IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's funny DeWatcher. Unfortunately this forum > is heavily monitored by Butler disciples and now > they are going to scrub that one too... Let's play a game. I give 10 more, and hide 10 more and give some time and advice how to find and then we score... And after that we would go to 5 more t
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hinduism covers a wide gamut of > ideas/faiths/philosophical views. Among the six orthodox currents of Indian philosophy, i.e. yoga, Vedanta, etc., the SIF theoretically represented the Vedanta current of acintya-bheda-abheda-tatva school. Buddhism came out of India, which was not considered to be orthodox bec
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dewatcher, I would like to extend my apologies if > I came off too harshly in the last couple of post > calling you an apologist. Don't worry, everything is ok, nothing happened. As I wrote to you, taking into account that you as a child of devotees went to school in the Philippines without protection
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Quickly now: "they didn't clean everything" QuoteWai Lana is married to Chris Butler, the founder of the Science of Identity and the spiritual leader of U.S. Representative Tulsi Gabbard.[16] No meticulousness.
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Retreat is not a bad idea. Although the signals are contradictory. Let's look at the events anyway. The US has partially withdrawn from Syria. Finally, Turkey attacked in the Idlib province. Erdogan releases thousands of migrants from Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are trying to get Greek islands near the Turkish coast. Lesbos. Invasion of Europe? There are not many women and children there.
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A federal judge said in a decision Tuesday Google > did not violate the law by momentarily preventing > Gabbard from buying Google ads because it is a > private company and not a state actor beholden to > the First Amendment. > Read the full decision here. This is characteristic and sym
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Hi, Some comments to Lalita's testimony: VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There’s around 1,000 or so followers across > Australia, New Zealand, Philippines and the US. Poland some say 300, some say 1000 with "satellites", some say that fewer people, even only 150, came to retreats. But also Ukraine, some people C
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eeny, meeny, miny, moe > Catch a devotee by the toe > If she hollers let her go, > Eeny, meeny, miny, moe > My mother told me > To pick the very best candidate > And you are it. About older times: John and Patrick lived on Mary E-I-E-I-O! Jane was after life was scary E-I-E-I-O
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Do you think Butler's list looks like this? > > This list is indeed puzzling, although qotes from the lectures could be supportive. I was no longer a personal witness or listener of all examples of catastrophes designed to destroy humanity listed here . In fact, i did not hear bout on
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Mr. Modi The Prime of India did not listen to sweet Mrs. Gabbard words about peace between countries, nations or religions and probably did not read the Bhagavad Gita (i mean the gift; or some fragments, especially about the flag and of course Hanuman). Changes in Indian law restrict immigration Muslim - a matter of citizenship. And fruit - riots: And US-weapons:
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Mrs. Sporty: Surfing, skating (queen of the boards) .. As I remember, ant members of the cult in Poland felt guilty that they went to work at all what to say about sport. It wasn't until years later that they were enlightened that you could rest. They were enlightened by the caste that was enlightened by anti-cult movements, damaged health and general pressure ... I like the link.
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DEMOCRATIC NEVADA CAUCUS > > Tulsi Gabbard > 0- 0.1%- 1 The violent attack after false humility did not win the approval of American voters ... VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Like Gabbard, he grew up in the Science of > Identit
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Anyway, Greeaaat opportunity - Mr.Midget is coming to Poland again spreading the wonderfull knowledge about "Mindfullness". "What is mindfulness, what benefits does it give?" An extremely enlightening quotation from the introduction: QuoteMindfulness is the art of living life in a careful, caring and conscious way. This is a very unique art. The art of finding
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The evidence is testimony of many locals living in > that community. The recorded testimony is on > soundcloud and is clearly 2 men on the boat > talking to each other... where is the other man? I've heard the recording. Strange is that the kid was calling. It looked as if adult men did not have th
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > VOX, dewatcher stated this. Not me. > "Killing a person or protecting a real offender > from liability, even if worldly law is an > imperfect version of yama, this is not a good > symptom." > > I don't speak in riddles. I just come out straight > forward and tell it how it i
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't see anything out of context. The man is > basically making some sort of generalized sweeping > statement about government workers and how we > should discriminate and call them mudhas because > they don't want to worship your god Krishna. He > then takes it a step further that som
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please look at this article and sound logical > argument against the notion of Free Will and how > clear, concise and productive it is in terms of > its application to a persons daily life. > > > Good article. Conditioning always exists. You can be a full slave to your own conditioning, b
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So basically a Mudha is anyone who does not accept > their specific god. Got it. Very credible and > logical indeed. Pretty much the formula of all > fanatical religious groups. In this case the context was lost and it was treated too generally. Just take a look: QuotePrabhupada: Still, if you
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “The Bible should be accepted literally and not symbolically.” Hard to say that are words of A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami, when he wrote a lot's of comments to the scriptures. Problem is with translations. Something about 11 thousand versions, where even translation from Jehowa Witness'es which is very
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not objective which is easy to show but also stigmatizes irregularities.
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In tulsi's > recent public announcement of why she is suing > Hillary Clinton, she spends majority of the letter > describing what seemingly wonderful person she is > because she is a patriot and so forth. Even common > people who are her supporters found it distasteful > that she went on
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I guess Butler really needs those FIFTY MILLION > dollars! At a purely practical level, the question was how big part of the support were given by Mr. Patrick's donations. > Tulsi's campaign seems to have drained his wallet- > you know all the money goes to him, right? All >
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Divorced? From who? From What? What does Samoa > have to do with anything? To check everything and everyone. Too important. IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am especially fond of Krishnas words in the Gita > about suing your enemy for $50K. And the verses
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jai Srila Prabhupada!!!! > > > > May Lord Narashingha protect us from the evil > Hillary Clinton. > > In true Butler fashion, Tulsi decides to sue cause > her lord didn't show up for the occasion... > Krishna saves his energy to battle the real big > demons. Hillary did
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QuoteDaWatcher This is a symptom of a sect. Another example is that when you ask an inquisitive question, there is an attempt to intimidate. Faced with facts, there is denial.Or opposite. Symptoms of a sect. Of course it should be properly corrected when there is rejection, denial, intimidation etc.
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The mantras work when you > are in a lively kirtan in the same fashion that a > rock concert makes one feel free and happy. > Chanting on beads alone was always stressful as > you were asked to chant 16 rounds and spent > majority of the morning trying to bang through the > rounds so you can ge
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It is also necessary to cite the story of another devotee who, due to various perturbations, was excluded in one way or another from SIF Poland sanga - i do not remember the exact details of the exclusion. Nevertheless, he was publicly presented to another sanga community by the famous Acarya as not-formally-initiated however still a Brahman. An interesting phenomenon is the expectation that e
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Surely the congregational chanting of the Holy Name - Maha Mantra, with the respectful mantras to the Acaryas of the Parampara and the Sri Panca-Tattva mantra Maha Mantra work and bring benefits. My hard experience in the situation of realizing that the worldly dirt both in the mind and heart, allowed me to appreciate the Force of Life - Caitanya. Personal experience of bright light in the darkne
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In the meantime, let me remind you three more points noted: 1) the phrase "Samaveda Bhakta Vrindam" was noted in the words of respects payed during Arati. The question arose, why pay respect only to one of the Vedas? And wasn't it a coincidence that it was a writing mistake and should be "samavetah" or "gathered" as in verse 1 of Bhagavad Gita 2) During t
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IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The mantras are described as all powerful, there > should be little to few excuses for them to work > or not. In other words, intent, mood, etc, are > shown in many vedic stories to have no influence > over the mantras efficacy. Mantras work. The question is what is the action. Let's take the
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