According to one of the latest public but anonymous testimonies of one of the Polish members in the years 2006-2009 in Russia in Altai, entire centers, i.e. supporters along with the buildings of "Chaitanya Mission" left Chris Butler Siddhaswarupananda and transformed into "Gaudiya Math" and it was independent from the events in Poland, i.e. the departure of several people. He
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With these social actions, of course, there were nice and funny situations. When vegetarian bigos was being cooked in a military unit, several thousand portions for WOSP, an annual charity event, a soldier, lieutenant came to the cooks to check if the social activists from the cult are to steal something from the military kitchen or to destroy something. One of the friendly devotee-chefs was i
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Told them everything that is in here. And held > them accountable for their lies and abuse. It is impressive... And where is all the money - some maybe here: And worth to remind: QuoteVera City Yoza, Nishiki, Reed, Gabbard are all BETA male types to Butler's ALPHA. Easy followers. Most f
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We also know that at the same time, Ojaswi das, who at that time was perhaps not a regular member, but let's say a sergeant, knew Kasia personally, was friends, took care of Kasia for some time in Krakow and reacted to the information about Kasia's suicide with dejection.
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Below is a recent public but anonymous statement by one of the former polish SoI/SIF members about the behavior of the group's leaders in Poland right after Kasia Socha's suicide. QuoteAfter she committed suicide on the Grunwald field during the retreat in Brodnica, as soon as this information reached Balakhilya Das, they made a meeting at his table during the meal and all the leader
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Or such a release process. The inner kshatriya policeman (rajas) takes the magnum powerful handgun of knowledge and slays the malicious demon of ignorance (tamas) binding the inner child (satva): Do I feel lucky? Unless your inner child is just as nasty...
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In general, you can also rely on Bhagavad Gita. Approach a self-realized person. Ask humble/submissive questions and serve with devotion. No asking questions? There is no guru? Adios muchachos. No tadana & lalana - good bye...
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I must say that when I was a devotee, I had become > a better person, but I was still running a > program. The devotee program. "Soi Devotee" v(?) > My nasty side was kept in check like the nasty > side of many who were afraid to show it. > I mean only the leaders are permitted to b
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And chanting more like a robot is the only > solution. And the priority in "Kali yuga" - sankirtana. That is what "Run forest run" emphasized in the psychological sense - apart from the potential transcendent effects - congregational chanting, present in human culture (among animals too), a
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I myself for sure carry a huge anount of the > negative qualities, which am not proud of. Nature itself make species to stand against each other. > Zero understanding of psychology and how the mind > and dark forces truly function. "Rajasic" and "Tamasic". Cult hierarchy. Recru
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Of course there is some sanity to join a religious group. The question is what is the main motive - moral values in good company or the illusion of insurance in the event of imminent death? Beside "spiritual development". Contribution. Try to change yourself? Correction? It is still according to the Vedanta philosophy that there are "saguna" - on the material level. Of cou
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, when you bliss out on the mantras and > transcendental love, the past does not matter > much. However the past is what has shaped us. > I am not saying I am a teacher snd guru. However I > have descended into the hell of my own psyche and > faced my inner demons. And unleasehd them onto >
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think that lying in the butler cult is as normal > as chanting your rounds. You either have to lie or > say it is a secret. One topic is the lie that the "guru" uses the title "paramahamsa" according to the rules and that it was okay to give up sanyasa. As an example or a precedent, t
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Butlers influence has resulted in at least a few > deaths, criminal activities for him executed by > his followers, bullying, unlawful schools for > indoctrinating his follower's kids into his > service and worship and numerous scams. In "Controversies" section, list of countrie
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > of butler are lost. Lost because they have > surrendered and accepted a disordered person as a > pure and perfect entity. A former cult member says the "guru" received psychiatric treatment. But I did not see any formal evidence. There are, however, known cases of "public healers" wh
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Culthusiast Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > QuoteButler gave a rare interview for the same > New Yorker article in 2017, saying that he did > have disciples, but rejecting claims he was an > authoritarian. > > Butler, who also goes by the name Jagad Guru, or > teacher of the world, said he preferred to think &g
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No one knows a word you are talking about > Culthusiast. I think anyone visiting here would be > hard-pressed to make heads or tales of a word you > have "contributed" here about this hare krishna > cult. the truth is, i'm wacko. after all, I was in this cult. I came as an idiot
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These are not the times when "Jagad Guru" at his vide lectures shouted "Falklands / Malvinas" - "your both thieves". After the incidents in India, Indonesia, the Philippines and where else with QNET, what can we talk about here ... It is inevitable - a conflict between the challenger and the descending hegemon. Unless a challenger, cultivating materialistic val
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Tulsi Gabbard leaves Democratic Party... QuoteThe first upload is a 28-minute episode titled "Why I'm leaving the Democratic Party," where she details her entrance into the Democratic party as a young person, "inspired by Democrats who stood up against the war in Vietnam" and those who stood up for plantation workers in Hawaii. Oh yes, inspired by those who prote
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Those who are in the cult, will always consider > butler as being a perfect Jesus that has saved > their lives. But with Kasia Socha and other people who committed suicide - somehow failed... "Don't be offensive man, that was their choice" "And what about the calf swapped with tra
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My life and experiences in general have been very > extraordinary since I entered the womb. And before the womb? A man after "paranormal" experiences in SIF must answer the question whether it is schizophrenia, a thorough digging and separating the archetypes installed in the human personality,
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > suffer as much as you have. Many are quite happy > in the cult. Some are happy, some are happy that they bought a dog and go for walks, some have committed suicide, and for them the big marathon ended in this episode. There is a woman in Cracow, the ex-wife of one cult member. She lives under stress for years
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One can also be upset that did not have eyes and ears open to the achievements of the higher caste of the cult, patricians or praetorians. Let us take the example of nice Vishnu das, who in the old days, as different people say, was not very nice and his behavior was close to a crime story. In public lectures, he gave an example of materialism in buying a house in a better neighborhood of the
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes. The endless arguing about how people see > krishna consciousness must come to an end on this > forum. > And also psychoanalizing and attacking those who > process deep trauma should also be taken in > consideration. I don't think that will happen. Unless the forum / thread is closed
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And I sound like an abuse victim that say the guy > had beautiful eyes? > And let people with rational thoughts speak. I can > assure you that you do not always sound as > rational as you think. Being an androgynous extrovert who denied own interpreted homosexuality and liked crowds, he easily se
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> Culthusiest. I get it, Guna Theory is interesting, > Karma, Yoga etc. These are all philosophical ideas > practiced by both atheistic and theistic faiths. > Samkhya, from which much of these ideas sprang > from is to concerned with blue smurf gods and > goddesses fooling around in a medieval indian cow > amusement park for eternity. It rejects it. The scriptures ca
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Noone truly gives a F… about my suffering. Why do > I care so much about the suffering of some blissed > out individuals who are addicted to happiness. > Do as you wish. Forgetting about them is the best > thing one can do for themselves. People accept / assume that you are suffering and SIF has be
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On page 550 of this forum - link below - Mrs. Lobaczewska, who was sued by the cult (IWoT, Instytut Wiedzy o Tozsamosci "Misja Czaitanii"). 1996. In fact, the judge while reading the statement of reasons for the judgment, he drew the public's attention to the fact that the court's assessment was not unequivocal. There was an interesting scene connected with the case that to
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Culthusiast. Let it go. Noooo, that is their karma i'm nasty... > The guru in that process will always be seen as > perfect and pure. Nobody will ever have the > courage to see the “dark” side of SoI. In practice, the scriptures say a bit differently. Let's take Bhagavatam Canto 6 Chapte
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I almost doubt that butler is aware of his actions > and the consequences of those actions. And if he > is, he onviously could care less. Self-righteous. Deceitful arrogants. Such Midgett (Balakhilya das). Gives a webinar on the recipe for a happy family. O great guru, how can you be trusted when you are
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