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17 years ago
corboy
its not at all uncommon for crooks to engage in 'sheep stealing'--they infiltrate legitimate spiritual groups and snap up people who are vulnerable or too inexperienced to identify bullshitology. Buddist 'big sky mind' is not created from denial or dissociation--quite the contrary. People who are experienced practitioners are the most 'present' grounded people yo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
on the thread collection named 'LGATS' someone named 375lighter went through Forum and describes the process. He/she was NOT impressed. IMO Thing about many controversial LGATs is that they are an indoctrination set up. You pay a big sum of money, which right away pressures you to believe you're involved in something worthwhile. Next, you spend 2 to 3 days binned up in a hotel
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
your cousins and give them a silent message, by your own well lived, happy life that there is indeed a larger world out there, that may plant a seed that can blossom later. They've done studies of resilient children--people who had hideous childhoods and who came out against all odds as strong, life affirming people. And overwhelmingly, these resilient people had this going for them: they
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
The behavior you describe sounds worrisome. No genuine guru ever makes a display of power or attempts to override a person's rational intellect or freedom of will. Real teachers create an environment that supports insight, kindness and adult responsibility--they dont behave as Premanand did. And real gurus dont lie. According to the website, Premanand claims to be in the lineage of M
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
This school may be OK, but its always good to research any group, especially if its residential. Go to Google. Then click 'groups' and do an advanced groups search. That will enable you to search the many Google listserves for information others may have posted about Heartland. If you find anything that resembles what you are looking for, you can register to join the listserves. I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
First, if this is a non profit group, they are supposed to file for nonprofit status with the Attorney General--and such information should be a matter of public record, available on the Attorney General's website. There is an author, William Patrick Patterson, who is a reputable Gurdjieff scholar. He wrote a book, Taking With the Left Hand, which describes some trends that Patterson cons
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
This URL will take you to an online book Call No Man Master: In Praise of Teachers but Wary of Gurus by Joyce Collin-Smith Mrs. Collins-Smith worked with a variety of groups and teachers for 50 years, a good number of whom studied/channelled psychic powers. Her experiences are fascinating--and full of cautionary lessons. 1) Some of her best loved teachers became overwhelmed by psychic e
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
hunches for you to mull over, concerning this group: You said that part of the doctrine seems to be that there are seven levels of human development. Here are remarks from a person who studied Gurdjieff/Fourth Way work in England. Her comments seem to jibe with what you have described: 'The Gurdjieff concept, which Ouspensky had accepted, was that several levels of 'man' alre
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
This UK-based resource site has, in its articles, a useful list of tips: I've put double stars after some items that seem relevant to LGATS. And suggestions of my own in parentheses--corboy) Exploding The Myths People don't join cults. They are recruited. ** People are recruited by a method not a message.** People do not stay in cults because they have nothing better to
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
you mention that much of his group work is in West LA. Does he seem to be targeting the gay/lesbian community? Or does he go after anyone with money? If you can identify whether he targets a specific group of people that might help. If he's focusing on the gay community, you might consider alerting some of the gay papers--it might make a good feature story for a resourceful investigative
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
My hunch is that 'Michael' probably keeps promising recruits under survaillance, gleans information about them through his spies, then uses that to make it seem that he has psychically intuited what their deepest concerns are. Many bogus psychics use adroit questions (the technique is called 'cold questioning') or yes, they use spies to snoop on people. It sounds as though
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
this site doesnt push 'anything'> It offers research tools and information. Visitors can take what they like and leave the rest--or choose to disagree entirely. What the site provides is not a program but : 1) links to information that certain groups, teachers and training programs WITHOLD from potential recruits, information that a prospective recruit needs to know in order
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
it is a longshot. Certain 'New Age' places rent facilities to a wide, wide range of groups, some legit and some not. So the ranch may or may not be owned by the LGAT. And we dont know if the charismatic 'Michael' is sole owner or co-owner. Good luck in your search. Do the Google dance. You can do simple and advanced searches in the Google groups as well as Google itself
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
Ran a quick Google search and came up with nothing. My suggestion is subscribe to some Google groups dealing with consciousness, psychology, mysticism and post a question about this set up. Google has a world wide reach and someone might find your post and respond. Good luck. All I can say is, anything where they have multi-day retreats in the desert, operate secretively under the aegis of a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
--or 'Silva?' There's something called 'Silva Mind Control' (its original name) and now called 'Silva Method.' It has been used in various training packages for the work place and some legal issues have surfaced. Silva appears to use methods of self induced trance induction, visualization and self hypnosis. But back to my question--could that 'S
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
interested in it. But from what I have read and heard, it can be for real (as well as easily faked), and even when it is for real, it is a high risk venture. I'd rather stick with Buddhist practice any day. Channelling is just a distraction from the Big Picture. The only people who are competant to do it are all dedicated to a religious vocation in which their primary loyalty is either to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
'I won't be manipulated into agreeing with someone if they decide to use the friendship as ransom for it.' 'If they decide to use the friendship as ransom for it'. That hits the nail on the head. In true friendship, you are not treated as an object. Intimacy is not meant to be a game of chess. And friendship/love is not supposed to serve a hidden agenda. I may be m
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
and psychic talent doesnt guarantee infallibility. From what I have read, it is quite hazardous to develop psychic talents unless the person 1) has gone through normal milestones of psycho social development and has a good 'functioning ego' 2) has learned how to earn a living by honest means 3) can form and maintain friendships and intimate partnerships through normal adult communi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
corboy
advise him to make NO major decisions while he is exhausted. He needs to get sleep (in his own bed) and some food of his own choosing. And he shouldnt sign any papers either. Tell him this is what his future will contain: people monitoring his conversations. Shortage of sleep. Constant pressure to perform.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
It describes my life--including my sense of betrayal and loss of hope when I realized the extent to which I'd been hurt by my entanglement with a charismatic narcissist. My parents were narcissisitic, so I got excellent training. The person I got entangled with engendered my interest in cultic situations. He did not run a cult in the conventional sense; he preferred a private life, and hi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
before we go to bat to try to stop these groups--which includes writing any feature stories. These LGATS are powerful. Most important thing we can do is post warnings on places like Craigslist.org whenever an LGAT with a troubled track record advertises a training. You could post a warning in the LA craigslist in their 'community' section and give the URL for this discussion thr
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
..but vulnerability is on a continuum. There's the 'ordinary' vulnerablity that comes from being human, from wishing to be connected, and from the ordinary human desire to avoid a painful emotional experience that social psychologists call 'cognitive dissonance.'* (See footnote below) Then there are deeper forms of vulnerability that come from lifestyle disruptions and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
rather than 'wrong'. It used to be assumed that people who became entangled in cults were neurotic, gullible or lacked intelligence. Not so. What we have come to understand is: 1) Many of these groups now have decades of experience and have developed sophisticated powerful tactics that utilize tried and true techniques derived from marketing, peer pressure, neurolinguistic programm
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
For my own entertainment, I went to went to the LA bulletin board, and then went to 'classes/events'. (The CL for LA has this section, as does NYC.). On the classes/events section I saw this listing It looks like a classic LGAT--little or no info about the trainer or his/her organization. And no information about what will be done during the event. If you ever see something
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
sucked in...another ingredient in the brew cooked up by these trainers is 'transferance'--the ability to foster a rapid, extremely POWERFUL emotional connection between the subjects and the trainer by using emotional intimacy and 'sharing' exercises. In genuine psychotherapy, transferance develops gradually as the counselee trusts the therapist. And the therapist is a trai
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
If you have a website there are ways (I am not familiar with the methodology) that you can track who the domain name is registered to. You can use this method to identify set ups where a single organization is using mulitiple names. But if someone doesnt have a website, that makes it harder to track them down...precisely what some types are after. You might consider writing a courteous 'h
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
...you are referring to? If so, I found this on Google by doing an advanced search and typing the person's name into the 'exact phrase slot' and 'Las Vegas' into 'all words' slot. If this is the person you're referring to (and we need to do more checking as this is a very common name) the KB refered to in Google is (or once was) associated with som
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
If you live in one of the cities where has a bulletin board, you might consider posting a query/warning about this LGAT in the 'community discussions' listing. That way you can 1) warn others about this scam and 2) get further information in case someone reads your posting. You can arrange for your listing to carry an anonymous e-mail address. If anyone does respond, you can arrange to
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
I will go looking for his books! There is another big difference between your experience working on yourself using Dr Burn's books, vs Landmark: you created your own learning enviroment when you worked on yourself using Burns' books. In many problematic LGATs, the social environment is imposed on you, and its not a learning environment--its an indoctrination set up. In the proble
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
corboy
is an excellent resource. Registering is easy and they have just about everything that has ever been printed in English. When you verify that they have the edition that you want, check Amazon.com and Barnesnoble.com, do some comparison pricing, and then place your order!
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