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5 years ago
DaWatcher
Of course, these two rhymes must be apologized, for what I do. One should also take into account the influence of a bad relationship (matriarchy) on party mentality and wrong selection of mantras. Or chanting them in the right mood or stage. Especially the Maha-Mantra and Gayatri-Mantra issues.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In my own situation I was very fearful initially > to speak out against this group/butler. It was not > till I started to study vaishnava history, > mythology and had been through similar group > dynamics in other groups that I started to gain > some courage. My childhood was lost and I felt a >
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The process of initiation is they're to create > hierarchy and Status. No matter how you slice it, > the most unqualified people have more status > within the group if they are initiated. This done > creates a sense of tension. As there are many non- > initiated folks who are 1000 fold more co
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it makes sense that there was a steady > evolution of this character named > Siddhaswarupananda, but I also think he was > crooked from the start in his ambitions and pull > to ISKCON in the early days. Just as much as > nowadays he seems to have no problem asking ISKCON > gurus and tem
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > as religious, spiritual and moral guides Since there is an opportunity to refer to moral and spiritual guidance, let's look at another example. Below is a quote or rather assurance, allegedly from Bhagavad Gita, which comes from a Filipino Facebook account liked by many devotees. Quote- the ass
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But > if a Bhakta does the same activity—Makes some > video, chants. talks about self realization etc—he > is not acknowledged and is instead criticized for > his endeavors. And the cycle goes on. During the times of centers, or times of centralization, there were such events that the caring initiat
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
If you ask me if I recognize candidates who carry the hierarchy concept or actively support it by express expectations to engage into "their" projects after decentralization (not now, several years ago) - at the top or somewhere more in the middle - yes. Were there any controversies related to these candidates regarding "illicit activities"? - yes (not all).
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is not bonafide at all. > > They are told to show initiative then shamed for > doing what they're been told to do. One may wonder whether it was actually a methodology or just a habit of governance. According to officially announced expectations - a habit to rule. > IMO this is mind fuckery.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
An important phenomenon to describe is also deep internalization of the idea of hierarchy in the group, concepts, habits, attachments, from which it is not easy to break away later. Habit is present both in hierarchy activists and low-level sheep. I will give an anonymous example that shows the effects. Let's say we have a 3rd generation recruit sheep. This devotee is kind, serious, has h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's one thing to adjust a disciples respective or > give some chastisement for a small > misunderstanding. Butler has had rules like this > in place for YEARS. Many devotees have received > letters condemning them of "not caring about their > spiritual master" and thereby negating t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
There is no seva for an insane man. If the fruits are bad, reason can be i.e.: [*] students insincerity [*] material motive [*] offense [*] lack of knowledge [*] disease [*] control imposed [*] abuses due hierarchical utilitarianism [*] forgery of communication [*] mismatched naimittika dharma (ie. modified for drug addicts applied to satva-kids) Of course as on "Stress" m
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
Again: QuoteSrila Bhakti Vijnana Bharati Gosvami Maharaja "Guru maintains a disciple in two ways: through affection and through chastisement (lalana and tadana). Lalana means giving affection and tadana means to discipline or chastise, which is another aspect of affection. If it is one-sided , then the affection is not complete – it will only be 50%. When there is only affection, but
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Discipline" DELIVERIES D16 "All kitchen crew must recite policies 3 times a week" IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not religion. it's > not anything more than pure narcissism and > egomaniac behavior. I have not be
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And for the record DeWatcher, > detest/disdain/contempt—they all mean the same > thing. And faggot has not referred to a bundle of > twigs singe at least the 60s. My english is too bad. However, there is difference where someone: - is feeling detest towards someone else - this feeling is combined wit
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gaudiya Vaishnavism has nothing to do with > generating homosexual hate. A Gaudiya guru has no > reason to spend any time discussing sex life, let > alone with such vulgar language and description > and to kids. Gaudiya Vaishnavism is a spiritual > practice that forbids sex unless it be for > c
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
What about Bible? [*] supreme antifaggot [*] supreme homophobe Biblical Perspective on Homosexuality Quote“speak the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:15) In love there is no place for contempt/disdain. QuoteROMANS 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts., QuoteLEVITICUS 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. Detest
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
(b)(ii) "Supreme fighter with faggots" There is a story from Bhagavata Purana, about Dvivida gorilla. In description A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami shows that the gorilla abducted both women and men. He disdained urinating at the sacrificial arena (contempt for Brahmans). He saw God in Balarama's Form along with Gopis. He felt an attraction to both Gopis and Balarama - what kind o
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
(1)(2) "anti" (a) dictionary meaning "opposed to or against a particular thing or person" - no comment now (b) in the common understanding that God is fighting (b)(i) "Supreme fighter with faggots" ? God controls everything. In Vedict scriptures I cannont remind any story God fighting with homosexual oriented people. Fighting is "a lila
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
(1)supreme antifaggot (a) Antifaggot is too general because the word faggot has different meanings. God, the source of everything has to be anti i.e. "bundle of brushwood used in civil and military engineering" ?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
So, (2) point: phobia - QuoteA phobia is a type of anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation.[1] The phobia typically results in a rapid onset of fear and is present for more than six months.[1] The affected person goes to great lengths to avoid the situation or object, to a degree greater than the actual danger posed. God does not have di
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And when that guru is wrong? > What then? Let's ask theologians, first of all the Vedic, but also Christian - whether it is appropriate, even in jokes, to address the Majesty, Beauty and Love of God with the terms: [*] supreme antifaggot [*] supreme homophobe in other words, through
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
Before I submit the analysis, one more comment: VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > More Netlandia: > > Henri Jolicoeur. Sound material from the lecture. Considering the spiritual lecture also visible elements: show. Calling God "supreme antifaggot" controversial or offensive, also contemptuous description of male h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
I will help a little, consider: - road behavior - location (the speaker, the listener, the camera operator) - thick hands, bottle position - accompanying message - tone of the voice - head and shoulders - all together > DaWatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And now let's look on the next example. > > Mr. Midget, always happy,
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
But very seriously, study please it deeply.
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
And now let's look on the next example. Mr. Midget, always happy, no job, no obligations, surfing, dragging his japa mala along the ground will tell you how to avoid stress. "Well, you cannot avoid stress"... Hmmm....
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
DaWatcher
There is such a story from one of the members of SIF Poland from Lublin known from the Polish press. I don't know it from personal experience or relations but from press clippings. I also don't know exactly which person it concerns.From the desciption it is probable and sounds very familiar in terms of realities. In any case, the situation was such that one of the members of SIF Poland
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
And by the way, I got the answer to the question: - whether Siddhaswarupananda was massaged by women (other than wife, WaiLana). Thanks.
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
Hi Everybody, I am still browsing all posts in this forum. I found the post below which I quote. Vera City Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteRadhaGovindaHi Terrenaut. I'm guessing I > know you. Thank you for that intelligently written > piece. The last time I saw Siddha, I was in the > doghouse for something. For the life of me
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
In addition, the translation from the article from the link that I sent, about Kasia's suicide QuoteAccording to the newspapper, followed by Dominicans, the girl got to agricultural studies in Krakow in 1995. However, she did not succeed. After two years, she gave up learning. But she didn't want to go home. She changed her apartment, limited contact with her family. She talked
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5 years ago
DaWatcher
IanKoviak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Always ready to dramatize and drum up how "happy" > the next SIF guru is as he drags his japa mala > along the ground... Japa Mala made of Tulasi wood considered in the Vaishnava tradition as sacred should rather not be exposed to the cold wind, but kept in a bag. Like a relic. It would be good no
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