I've just read the old sweetie wife's latest post over on the JCs forum and it appears someone is getting a little above their station. He seems to be 'demanding' answers from people over here as if he has some level of authority over us. Without followers to control and manipulate he's now turning his attention to the 'hate sites'. Well David (former member of
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These people seemed quite willing to humiliate themselves all in the hope of impressing a demanding cult leader, very very sad. Does anyone know if Alf has been able to hold onto his kidney's or is he another victim of McKay's propaganda?
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Well i've seen some cringeworthy music videos in my time but Alf's ''This is Freedom'' has to take the biscuit! LOL
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QuoteStyxxx Now speaking of errors---look who has been the busy little beaver on Wikipedia. (cur | prev) 02:19, 13 November 2010 XLinkBot (talk | contribs) (16,037 bytes) (BOT--Reverting link addition(s) by Denise Matteau to revision 396425593 (http://freedom-is-sacred.blogspot.com/)) (undo) She tried adding her blog link to the Jesus Christians Wikipedia page and look who removed it.
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Ousted from his position in the Quakers.. Ousted from his leadership role in the JCs.. Ousted from his backbencher role in the JCs.. Oh dear, it really hasn't been a good few years for old Davey boy.. hehehehe SMILE DAVE :-)
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QuotezeuszorQuoteApolloDave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') wrote: ''I've been going through some old RR posts, and I have to give Brian his due (and a few others, like Anita) with regard to their correct guesses re Al and Glenn and the antics they have played on both sides over the past couple of years. What intrigues me, however
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QuotezeuszorOne very recent x-member has described to me how DM has these hypnotic eyes, how he has a way of getting you to do what he wants you to do. DM was described to me as very, very physically lazy. DM never wants to go outside much for bin rading or distribution and is always getting others to do things for him, even very mundane things. I was told first-hand of just how cheap DM is.
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Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') wrote: ''I've been going through some old RR posts, and I have to give Brian his due (and a few others, like Anita) with regard to their correct guesses re Al and Glenn and the antics they have played on both sides over the past couple of years. What intrigues me, however, is the loyalty that R
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Dave claims they just cover the cost, what a load of bollocks. LOL The money they received through benefits fraud would have helped also.
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Blackhat do you have any idea roughly how much money they were able to take in on an average day?
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I notice Alex's thread which read ''Are The Jesus Christians Regrouping?'' has suddenly disappeared.. hmmmmmmmmm
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The Gianstefani's leaving was the first sign that all wasn't well in the cult. We're talking about two people who from the outside looked fully commited to the cult. Ultimately the cult had ripped their soul out. As far as i could see they were properties of Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God''). We saw how awful they both came across o
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Hi Mal, I'd say there's a huge possibility Denise played a keyrole in the downfall of the cult. I haven't been here from day one so i don't know the full story with regards to Denise but as far as i'm aware she initially attacked McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') before turning her attention to other targets. Now as we all k
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QuotezeuszorQuoteApolloAlf and one of the twins receive whippings in part 2. We can now add this to the whippings in Florida and Kenya, quite a collection they have now. Um, I think you mean that the whippings were in Kenya and California. And don't forget the recent whipping on behalf of Falun Gong, done in Australia but broadcast in China. And still I have no December newsletter.
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QuoteBlackhatApollo, it is refreshing to see your responses to things you are newly finding out about how DaveJC has manipulated a group of people to do things which shock the moral core of most decent people, and in the name of following Jesus! I will admit that I have become numb to these things over time, repeated confrontation to these acts can have that effect. Ho hum, yes he persuaded th
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Has anyone viewed this ‘Beyond Justice’ trash on Youtube? More Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') propaganda. Alf and one of the twins receive whippings in part 2. We can now add this to the whippings in Florida and Kenya, quite a collection they have now. It seems whipping had become a fetish of Dave and his cult. It must have made Dave fee
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Yesterday i wasted around 45 minutes of my life skimming through some of the older threads on the JCs forum. These threads dated back to 2006. No wonder Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') is desperately trying to 'clean' that place up. The majority of those threads are a complete embarrassment to McKay and his cult. I felt like i was back
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QuoteBlackhat QuoteDearest Malcolm, Dave McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') wrote: ''One report is that the Jesus Christians have "disbanded". Some have chosen to use that term to describe what has happened. They are free to do so. However, I prefer to see it as a kind of "graduation". Cherry and I have been given res
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WRESTPerhaps...I'm simply being alarmist...if the former members have done no more than disassociate themselves from him....and say go off and run a communal "development" project of their own in Kenya...well, all the best to them. They will no doubt be as hostile as ever, for some time to come...however I suspect that without McKay misdirecting them, they would
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Oh dear, so Dave (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') claims Denise is 'mentally ill' and Denise refers to Dave's beloved forum as a 'garbage heap'. These are worrying times for this once blooming relationship. There may be troubllllllllllllllllllllllllle ahead..
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I'd be interested to know as to why Dave (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') seems to be blaming Glenn for so many postings over here.. Wasn't Glenn one of the JCs most passionate apologists? Is Dave now claiming one of his former comrades has turned against him?
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I see Dave has a new friend to talk to ''Alex''. When Dave speaks to someone like Alex all he sees is $$$$$$$$$$$$. He doesn't see a human being with a heart. He doesn't see a human being with a family.. Just someone else to control and sell his books. It's important that we don't take our eye off the ball. We're still in the dark at the moment.
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QuoteBlackhatDave has said: Quote: Yes, i think that Denise went too far on that one. A person does not need to be either an alcoholic or a drug abuser to do and say stupid things, or to use foul language, something I have witnessed you doing on a number of occasions. Unless she has evidence to prove otherwise, I would like to see Denise apologise for calling you an alcoholic and a drug-abuse
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Just a suggestion..
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Perhaps Dave (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') put forward to his followers the idea of ''flirty fishing'' as a way of attracting new members? Let's not forget this was a group who were on their knees, a group whose membership rate had diminished over the last few years. This could have been Dave's one last throw of the dice.
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Unless of course the whole thing is just a big sham. It could be a case of Dave attempting to deceive everyone. They may have gone underground to regroup. At this stage we can't write anything off.
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QuotezeuszorThere's more to this than meets the eye. I say it's some kind of pretext, a diversion or something. Things are never as they seem with him. In my opinion a meltdown like "Heaven's Gate," or some violent implosion of the group, is not likely. But you never know...I hope not. McKay seems too narcissistic for that. In my opinion he loves himself too muc
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QuotezeuszorYou're welcome. David McKay is a liar, a criminal child abuser, a fraudulent con man, a coward, and an all-around evil son of a bitch. David McKay is a vile and sinister agent of evil in the world, and when he dies it will be time to rejoice; his victims will then be assured that he will be unable to continue the crimes and evil activities that he so enjoys perpetrating. How m
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QuoteMalcolm Wesley WRESTWell Blackhat, There are the usual litany of falsehoods and exaggerations, which I think are (relatively) inconsequential, but could be "picked out" if one wished (e.g..Virtually all of the characters involved in this hate campaign against her have been kindly allowed to post on this forum at some time in the past...and were just as "kindly", immed
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QuoteStoic' Al's posts as BigPigWeed, and Glenn's posts as Styxxx, as well as that extremely cruel and hateful post about Denise's daughter, Faith, should make us all want to track down who it is that is playing both sides against the middle.' Davejc must be really scraping the bottom of the barrel. The above, to me, sounds like a plea for a unified front against the
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