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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Constantin, can you please tell us more about the sanitary conditions at Monte Sahaja? We have heard that there is a lack of heating in the Winter, cold showers, also unhygienic pit toilets, and people sleeping in tents for long periods of time (months? Years?) You could understand how disease could spread under these conditions.... Also, I hear that at the same time the young woman Clai
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4 years ago
Sahara71
With the number of cases of Covid-19 more than doubling in 24 hours in Alentejo, Portugal, Moo had better get educated quickly!!
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4 years ago
Sahara71
There are now 5 cases of Covid-19 in the region of Portugal where Moo's ashram is situated - Alentejo. Moo's people should be very concerned with the poor sanitary conditions at Monte Sahaja - the pit toilets, the people housed in tents, communal dining, the shared showers (many of which are cold water showers - which are not adequate for correct hygiene at all). If anyone
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Thanks Horowitz, for the informative article by Mathew Remski which talks about a different cult - A quote from the open letter by former members of this group: “As is commonplace in high demand groups, a member of the larger community could attend a number of (insert cult name) programs and not notice the patterns described here. This is in part because of the ways systemic groomin
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4 years ago
Sahara71
With all due respect to the grieving family and friends of the young Irishwoman 'Claire' who died at Monte Sahaja from 'a cough'- Was her sudden death preventable? One of Moo's minions offers some (limited) insight in this video: In the latter half of the video, the devotee 'Amara' talks about death and dying and in particular the death of Claire.
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Stefa, someone posting here over a year ago did try to set up a website to help people who were suffering distress as a result of being involved with the Moo group, however the Mooji Organization contacted the her (him?) and and managed to have the site taken down. One of the most distressing things this person reported was someone with significant mental illness being harbored by the Mo
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4 years ago
Sahara71
The 'Sounds True' website where Mooji's false lineage claims are still apparent: They claim: "Mooji is a direct disciple in the lineage of the great Advaita Vedanta master Sri H.W.L. Poonja and the great sage Sri Ramana Maharshi." Wrong! Ramana did not leave a spiritual lineage, as is widely known and confirmed by the the scholar David Godman. See this i
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Yes, Horowitz, Rick Archer's BATGAP group is one place where comments from ex-followers of Moo don't get censored. It's very interesting to me that the Moo group would like to have this conversation taken down.... I do wonder why? Since they are a registered charity and totally transparent in all their operations... a little bit of conversation won't harm them, will i
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Just to be very clear, I am not Annette Chappelle, and she is not me! I have had some contact with Annette, and she is a lovely, sensitive, intelligent girl. However, her experiences are not my experiences, and although I find her accounts truthful and informative, certainly very believable, I just need to point out that we are two separate and different individuals. It might be confusing f
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Stefa, I feel very much along the same lines as you - what can be done to help those who remain in the Moo Cult? For one thing, I guess, you can read up on cult techniques and just be aware of types of manipulation that goes on within these groups. There is a lot to take in... You can contact your local Sangha group with your concerns and ask that someone be willing to answer your qu
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Oh, and the the recent death of the young Irishwoman 'Claire' who died from 'a cough' while at Moo's ashram. Then there is the woman follower who died in India from 'a broken leg'. And of course the issue of the legal action taken by Moo to prevent Henri Jolicoeur speaking out about things that were never any secret in the first place. That one will take
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4 years ago
Sahara71
That's good to know, Trav. I'm glad they (and you) could confirm the forced hair-cutting, the failed exorcisms, women reduced to tears by Moo's comments, the heron being shot dead and the series of relationships Moo has had with his female devotees, none of which has apparently been kept secret form anyone at any time. Lets hope we hear more form Moo's team about these
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Well, Traveler99, I do find it interesting how this "Bob" person has gone from someone who might not mind his real name being used to being someone who needs "protection". What do you believe he might need protecting from? The reason I ask is that people have reported being the target of verbal abuse after leaving Moo. One subject was the target of racist abuse. One
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4 years ago
Sahara71
stefa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He doesn't seem to be teaching at all. > > It seems that his answering method can be summed > up with the following: > > 1. Take a personal question, widen the the scope > of the question. > 2. Use profound language to be describe the > process of gaining liberation > 3. tell s
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Traveler99, instead of speaking for Bob and Kathy, maybe just go ahead and email my specific set of questions to them and let them answer for themselves? If they can't answer my questions, then perhaps they weren't really inner circle members as they claim? Perhaps they don't really know much at all? It seems that you have just paraphrased your friend's recent
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Stefa, there have been numerous accounts of confidentiality agreements issued by the Moo group, here on this forum. The purpose of such agreements is possibly to intimidate people into silence - if so, this is an inappropriate use of such agreements. A confidentiality agreement cannot be used to prevent the reporting of a crime, or to prevent a victim speaking out against psychological
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Traveler99, thanks again for your very informative analysis or the Moo organization, via your friend and her inner circle contacts "Bob" and "Kathy". It seems like these good people realize they are in a questionable organization, but that they feel it is no worse than any other fraudulent spiritual group, so they stay in the group anyway, just for kicks? If you are i
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Yes, I agree Zizlz, probably God is also imperfect - making him of course "not-God", rather than "God". And probably most of the people we think of a 'good people' are just people, being neither good nor bad. And the concept of 'Goodness' is also questionable in itself - being that you can only define it in relation to other good things, or by using
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Traveler99, thanks for sharing what your friends think of Moo. The most pertinent sentence from your friend, for me, is this one: "The problem is that when some things are kept secret, one doesn't really know what is going on, and trust is broken." Why is there so much secrecy in the Moo compound? Why was the relationship between Moo and Krishnabai kept secret in the
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4 years ago
Sahara71
One of the latest photo's from Mooji's trip to India, published on the official Mooji website: To me, this photo says it all.... a new, young devotee of Mooji kneels on the floor in front of him (I thought they were going to try to ban all the servile behavior in the cult?) while Krishnabai and Lakshmi look on. Both women have those tight-lipped smiles plastered on their faces, t
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4 years ago
Sahara71
I have been thinking about your post MynameisHeather. It's quite complex thing to do - to pretend to be a guru and stay in character, and succeed at it. What makes it possible is that a certain percentage of people are highly suggestible; that is that they have a very open and receptive mind and are willing to entertain quite random and creative ideas. I think I am one of these people
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Hi MynameisHeather, I would love to see the film 'Kumare.' I have heard about it from others and it sounds really interesting. I found this clip of the film-maker himself, Vikram Gandhi, giving a TED talk; It seems that he came from a religious Hindu background and studied religion at university, so he was certainly in a good position to impersonate a guru. I think the aver
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Howowitz, that is so interesting. Moo is given a chance to address the issue of suicide among his followers and he gets very angry pointing his finger and shouting "lies, lies, lies" at the man who raises the issue with him. around 1.05 The man was also concerned about a friend who was following Mooji and now has psychological issues. She is staying inside in her room, scr
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Geez, this person called 'Kosi' really has it in for both Mooji and Gangaji! A very, very interesting read! Not a lot of new information, I must say, except for the fact that Kosi attempted to counsel one of Moo's ex-students who sadly literally did lose her 'mind' at Moo's compound. Moo and his team did nothing to try to facilitate this student's reco
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Dear Zizlz, as far as I can gather with my extensive research, Moo's teachings do not align with Advaita Vedanta. However, one would need to be a Advaita scholar of considerable talent and experience to make an accurate analysis of Moo's gibberish. At this point in time, honestly, who would bother? No serious scholar would waste the time! As far as I have been able to gather, Moo
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Today I am at peace. :) I notice that the Mooji Wikipedia page has instigated a special section entitled- "Response to Cult Allegations" - Response_to_Allegations It's important that they are not just calling them "allegations", but they are being quite particular, calling them "Cult Allegations". I think this is very significant, as anyone who was p
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4 years ago
Sahara71
That's a great resource, Corboy. I wish I had time to read the whole research paper. This quote did strike me as important to the process of brainwashing or "coercive mind control" as it operates in Moo's compound- Quote: "Step 1 – Destroy the participant’s ability to reason. This is achieved through philosophical undermining of reason as a source of knowledge, as
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Thanks Horowitz for the intriguing video in a language which I don't speak either! (If anyone reading this can offer a translation, we would love to hear from you!) I can offer a quote from the author taken from the comments section below the video and translated via the internet: "Well ... now I get to Anthony Young Moo-Mooji a vagabond old man ... a great businessman and a
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4 years ago
Sahara71
I stumbled upon this just now from the official "Moojibaba" website: It's pretty funny! Interestingly, this weird "open letter" admits that there were mistakes made at Monte Sahaja, but it doesn't tell u what these mistakes were. It's a bit disappointing. I would really, really love to know more about these mistakes! Maybe there will be a 'Part 2
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4 years ago
Sahara71
Interesting video clip where Moo's own guru, Papaji, suggests that the soul of the deceased Osho (Bhagwan Rajneesh) may be speaking through he, himself: We know that some of Osho's followers gravitated towards Papaji when Osho died. Papaji may have been quick to secure these followers by not denying the suggestion that Osho could somehow speak through him. Osho was a confirmed
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