Hi Kitty, Are you a paid up customer? I think the only Landmark-for-free session is the introduction, which is an invite-only affair. Did your friend invite you to this? Otherwise, as I stated above, if you don't fill in the forms and pay your money you won't get in the door (which is not a bad thing LOL). If by some miracle (or should that be curse) you do get to attend, just be
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On the surface, a used car salesman will always try and convince you that what he's trying to sell you is a fine piece of machinery. It does not concern him that when you take it home and the engine blows up that he was lying. He has a job to do, a mortage to pay, credit card bills, weekly dates with callgirls, etc. For me, the proof is that when your 'piece of junk' does fail,
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QuoteReality 2 by 4 Don't the people who perpetuate this stuff even care how many lives they might screw up and how many people might be hurt as a result of their marketing ploys disguised as "self-help" advice? The overwhelming statistics would suggest the answer to that is 'NO!' Further evidence would suggest that an awful lot of people attracted to this kind of st
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There may be specific, personal reasons for relationship breakdowns, but in a healthy relationship communication can be restored...unless you're dealing with someone who is intent on their point of view. Yeah, okay, we all have 'strong' points of view, but in a healthy relationship there's are at least degrees of give and take. Compromise and acceptance. Why is it that a LG
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Arrogance of LEC graduates. Isn't that a tautology?
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QuoteseawanI like the movie. ...Wait, I'm not saying that I agree ALL it says. But I do appreciate it. It changed my point of view to life. And I find there are indeed some connections between the Secret and the Ancient religious theory. I'm myself is a Buddhist, and I may say I can find some evidence in the Sutras backing the Secret...But as I say, no one is perfect; I just learn
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QuoteLady GHello I've been reading your forum with much interest. My partner has just completed the Landmark Forum and is now doing the Advanced course as we speak. He was a total Landmark sceptic, his old flatmate was a Landmark addict and he use to rip him to shreds about being associated with such a group. My partner is one of the most intelligent people I know, he would debate ever
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Sadly, he's on a high right now because this new philosophy promises so much. You'll probably find wish-lists on the fridge and a stone in his pocket. Eventually, IMO, there will be a fall. A kind of lull into despair when the promises fail to manifest. Unfortunately, the victims are the compassionate, caring, hardworking folk who have to suffer this madness. Just don't compromi
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I agree that sometimes involvement in a 'love-bombing' cult is a symptom of an unfulfilled relationship, but just as often it's got nothing to do with significant others. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we can feel frustrated with ourselves and the notion that there must be more to our lives than good food, good company and good health. I agree that this is an oppo
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I agree with both of you, Lila and Reality 2 by 4. Or is that a bigotted and dangerous stance to have. Perhaps I should be more careful who I agree with...LOL I suspect Etopia was referring to those 'gratitude rocks', but I also suspect those rocks wouldn't give a darn what my thoughts were. Maybe I'm being pulled up because I never had a pet rock... Very good point Real
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QuoteEtopiaJack Oskar Larm, I think that you are confusing me with someone who cares. Just because everyone here hangs off every word of your bloated opinion doesn't mean that I am one of them. I will most definitely need help after being subjected to your intellectual redundancy. If rocks had ears they would need therapy after listening to you. What’s really sad is that you honestly believe
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QuoteEtopiaQuestion Lady - Of course there ARE liars and manipulators in this world but they don't have to be part of your experience unless you want them to. You can only expose something that is in your reality and so it will come to you to be exposed. The planet is full of hazards and potentially harmful experiences and people. I'm just not going to run out and find them and focus on
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And I reckon he/she will find that Abe-Hicks is just a nervous little bald-headed man... And, I suppose, from his/her point of view we're just a bunch of greedy little winged monkeys! Oh, if only we remembered to laugh a little more. But I suppose Corporate Religion doesn't like that!
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You're always welcome here, Etopia. Just don't expect everyone to agree with your ideas. You obviously have a difficult road ahead. You fell asleep and found yourself on the Yellow Brick road. When you're ready to come back remember all it takes is to click your heels together. And once you've wiped the sleep from your eyes you'll see that the world really isn't spin
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It's not so much about rehearsing together as it is not wanting to stand out (although the Forum is a form of group rehearsal). Maurice is spot on when he suggests that LEC is a kind of play-acting. I know many Landmark folk who can put on a happy face when they're in 'salesperson mode'. The logic is pretty simple (and very sinister) in that to progress within the organisation
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QuoteON2 LFI visited some of the posted sites for myspace, intruded on the active landmarker blogs...so freaky to read the posts of practicing landmarkians...Its like watching a re-run of Star Trek in the episodes where the Starship Enterprise, the good guys, encounter the dreaded Borg in space...The first thing the Borg do is say "put down your shields, we are the BORG, resistance is futile
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How indeed. Enlightened success (puke) seems to be an Australian incarnation of the LGAT phenomena. Yes, the road to Nirvana seems paved in gold - other people's money! The two founders...QuoteMichelle Stanton - Managing Director and Founder Michelle awakened in the Zone in a hospital bed in 1995 and experienced for the first time the power and the magic that is available in this amazing
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I agree with Rob. I have waves of uncertainty in my life, but I also have a 'natural' repulsion to joining groups with a specific 'group mind'. Uncertainty, I feel, is a natural part of human experience...I mean, what's the alternative? Religion? I've always found ways to move forward and not dwell in the apparent darkness of uncertainty. Perhaps we're ju
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Have a look at... The term, The Zone and/or Zone Therapy, is used by a number of organisations. The one I'm concerned about has little to do with Egyptian mysticism and more to do with Capitalist mysticism, such as: QuoteBenefits of being in the Zone When you're in the Zone, you will not experience stress, pressure or insecurity. You will confidently and calmly handle any sit
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Has anyone heard of The Zone or Zone therapy? I have a friend who has become a Zone Coach. Funny thing is he has always 'rejected' Landmark, etc. From the brochure he gave me it seems like another LGAT enterprise - you know, 'Learn to live your dreams!' YAWN. Their motto is: Where Winners become Champions. DOUBLE-YAWN.
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QuoteMadshusThat makes me laugh... taking it too seriously? I still want a believer of the 'secret' to explain why they have to eat to appease their hunger. Like I said, according to them it's not the lack of food that makes them feel hungry, it's the thought that the lack of food makes them hungry. :wink: Madshus, I like your logic. Maybe we could come up with a list of
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I trust the ABC to do a fair job. If it was one of the commercial channels I'd be more skeptical. Perhaps this is what we've all been waiting for. The truth to finally surface. And we know too well how McKay can't help but be his own worst enemy. I mean, the guy is simply stupid. Yeah, I know, he's cunning and quite articulate, but this, I'm sure, is outweighed by his own
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QuotematildaAny reputable journalist interested in speaking to JC critis should be able to post their contact details here. No reputable journalist would ask Dave to supply these and he should not have made that request. You're absolutely right! There is no precedent in objective journalism that uses one side of the argument as a 'casting' mechanism for the other side of the ar
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Very well put, Apostate. I think you've a very keen eye on how things are operating at Camp Dave. I'd love to see it as a comic book in the style of the JCs' comics. And some bright spark could turn it into a round-the-campfire song...
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100% is only the tip of the iceberg for the typical consumer. It's the pattern of wealth-gathering: take, take, take. Coupled with the mindset indicated by DareDreamer's post, I think this manic money grab is a substitute for conscience and understanding. I mean, when is enough enough? I don't want to sound like a bleeding communist. I can accept that we all need a level of financi
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Sorry to be pedantic, but you do mean awareness of abusive and destructive cults...? Welcome, vik!
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I suppose, as humans, we tend to deny difficult feelings. Like so much about us, you have to find strong individuals - those who don't immediately personalise other's experiences. The same thing happens when we watch 'difficult' scenes on TV - we flinch and feel uncomfortable and grab the remote if it gets too painful. The key is finding these strong individuals who have the w
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QuotePrussian BlueBy the way, what is the definition of “Equality?” Sounds like a loaded question, but I'll play along. Equality: the state or quality of being equal. It is related to fairness, sameness, justice, brotherhood, etc. It also has mathematical definitions. What is your definition of race? Before answering, please consider this passage from The American Heritage Dictionar
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Good analogy, Cultmalleus. I also imagine that he's like the cook who thinks his 'creations' are divine. Everyone around the table not knowing what to expect. Some will be gracious and tolerant (and self-sacrificing) and won't complain, while others chew and chew and have difficulty swallowing (perhaps, waiting for an opportunity to spit it into their napkin). And yet other
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exImpact, interesting list. Could you be more specific?
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