Hi Gibbs Thank you for your contribution but I cannot go past some contradictions you make. On one hand you say your life has never been better ( which is great) but then you say you have stepped away from it because of some of the claims serge has made? Correct me if im wrong. "I have stepped away from UM perhaps because of my skepticism on many of the claims without proof that have
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Concerned your so correct. He takes the obvious that science or commonsense has taught us.... Gets in front of people searching for answers and makes a sweeping statement to get them nodding... Uses his fancy buzzwords which resonate with the audience and before you know it your walking out the door with symbol cards, pillow cases to help you dream better and Serges formula to happily ever after.
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An observation from my situation. Because of the exhaustive ban on so many foods I found my ex do these 2 things 1) could not maintain this strict diet and ended up binging for days on processed sugary foods. The best she could do was a 2 week stretch before giving in. 2) felt guilty for days for doing it and then again would try to stick to Serges strict food guidelines And this just
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Welcome Treefern.... thank you for your contribution...
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And yep she is wearing the hierachy necklace. Serge isnt responsible for unearthing the discovery that EXCESSIVE sugar is bad for us. He has stumbled accross the science... rewrapped it in his own meaning and definition and tells his followers to eliminate it from their diets. In case people are wondering.... Serge wants us to eliminate the "added" sugar to processed foods. Fr
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Here it is
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His Facebook statement gave me a good laugh. Getting a little frustrated hey Sergie? Be careful your pranic mind doesn't take over.... You are a walking contradiction Serge! Its laughable.... When are you going to make a contribution on here? What do you have to lose? There are plenty of reasonable questions being posted. Maybe your lawyer could write on your behalf? After all y
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All i can say is my partner was very loved and cared for over the 2 years we were together and vice versa. Our communication was healthy. She didnt have a bad up bringing or a childhood trauma to force her into searching for something like UM. She is a highly intelligent person with a kind and giving nature. Despite all of this ( along with calm loving conversation) i could not open her mind to
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Hi Eric You are correct in saying there are dangers. There are many documented cases of acupuncture going wrong - i am aware of this because i have been seeing someone for acupuncture for a few years who is also a lecturer at the local university and she has told me there are many things that can go wrong if needles are placed in the wrong areas. So it beggers belief why UM are allowed to se
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QuoteMacReadyJust a note for the sake of accuracy - and if I'm mistaken please feel free to correct me - but my understanding is that any UM/EPA practitioner wishing to practice chakrapuncture has to go elsewhere and do the formal acupuncture training. As far as I know Michael Benhayon did, and he's widely regarded within the UM community as 'the master'. No doubt the UM'
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QuoteEric DobbsI recently visited the universal medicine health practitioners page, and discovered that out of the 9 practitioners working for Serge Benhayon in Byron Bay, 5 are family members. This nepotism appears to me to be not a healthy arrangement with Serge Benhayon being the one and only scrutinizer for his so called "health clinic" and it's "practitioners. This seems
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OMG - $10 - $25 million in revenue?!?!?!?!? THis guy has tapped into a gold mine! Congrats to you serge.... you have really mastered the art of fleecing people. Im in the wrong business. Im going to start working on some cool funky buzz words and move to byron and get in on this action.... oh wait... i wont because i have morals!
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Ah yes - Evolvedental.... I know of this practice. And of course they are pushing the same products that serge recommends and crapping on the same way serge craps on Yep this is EXACTLY the words of Serge spoken by a UM member. Its like a bunch of brainwashed zombies walking around spilling out the wisdom of Serge. This is how my ex would ramble on from time to time to try and explain her be
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A paragraph from Serge;s website "This site is also governed by the universal principle of Free-Will; understood by, from and in its energetic meaning. Therefore, no one is held, persuaded, influenced, swayed, converted or asked to join, agree or accept either in part or full anything that is here or alike presented by the founder Serge Benhayon or any other contributor. To be free to
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It's important people are aware that UM practitioners are not endorsed by any medical board. Any people offering health advice should at the minimum have approved qualifications that are recognized by the state. UM is self accredited to a degree. Yes his practice meets health and safety standards by NSW health but he has NO formal qualifications in pyschology. Serge has basically qualified
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QuotecorboyGeneral Info about Message Board and Private Messaging To anyone: Check your PM box (private messaging) and make sure it isnt completely full. Clear out un-needed stuff regularly to leave space. THanks Corby - if anyone has sent me a PM In the last week and I didnt reply its because i was unaware my mailbox was full. Please resend if you like.
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Hi John Sorry to hear about your situation. Unfortunately im still a little stuck on a solution to get friends or partners out of this. Im hoping that is just a "stage" they are going through and they will come out of it eventually. Problem with my little theory is how long is the "stage". It maybe months, years or decades? Im hoping Eric is going to post on here aga
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Macready wrote -"On that note, it would be curious to know whether any of the UM students, particularly the long term ones, have started hearing voices as a result of connecting to the Hierahy? It happened to Serge before he even began to change his diet and lifestyle habits so you'd think that after years of applying themselves to the 'Livingness' some of the students would b
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I also actually think while this presents a great business opportunity for Serge he actually believes what he is teaching. While money is a massive driver, so too is ones ego. It would appear he has progressively stretched his teachings and at the start i doubt he would have been as extreme as he is now. You could imagine as more and more people followed and worshipped the ground he walks on;
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Hi Eric Can you tell me how you convinced your partner? Any chance she would post on here about her experience? I know the second question is asking a lot but it would be great to hear from a past member. Totally understand if not though.
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I have ZERO proof but perhaps the reason we cant find anything on him pre 1999 is that he could have had a name change?????? I mean its just a guess. ABN number can be found on one of the posts i did a few pages back. I dont have any personal info on him as i chose to stay as far away from him as possible (despite my partners attempts to get me to meet him). All i know is he got divorced
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Hi Knowledge is king To answers your questions. 1) Should you be concerned? My honest answer is Yes because an association with any cult is alarming no matter what stage the cult is at present. From where im sitting he is constantly changing the goal posts and i fear where it will end up. Secondly its a concern because despite the sweeping mandate of UM to be all loving and kind and ca
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Info on breast massage from the lighthouse website which is the UK arm of UM A specific treatment for women, by female practitioners only. The way we live is reflected in our body. For almost every woman today, a 'successful life' has had dire consequences on our body. We live in a time where 1 in 3 women will be diagnosed with some form of breast or reproductive cancer. And t
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Ok well now i feel like a real moron! Thanks to some searching from Corby he sent me some links ( which i wont post here) as they are private financial planning business with a General Manager who has strong ties to Universal Medicine. I cant give away to many specific details because i wont put my privacy at jepoardy but upon looking at this website and i recognized the photos of these people
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Pranic Attack - I have heard from several second contacts that UM does offer esoteric financial services but i cant say i have first hand experience with it. There will be contributors on this forum who can probably substantiate this info for you.
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Hi Pranic Attack Unfortunately your experience is very accurate and dont feel isolated when you feel like you are not receiving an accurate explanation to their new choices. You never will and it will drive you nuts trying to find the answers. This forum has done the best job in explaining what they are about. The fact is im yet to meet a member who can explain logically and rational argume
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One other thing that you may notice with UM members is their views on death and more particularly their numbness or neutral nature around it. As an example you may notice when a natural disaster happens and there are deaths from it they show very little sympathy or emotion around the loss of human life. This could just be exclusive to my ex however i doubt it as when i question her on it she re
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I wasn't intending on posting anymore but felt I needed to say well done to Concernedpartner. I have picked up that book along with his others many times to only put it back down several pages later because of the absolute utter nonsense that is written. It is pain staking to read and make sense of his "energetic" style of writing. It's as if he invents words and has his own s
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I actually held hope for my ex partner to come out of this... From everything on this forum I have read I am giving up trying to convince her. I keep thinking serge is going to go to far one day and the penny will drop for these people. But if they are buying into all this crap (particularly what macready has just said) and it hasn't raised alarm bells then I got no hope. Thanks everyone for
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macready your a great source of information on all this. Great explanations. I could never get this info out of my partner. I think Serge's imagination has got the better of him. Its movie material stuff... Someone sign this guy up for a movie deal... Make a fortune with a sci-fi plot like this.
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