Another claim serge goes on and on with is his knowledge on reincarnation. Apparently from my understanding he says there are no "new" souls or people on this earth. We just keep reincarnating over and over again. So there is no new fresh blood so to speak. I could be completely missing something here but if there are no new people who enter this earth at birth then I have one simpl
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[www.cs.cmu.edu Thats really good stuff Macready!
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UM acknowleges that the College of Universal Medicine is a charity on his web page here. However as quoted on the Australia taxation office website here is what they have to say. Charity If your organisation is a religious organisation it might also be a charity. Refer to Is your organisation a charity? for more information. If a religious institution is also a charity, it must meet
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So it is registered as a "charitable organization" Further explanation here
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Bingo! Check out last link. Thought it would take longer time find. So he is using the system to his advantage.
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Wow this guy is clever. No tax! I wasn't aware of this loophole. I will find out tomorrow if he has registered as a religion. Check this link out.
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This forum has been brilliant at getting first hand experiences out there and providing some logical and rationale discussion. While its terrible friends and family have been affected by Serge and UM in a negative way it is good to know it wasn't only me. Thanks rick ross for giving us an avenue to express our experiences and thanks to everyone for posting. This forum will ultimately do s
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QuoteMacReadyIn my experience there was never music playing at the UM clinic (certainly not during the few sessions I had there) nor was it ever played during any paid session I had with practitioners outside the clinic. Unless it was being played at such a low volume that it was inaudible, which is a possibility. I would say if any paid practitioner did incorporate it into the session at an audi
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Macready you are 100% correct. There are 2 avenues when becoming involved with UM. You can either be just a follower or the next step is to be a UM massage therapist or Chakrapuncture therapist. My ex was a UM therapist for both. The massage is very gentle and i have to say very relaxing but i enjoy massages! As discussed before all motion is done in a counter clockwise motion and there is n
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Nofooliam makes a great point in this line from his previous post "So I guess I am doomed to live another 2000+ lifetimes before I am allowed to graduate to wherever it is that Serge is selling tickets to, even though I don't drink, don't smoke, don't gamble, don't do porn, don't do drugs, don't cheat on my partner, don't eat other animals (especially po
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Hi Corby Yes serge has specifically made jewellery which he sells. Again it helps clear energy. Members of UM wear a triangle to represent the hierarchy. And they also wear a piece specifically designed for the individual which helps balance their energy. In the case of my ex - she never took it off. Literally. You have to wonder what the cards are for then if the jewellery is doin
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And it gets better Quotes from a recent article on his retreat. Can be read in full here but be warned the English is terrible and you need patience to read it. If you can't be bothered reading it... Let me summarise for you. It's full of baseless arrogant predictions and we are screwed unless we follow UM. "Dear fellow Students, It gives me great pleasure to finall
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I found this link which touches on his predictions. If anyone can dig up his original website you will see some of his more bold predictions. They have pulled the site down. Scroll down to the section of - onward, in revelation.
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And since UM provides services in The state of NSW you can lodge a complaint with the health ombudsman.
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For those who want to draw attention to the Australian authorities the government has a website you can report scams and products which are misleading. Eg - clearing cards and pillow covers. If enough people complain they WILL investigate. Specifically there is a link on the site regarding medical and health scams.
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I would like to hear from anyone who has had success in convincing a UM follower of its major floors. How did you go about it? Did you get other family and friends involved?
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Thanks for the post concerned partner and sorry to hear about the break up. I think you have provided a very interesting perspective into UM and why people are drawn to it and why it is a challenge to live with someone who is a member. You make a great point in that those participating are awesome people but somehow their need for bigger answers combined with serges charm and gentle nature create
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I would also like to add that I respect people's faith and belief system. I am neither a believer or non believer when it comes to things like reincarnation. While i respect peoples choices i do have the right (out of genuine loving concern) to highlight dangerous teachings. My issue is not with the people directly who follow it or necessarily the lifestyle changes UM advocates. Some of th
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I would like to point out one of the subtle things with UM members that might go unnoticed. All UM students sign off from emails and letters with --- "with love". I don't have an issue with the gesture because it comes with good intentions but I'm pointing it out in case readers of this forum thinks its a little over the top. It's just what they do. Serge says and it gets
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Rod this line just floored me I asked you In another post.... Thanks for the post Rod! My question to you is.... What makes Serge "know it all" What makes him more connected then the other thousand "gurus" out there who claim to know the answer. Your response was..... I can’t answer that question. Surely that is a question you would have to ask Serge. Ro
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Thanks for the patronizing post Rod. You completely missed the point about UM hypocritical teachings. My point is why is drinking wine such bad energy yet serge has no problems in us killing animals. Surely taking the life of a living creature is bad energy? I'm still yet to hear a logical explanation to this. Another example- how is it that all these things posses bad energy yet he has no p
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Thanks for that clarification Macready. I was wondering what the bizzare reason was. UM students are obsessive over this to the point of not only wanting to avoid areas where alcohol is consumed but they physically will not even touch a bottle or product that has it. Perfume falls into this category or any sauces that may contain wine. They claim serge teaches them to "feel" into t
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Publicly on this forum i would like to thank Corby for his contributions. Clearly you are going above and beyond to track down rational and logical information. Thank you
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Thanks for the post Rod! My question to you is.... What makes Serge "know it all" What makes him more connected then the other thousand "gurus" out there who claim to know the answer. Very arrogant to assume UM members live with integrity and the rest of us don't. Lets look at Serge issue with alcohol. Lets take a grape and then we ferment it and then it become
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Thanks MacReady for some of your explanations of their practices. Whilst i have tried to sit through his recorded interviews and read his books i just can't get past the first 5 minutes as it is pain staking and ridiculous. I have relied on my partner for explanations which she struggles with and then usually gets angry because I'm asking. So over 2 years i have managed to gather a b
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Thanks for the questions corby. Happy to answer them as i want people to understand how full on it is. I was lucky in that i chose to never participate in any of the UM courses which was not taken very well by my partner. The house i rented was under my name so basically there was no inconvience or financial strained caused except for being bummed to have broken up with such a lovely girl who
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Hi All Thank you to those who have pointed out the many major flaws in universal medicine. I will keep my story as short as possible but im hoping it may serve someone else well if you ever enter a relationship with someone who is involved with UM. I began dating a girl 2 years ago and was dripped fed bits and pieces along the way. I like to keep open minded and not be judgemental but once
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