QuoteAgurI was pretty fed up with him a couple weeks ago and declared I would not "defend" him but I do tend to get over things somewhat= not to say I would ever trust Dave unless he repented his ways and showed change but I would still defend him against some physical attack or something awful as I don't want anything bad to happen to Dave....I guess what I meant more is that I wo
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WRESTDear Apollo, I still have to question the "disbanding" assertion....that is based only on the contents of an email to Denise isn't it?...I still have suspicions that he has merely taken who he could "underground" for further reprogramming..... but definitely it would appear that a few of the following have gone their own way (thus prompting McK
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I have absolutely no compassion for Dave but i have alot of compassion for the rest of his members and their families who have been torn apart by this cult. There's a long road ahead for these families even if it is true that the JC's have disbanded. It will take a long time to fully heal these relationships after years of interference and manipuation from Dave. Alot of people will have
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Have they pulled a stunt like this before Zeuszor?
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This has been added to the blog.. Here is the Biblical reference given in their plain-spoken farewell note: Now great multitudes approached Him; and He turned and said to them, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters and yes, even his own life, he canot be My disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come
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The JC's forum has been in lockdown for days and now this.. What on earth is going on here????
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Jesus Christians Have Disbanded? We received a notice today and we await confirmation. The notice said: The Jesus Christians have officially disbanded...These are dangerous times, and only those who are ready to "count the cost" and pay the price are going to survive spiritually. Lukewarmness is not enough. If you have a Bible, please read what Jesus said to the multitudes who c
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QuotezeuszorMcKay has admitted publicly that a person he knew to be a pedophile, “Bruce” was allowed to work in India with the cult. There was a good deal of discussion and some disagreement as to which cult members were notified of "Bruce's" pedophilia on this site and the X site. The issue being, whether all members of the cult who had children were notified. It was alleged
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I can't believe McKay has the cheek to refer to Joe's mum as a troll. Who does he think he is? The fact Joe just sits back and allows his mother to be berated from all angles is completely baffling. Sheila really deserves a medal for being able to stay calm throughout this. It would have been so easy to just walk away and i'm sure McKay would have loved that but by keeping her c
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I was reading another forum yesterday and that's something which was mentioned. There was something else i read which really stood out.. Apparently Dave welcomed a convicted paedophile into the Jesus Christians. This in turn put the JC's children at serious risk. The man was eventually sent back to Australia where he was jailed for 10 years. Can anyone verify this?
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Let's put this disagreement behind us and move on Brian. There are far more important matters to deal with. I do have one question for you. Is it true you did a report after Speaking to Dave's mother and if so is it available for public viewing?
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QuotezeuszorQuoteApolloQuotezeuszorJust do not write to me privately anymore, please, especially not asking what the latest rumors about this and that are. Yes i heard you the second and third time Brian. Stop being a drama queen. Well, you should have heard me the first time. Please stay on topic and stop with the name-calling, please. What would you like to know about the JCs? I have no
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QuotezeuszorJust do not write to me privately anymore, please, especially not asking what the latest rumors about this and that are. Yes i heard you the second and third time Brian. Stop being a drama queen.
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QuotezeuszorNothing personal, man. It's only that I really do not want to get to know anybody "new" to the overall situation, anybody that I do not already have an established relationship with, as far as these things go. Please don't write me asking lots of questions. I don't know you, you know? You are stepping into a serious situation and may not fully realize or a
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QuotezeuszorApollo, I have asked you to not write me privately asking for information, and yet you did anyway. Therefore, I have decided to answer you publicly. No, I have no idea why their forum is locked down. I know nothing of it. And for the second time: please do not write me privately anymore. And frankly, I'd butt out if I were you. This has nothing to do with you. Yes Brian y
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QuoteBlackhatWhen Apollo posted his chat with Dave, the Jesus Christian said: Quoteabusive? I beg your pardon? You arrogant little fucking pipsqueak. When Dave posted his chat with Apollo, the Jesus Christian said: Quote abusive? I beg your pardon? You arrogant little pipsqueak. So there is a difference here. There are two possibilities. Either Apollo inserted a word, or Dave removed one.
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Quotebigpigweedstart You slut! I know who you work with! You bogey-man type of bastards are not going to get away with what you are trying to do to me. I have friends with high positions of authority and the love of someone powerful and he cares for me and you are jealous. There is much you do not know so you can tell your cohorts of your Manson-like group that they will not be getting away with
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QuotezeuszorWhat is the obsession with murder? Dave McKay obsesses and Joe obsesses that a "fight" was attempted MURDER. Does that mean any time 2 men get in a fight...that can be labeled attempted murder? We can see that Reinhard did not fight back as the video does show him cowering on the ground. Jeremy does not seem to have done much of anything expect dance around, screaming “FREEZ
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Quotezeuszor Agreed. DM is a crazy man, the JCs are a crazy group, and I'd have nothing more to do with them unless you want (at least temporarily) to be made crazy, too. And I'm not telling you anything that I have not had experience with, either. I used to joust about with DM and his crew on their forum all night long; in the long run it only made me feel suicidal and I w
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I think it's important that as many people as possible highlight their experiences with Dave and his cult. Even if it makes just one potential member look more closely at the group and realise that it's no more than a brainwashing religious cult then it would all be worthwhile. We're talking about whole families being torn apart here. It would be very difficult for anyone to com
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Brian i refuse to be intimidated by Dave and his cult.
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QuotezeuszorApollo, I would very much recommend against trying to engage with DM directly via his pm system over there, and for that matter would recommend against having any private communications with him at all. Any such attempts are bound for frustration. What you just posted is par for the course with him. I'm quickly realising it's almost impossible for Dave to have a civilise
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Here's my latest chat with Dave. I was trying to find out whether i was given a short term ban or a life ban. Here's the full unedited version before Dave posts his own edited version on the JC website. Jesus Christian You can chat with a Jesus Christian personally through this box when they are online! Just enter a nickname for yourself below and start chatting! Bryan hell
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It appears McKay's head spokeswoman is back in town. She's clearly been busy during her time away from the forum as you will see from her latest blog. She has a few new videos where she rants about her usual conspiracies. I won't go into too much detail as it's just the usual inane drivel. She even mentions me at one point. Apparently i masqueraded as a troll in an attempt
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I don't know if anyone's read Joe's latest post in the Johnson thread but it really is a sickening read which has McKay's finger prints all over it. The money they received from the Johnson's clearly wasn't enough. They now want to humiliate them. He now wants his parents to appear in court to speak against Rick Ross. It's hard to see how Joe and his parents can
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QuoteAgurOn the Jesus Christian forum, near her avatar, it reads little rose THIS USER HAS BEEN BANNED. Your term "engagement" between McKay and her did make me laugh as that surely was on devil of a courtship created in the hellholes of a couple like-minds. I wonder how McKay's wife viewed his "engagement" with this woman? His wife seems to be very vague, almost abse
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A couple of things i'd like clarified.. Has Roland decided to leave the Jesus Christians? If ever there was an advertisement for why you should stay away from religious cults then Roland must be the prime example. I've now viewed him on several clips and the man seems unable to show any kind of emotion. His voice seems to permanently stay at the same level. I guess that's wha
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It seems i have offended McKay and his sidekick.. Dave wrote: ''This is slander of the basest sort, and unless Rick Ross takes it down straight away, it will be included in what we send to the solicitor. We have had just about enough of the lies and slander that come from those two hate sites. It is time that people started being accountable for the rubbish they are writing.'&#
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When new members enter the JC forum McKay quickly tries to establish whether or not you’re a potential future JC member. Once he’s established you’re not a potential future JC member you’re now considered an enemy and he attacks you with endless inane rants. The writing is on the wall for McKay and his cult. Numbers are down and one or two members are now publicly showing McKay a total lack o
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I visited the Jesus Christians website and decided to use their chat function on the home page. I spoke to Dave McKay. I asked him various questions about the Jesus Christians. I found it difficult to gain a straight answer. He viewed every question as a personal attack and he eventually cut the chat off. I have never come across a more defensive and paranoid man in my life. I'm not surprise
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