Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Listen I am not an atheist. I entered this reality > with the god program engraved into me. Not that it > was injected in me by my family. Reincarnation, remembered tendencies can be an explanation. Genetic heritage. Perhaps science will one day prove whether it will detect the phenomenon of genetic code o
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Scripture has no value in a corrupt system. It is > good for decoration. You have to be consistent with your decoration ... > And what is the value of it when the brahmans who > teach them do not have moral codes? No yama no bother... > Oh let me give a class in between few drug > smuggl
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “your mind is going crazy because you have been > offensive to Disciple X”. That is their methodology. And other techniques described on Forum. But when you confront it with even Bhagavad Gita or Bhagavatam, they use next trick: "you do the worst thing, you use scriptures in most evil way..." T
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was not raised studying any scriptures. I never > really even studied the gita so profoundly. It is a kind of loss. Because even by moving within the Bhagavad Gita or the Bhagavatam one can bombard the claims of the cult (SoI / SIF). Another example mentioned here in the Forum: In the copied video materi
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Evidence. The evidence is important. Various personalities gather evidence. My set of evidence is not that extensive, but it is. I was given an archival issue that looked like a xero in my time, Haribol 2'92. Polish edition or Polish XERO. Page 7. QuoteJagat Guru: A person is not a bona fide spiritual master if he teaches anything other than that of the acaryas or Krishna. This way we
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The topic is obvious. You are a smart young Amish, Grandma Lana's neighbor in Hawaii. You secretly play with Rubik's Cube or with electronics. If you're tired and Grandma Lana gets you, don't try to run away. She'll get you anyway. Rest, because when you are tired, Grandma Lana in garlands and paints will get you anyway and you will be done in the factory. "She co
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Distribute the yoga sound via Wailana free labor > factory. Do not be extremelly offensive. Try to age naturally, with 2mm thick make-up... You have no money? Do not be engaged in material existence. Do not work for your body. To maintain it sell marijuana...Or some pyramid scheme you know. India, Indones
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They think that the fires of hell and Yamaraja are > waiting for us and they rest in peace. Sure, for us, not for them. After all, we are not taking money from a multi-abortion clinic making 350,000. abortion and as politicians we do not support subsidies for this clinic. After all, it is not us who do not fol
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For fanatical cult ignorants. What Gita says: BG 2.16: Of the transient there is no endurance, and of the eternal there is no cessation. This has verily been observed and concluded by the seers of the Truth, after studying the nature of both. Both, both, both...
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AC4711 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The members of the cult > have no regard for anything on this planet. There is a wide spread here. The behavior of the former leaders of SiF Polska, whose narrative at public lectures said that "buying a house in a good district of the city" is an expression of materialism is already legendary. Years la
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Multi-level marketing: And related sales techniques, persuasion etc. Meetings of sellers, arousing enthusiasm, faith in the product and sales methods, etc. Often the mood of a sect and in practice the sects are centered around the product and the idea of the happiness of money. SIF? Joseph Bismark "Japa das", formal owner of some SIF properties. Other? Rainbow vacuum cleaner e
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Another aspect caught my attention - in connection with the letters of Chris Butler, dissatisfied with the over 20-person kitchen crew and meals - archival reports. If the core of the group consisted as the effect of applied MLM recruitment techniques, then it must be remembered that the purpose of MLM structures is - selling - not - cooking. Creating the appearance, apparent effectiveness
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > business? I am very curious to know how so we know > that top dogs were also involved? It is certain that in the late 1990s, police officers from the anti-drug group came to at least one of the centers in Poland after the Paramahamsa das incident. I will add two more observations. From the profiles of th
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for this post. I will refer to several aspects in a fragmentary way. > I think in general the mood is becoming > more inclusive of women and their roles as > leaders. But scripturally, the psychology is > reinforced that women are in some way the fall of > man. Of the few contacts I
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is countless examples of things like > this. Butler routinely called his female followers > dykes, cunts, bitches, and any manner of > derogatory expletives. In general, lectures in Poland - even these complete cassette bookshelves - were mostly deprived of lectures with such statements, alth
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More advanced questions are related to the profiling of specific personalities. For example, education, work experience, first spouse, etc. Let's take Papa Dolphin. Zoologist by education. What is the advantage of being a zoologist? The internalization of treating people as animals. Propped up by science. Strengthened with egotism. Increased sense of belonging to a group. Strengthened
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My story mirrors Ian's. I started in butler's > cult, his gurukula, moved through 4 to 5 others > gaudiya groups including ISKCON. It takes a lot of faith in the Vedas or the process to go after SiF / SoI with 4 or 5 sangs. Can you say something about the differences or phenomena in thes
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Same way we bought all Yoga material from them. > The fear of viruses was never about caring for > devotees. > It was about protecting the pure devotees. > If uou got sick then you could not easily do your > service to butler and stay awake till 3 am. > The person does not count. If they die o
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So I wonder how the actual pandemic that he had > prophecized has been handled. A test of how far you can go in fooling people. In Poland, it looked like a cabaret. For example, masks were bought abroad, in the USA, and then distributed in Poland. As if in a magical way, this meager amount of many times more e
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How are they managing the pandemic with the usual > butler virus paranoia? Squirrels with healthy nails report that cracks appear on the granite of the faith of the most blind believers, precisely in the context of a sheep's vaccination rush. Let us recall the maneuvers. In the early 1990s, SIF's
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They always say it is offensive to take a person’s > focus off krishna. > How is all the drama helping people focus on their > spiritual lives? Focus ... This is quite an important point of view - full involvement in practical activities. Spiritizing everything. This is in conflict with the teachings o
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Yes, you are generally amazed by reading these letters. Here are lists of e.g. the late 80's. This is surprising for a man from Poland who entered the cult in the 90's. Grotesque, cabaret, shocking irrelevance, etc. The important point is - assuming Chris Butler was increasingly disenchanted with disciples - which is in contradiction with the reports on this Forum - the question then
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The metaphor of life as a battlefield > is a useful one. This reveals another aspect as well. Only in the face of death does a thorough analysis of the problem, a tragic calculation, take place. Family relationships and generally understood morality. Moral principles, religion, or the family will perish.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The average hare Krishna in butler's group > subscribes to the idea of being a soul and God > being krishna and butler being God's man on earth. More precisely: "being only one God's man on earth" Otherwise how is it possible for "serious disciples and students with the
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm suggesting that people use their critical > thinking instead of just gobbling up the words of > any number of these religious leaders as something > absolute and holy and unquestionably right/true. Christians may confront this with the words of Jesus: Quote“Why do you call me good?” Jes
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hypocrite Tusli Gab-Bard, devout follower and > disciple of Siddhaswarupanada Paramahamsa, Jagad > Guru, Chris Butler, is once agian caught in the > politiclaly self-serving act of sporting a > military uniform while complaining about > self-serving politicians. This modern day Arjuna > is
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think that it has been greatly > polluted. In addition to aspects such as the presence of bad energy due to Marijuana subsidies, MLM recruitment methods, IGG party, decades of involvement in politics, convenience on a wealthy American island, you can ask yourself - can an ordinary Chinese woman from Hong Kon
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- What is your name? - Sir Workalot of Chantalot - What is your quest? - Seek what sells the best - What is your favourite color? - Green? No! Blue!- aaaaaaaaa
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Dolphee, dolphee come to me got weed package here for thee put the package in the ass money is the greatest sense... and what next, then we have sex, we have villas everywhere, there no hustle, bustle there but when comes the nasty beep you're again a common sheep
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So what has been my life and fate now that I am an > expert critical thinker. An experiencer of the > supernatutal. One who has gone as deep as possible > down the rabbit hole. One who cannot be easily > brainwashed… It's such a paradox. And Iankoviak could become a professor of Indology ....O
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