RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Like I said, I don't have a citation. Like I said > it's for the reasons mentioned above. Well, again: I am not trying to give you a hard time by any means, but it's accepted by professionals and grownups that if it cannot be cited, then it's not factual. Dude, I am a serious resear
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Well, I'll tell you what we can cite, FOREST. Prabhupada said that one becomes guru by virtue of their qualification, and also on the order of their own guru: "Regular guru, that's all." BUT, when somebody asked Prabhupada who ordered HIM to be a guru, Prabhupada basically replies, "Don't you worry about that." So it begs the question: who specificall
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > XKRISHNA > > I don't. > > There are 837 pages of testimony, documents, > recordings, posts, links, and so on on this forum. > I suppose you could start from page one to find > the many citations of Butler's attitude towards > his followers and closest disciples. Now,
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No citations at all, other than your quotes.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Butler was right about one thing and one > thing only when he regularly spewed,"my disciples > are all idiots". > > Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupanada paramahamsa, gurudev > of Tulsi Gabbard, was right about that, no > question. Have you a link to any instances of this quote
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You are welcome, sundowndancr. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, right?
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It's sort of like if some Christian evangelist went on a very successful missionary trip to India, and then when he died some of the people he baptized started to preach that this same missionary was, in fact, the Second Coming of Christ. But this is something that our evangelist never preached about himself; in fact, this same evangelist had always preached his non-divinity and he would nev
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00:54 in this video: like an onion, layers upon layers. The most harmless parts on the outside, the evil stuff on the inside. That's how these groups work.
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You are welcome. Why did you leave?
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It's FEAR. Members of abusive groups live under constant fear and are scared to death. Fear is what holds them in the group, whatever "the group" is. "Leaders" instill intense fear in their followers. Leaders of abusive groups indoctrinate and manipulate people to feel fear and helplessness, which in turn engenders dependency upon the leader to make value judgements an
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XKRISHNA Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Corboy: I have not been able to conform this, but > I have it on very good authority that Tapahpunja > (Terry Sheldon) is residing at New Vrindavana > again (after having left New Talavana), and is > today the bhakta leader there. If this is true, > then it's a terrible development; it's
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Corboy: I have not been able to conform this, but I have it on very good authority that Tapahpunja (Terry Sheldon) is residing at New Vrindavana again (after having left New Talavana), and is today the bhakta leader there. If this is true, then it's a terrible development; it's terrible that he would be given that access to young people, to bhaktas. Tapahpunja and another devotee with
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You are most welcome, corboy. I've followed ISKCON for more than thirty years and I am friends with some of the people who are in the Peacock documentary, so I feel like I know what I am talking about.
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Indian patriarchal framework Prabhupada set in > place had no corrective mechanism to restrain > Keith Ham after he took charge of his part of > ISKCOn after Prabhupada's death. Please let me remind you, corboy, that New Vrindavana was not a part of ISKCON from 1987 until 1994. It was fully und
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You are welcome, corboy; my pleasure. Enjoy.
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Part one: Part two: Part three:
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Corboy: there's this idea that I've been toying with lately in my mind, a hypothesis which I want to bring to this message board in order to discuss it with others, in order to develop it more fully. Here it is: My hypothesis it that certain types of serial murderers, and certain types of "cult leaders" have exactly the same psychology and are exhibiting the same pathology
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At 33:10 in the above video, Ritadhvaja Swami makes a threat. "If you want to argue about this, then you can talk to my bodyguards" is what he says, in so many words. Can you imagine a Christian clergyman talking this way? Is this a religious leader, or a Mob boss?
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23:24, 30:32...a "soft landing," you say? Then what would a "hard landing" look like?
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kithi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No evident of systemic organ harvesting in > Shakahola. > > > Mackenzie had his own ideas. > > Information about link between groups would be > useful, not speculation. No evidence of organ harvestig, you say? That's not what is says here:
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kithi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Organ harvesting? Where'd Mackenzie get that idea from, I wonder? Maybe from the "kidney cult," huh? Do ya think?
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"While starvation appears to be the main cause of death, some of the victims -- including children -- were strangled, beaten, or suffocated, according to the chief government pathologist Johansen Oduor. Court documents filed earlier this month said that some of the corpses had their organs removed, with police alleging that the suspects were engaged in forced harvesting of body parts.&quo
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Dave McKay must be feeding his people Mandrax now. Good Lord. I believe the fellow in the video is named Simon Smith. He has the typically gaunt, vacant manner that most of McKay's people present with. He's been with McKay for about twenty years, Simon has. Simon Smith is the same person that's in this video, at 3:49.
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Then I misunderstood. My mistake. They'll protest against anything they think will get them attention and legitimacy, McKay's people will. No, Mackenzie is new to me.
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As far as I know, there is no connection at all between Branhamism and the McKay group. The group which is sometimes known as the "Jesus Christians" are derived from the Children of God/Family, and not the work of William Branham. I have never even heard of this Mackenzie's church, for that matter. Dave McKay seems to be inserting himself into the MacKenzie matter in ord
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Success! "Resolution 22/09-03 Based on the ‘GBC decision regarding Lokanath Swami’ approved on July 20th, 2022, the Euro RGB body is requesting Lokanath Swami not to visit, preach or initiate in ISKCON projects and communities in Europe. This resolution is not permanent and may change, especially if the GBC body is presented with new evidence and their decision is altered, otherwise t
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"In his complaint, the victim security guard also alleged that the accused monk also threatened him getting his sacked if he divulged the event of sexual abuse on him. The victim also informed the police that previously too other staff of the temple were sexually abused, though they remained silent in face of threat."
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"According to the FIR filed at Nabadwip Police station, the victim security guard was allegedly summoned by the accused monk to his room and after that he was sexually abused by the latter. Local police sources said that although earlier too there were similar complaints of sexual abuse against the same monk, but this was the first time a formal police complaint has been filed."
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"What’s happening in the Ukraine—coming to a neighborhood near you—is the fruit of ISKCON Inc’s centralized institutional control, precisely what Srila Prabhupada warned against when he said, 'Do not centralize anything…or, everything will be spoiled.' No farms, no shelter, no food…no independence. This is a wake up call, highlighting what happens when the other varnas—especially
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