The role of Madhava dasi is very important, although ambiguous. She ran a center in Cracow. Cracow's Bielany. Mountainous area. Camaldolese Monastery. The inner one where the friars lived cut off from their family, even for 2 years without family visits. And external, serving. The center was in a detached house next to a hill that might have resembled Goverdhana. Las Wolski - the favorite
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The people who also became disciples such as > Bhaktivedanta in India, were usually raised in > Vaishnavism from birth. > They took it seriously. They did not land staright > from a strip joint. Genetic background, upbringing by parents, grandparents, traditional - these are very strong influences.
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Philip K. Dick is good. The main motto of "Science of Identity" from Philip K Dick: “It's the basic condition of life to be required to violate our own identity.” - Philip K. Dick, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? "In our sect, narratives and method, we place special emphasis on "violate"." “We are all insects. Groping towards something terrible
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They think it is all sweet little maya, krishna’s > sister. > Oh am attracted to movies. It is maya. I want to > travel. It is maya. I like this guy. It is maya. > Catholics take the devil more seriously. maybe a > bit too seriously. But devotees think spiritual > warfare is just the small stu
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is nothing more pathetic than begging for > love and bliss. > When you accept to fall flat on your face in front > of guru and deities, you may as wel also put beg > on the streets. No, no on the streets. Hawaii - no... > “The faithful are FEARLESS knwong Krishna is in > control”. Y
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Another interesting point is the question of begging. In the very beginning after breaking away from ISKCON, the members of the group were supposed to be doing business, not begging. Businesses based on free labor of members. Mostly free work. But today if you look at the profiles of the group's members - they are begging. This is called asking for health support. Or even their businesses
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just-googling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The young lecturer in the video resembles the > young Chris Butler, in my opinion! The mouth, the > teeth, the face maybe... but mostly in his speech > inflections, his movements, his confidence and > charisma, and his style of lecturing ad lib > without notes. Trained. For me a cross, hybr
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > devotees are meant to walk around with their > pacifiers. Grown ass men like midgett acting like > a blushing bride when asshole guru, addresses him > during a lecture. Midgett the couch "guru" is sitting in the villa. "Guru", where is your forest, tilak, kusa grass and why do you k
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A lot of these practices and beliefs are meant to > keep people blind to what truly goes on in this > reality. The reality is much more complex than religions show. The human body, the brain itself and the second brain in the intestines, etc. Even reductionisms or gunas theory etc. On the other hand, if yo
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If religions and spiritual practices offered zero > rewards, people would not go through so many > austerities. Of course, religions have beneficial elements. Universal moral principles. Don't have sex with someone else's wife. Because her husband can take the big gun and blow your head clean o
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One of my close friends is a food engineer. In fact, it is a specialization in biochemistry in the field of nutrition. It's shocking to hear. The rules of not combining foods are childish. Components of vegetables and fruits, chemical substances, the process of their decomposition and assimilation. How they are destroyed in the process of cooking or keeping in the refrigerator. Detailed know
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No human is qualified to lead thousands of > followers. I think that at the time this process > was established, guru had an intimate circle of > disciples. QuoteI didn’t inform most of my followers of my plan of action until only two days before I took it. Also: QuoteBecause my followers we
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just-googling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cult-thusiast: The large instruction manual was > published around 1988. It would indeed reveal how > nonsensical he had become by that time. I wonder > if anyone still has a copy of it? It is important to get it and study/publish. > > Jaya jagat guru, jaya jagat guru > Extremely fe
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It is interesting. QuoteAre the grains digested? Flour, especially refined flour, is digested before it reaches the intestines. On the other hand, whole grains, containing various fiber fractions, reach the very end of our digestive tract, supplying beneficial intestinal bacteria. The digestive cycle, its dynamics is coupled with the daily cycle, as well as phenomena related to sleep, brai
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just-googling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was another larger general instructional > manual that I looked at once. All the typical > nonsensical rules and etiquette when around the > supposed representative of g0d ... such as no > laughing when guru and family are having fun ... a > WTF moment for sure! I flipped thru the pages
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I forgot to add hypnosis skills to those recruiting factors and techniques. Chris Butler has hypnotic abilities. So the question is not what he can do about recruiting and getting approval/acceptance, but what he can't do. Anyway limited. Works better in financial area - Bismark. Untill the fruits come.. Of course, when Mr. Midgett uses techniques, presenting, for example, meditation with
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just-googling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jagat Guru! > Who Are You? > Best friend of the boy in blue? > Yoda: "Over the cuckoo's nest he flew" > > Everything in Krishna's service? You bet! > From the humble surf board to the jumbo jet! QuoteYes, he is. Yes, he has. You are the sponsor All that jazz.
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That confirmation within the heart plus phenom > that blows the mind, made it so I ended up there. The mechanism of this confirmation is quite significant. Generally, people accept the similarities. An amalgam of similarities. Something familiar. Like a woman who takes a pathological father for a husband. She
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just-googling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was another larger general instructional > manual that I looked at once. All the typical > nonsensical rules and etiquette when around the > supposed representative of g0d ... such as no > laughing when guru and family are having fun ... a > WTF moment for sure! I flipped thru the pages
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It would be really nice if SIF purged itself, came > forward with its incongruences, made peace with > its past and started on a clean slate, > so-to-speak. A religious association whose teaching and practice are inconsistent with the tradition to which it allegedly belongs, whose statute did not a
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If one sits on the high guru chair, I think the > minimum they can do is respect the 4 regs. This erratic marijuana tolerance is evident and sharpened in archival press clippings. That it's an individual thing and so on. > MK ultra is a joke compared to their state. > If that guy took the blame
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am curious about something. Does anybody have an > idea how the Bowler operation started? > Was he already into smuggling when he got into > chanting? What i remember from private messages he was busted two times. He was supposed to humble himself and be initiated by Siddhaswarupananda. What the arch
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Run Forest Run, thay gay club infiltration is > truly sick. > Nothing can rectify the crap show that is going on > in this material realm. > If we look at history, all the people who wanted > to make a poaitive change, like Luther King, > Gandhi… got eliminated. > You are supposed to prote
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What with its main holy book being centered around > a religious war and > pretty much every purana exploring violence and > justifying it: Violence characterizes this planet and humanity. Billions of killed animals - breeding. The same is seen in nature. Similarly, the brief moment of a unipolar w
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The store in question was Westside Natural foods. Thank you, RUN_FOREST_RUN for the information and all the post. Important confirmation. I will address them all gradually. Child abuse especially important to comment. > as place for Bulter to stay. Rama's big revelation > that he was ina cult c
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In all my years of being part of SoI I never heard > of butler and muncie being the incarnation of > NitaiGaur. It is very important whether these words of Balakhilya dasa have been registered. As possibly another pebble-proof of methodical legend-making. On a practical level, however, there's this pi
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QuoteAre those assholes still running that store in Lahaina, why don’t they give it to DTE, assholes--- and they call themselves my disciples make all kinds of money while their kids skate and surf, assholes, they should give it to me Does anyone know what happened to the owners of this store in Lahaina referred in the quote? It is not on the list of stores of the "Down to Earth" netw
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T.Gabbard: Quote“Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such thing as Wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty, without Freedom of Speech.” - Benjamin Franklin Her Guru: "If I don’t want to answer you, you are at fault not me.” "If you don’t know you are not supposed to know.” "It is your fault, the guru is faultless.” As Sai: "Once the spiritua
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Translation a message from Tapasya das QuoteMarch 19, 1997 SECRETARIAT For the information of the press department of the "Chaitanya Mission" Namaste! I present some guidelines that will help us defend ourselves against the fascist campaign propagated by some circles referring to the Catholic Church. We don't want religious violence. We have to tell the Catholic Chu
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You see, the typical dynamic of a cult is to cry > "equality! Tolerance! Inclusivity! Love for > All!... But yet they are far from that. In my life > as a devotee I hear more criticism of others than > I ever have not being a devotee. Bhaktisiddhnata > was very critical of other religious
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