me identify cult members and cult businesses listed on Tulsi Gabbard's latest disclosure to the FEC? Thanks!
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I have no idea if Tulsi Gabbard can win this primary, but we should go all-out to inform the voters of her secrets. Her father, Mike Gabbard, was "outed" for his homophobia which did him in for National office. Can anyone suggest a way to get the truth out about Tulsi to the gay community and invite them to upset her victory party? check out my comment at this National web-site:
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Quotedabculthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWE6n6LkyEA Dear flashlight I produce this last video thinking of you and your comments Please correct the link if its not correct one This video focus more on the hypnosis and mind control aspect of the cult .... I hope all of you forum send me or post some comments on the new video ... If you are a disciple of Butler research...........
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QuotedharmabumIt looks like this forum is helping turn votes from Tulsi to Kia'iana because of Xenoscript's DailyKOs diaries; such good reads, very well written. Thanks Rick Ross. http://www.mauinews.com What a great article at Maui News! Thanks to everyone on this message board, for it would not be possible without the many years of research and opinion. Xenoscript's pages a
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Quotedabculthttp://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=zEzIDP5ipFA New video link Its a bit short........but I am directing the public to this web site for more informations More videos later depending on the interest ! Here is a working link to dabcult's latest video: My experience with Hare Krishnas is zilch, so I don't understand this video. It is gr
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A different dailykos link about Tulsi Gabbard's fund raising plus how funneling was done in the past for her Father's campaign:
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