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The Hinchcliffe matter has never been made public before now (as far as I know) and the revelations of the other young men that Marsha seduced never have been either. It seems as if the leadership of the Twelve Tribes is quite proficient in the creation of a cover-up; they are very adroit in the areas of damage control and public relations affairs. But Oerlikon has his sources. You may won
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William Hinchcliffe, 56, is a long-standing member of the Twelve Tribes, one of the original members in fact. Last year he was charged with vehicular homicide after killing a woman while driving drunk in a TT-owned vehicle. Hinchcliffe pled guilty and was recently, according to my sources, sentenced to 15 years in jail. He is expected to serve approximately 33 percent of this tim
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The trial against Scientology -- on charges of fraud, of course -- is set tobegin: Whenever the cult runs into a problem, it advertises the fact by flooding press release services -- many of which find their output picked up byGoogle News -- with, well, press releases in which the quacks pat themselves on the back for this, that, or the other thing. It's virtually the only positive pr
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APA Learns to Deal with Scientology Campaign Against Psychiatry "In this exclusive *MedPage Today* video report, APA President NadaStotland, M.D., explains what it's like for a medical society that has, as she put it, its own dedicated hate group -- the impact on practicing psychiatrists, and how the group has responded."
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Helpful links: The Teaching in question (the one speculating that The Race could begin in 2020, and that Yahshua could return in 2070) is called, "What If It Takes A Hundred Years?"
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Having decided in the early '80 to "stop writing the news and start making it", McKay's preoccupations as a writer and his envy of others' success as religious leaders became the motivation in forming his own group. He is an egomaniac who espouses an egomaniacal philosophy, which has at its core the belief that whatever happens to others is their own fault. Whatever hap
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Just when you thought you'd seen it all... Appears to be something about downloading Jesus Christians songs for ringtones, etc.
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If you want to understand Scientology and the man who created it, then I recommend highly that you read A Piece of Blue Sky by Atack. From said book: Certain tenets are essential to Scientology. The first is the assumption that Man is basically good (although this does not extend to critics of Scientology, even those who helped to create and sustain the movement. Those who criticize Sci
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On the matter of Tribe of Benyamin and their Breaking of Bread. Sorry about the factual error that I posted earlier: there are indeed twelve fully established tribes at this point, according to TT doctrine. The 12th tribe (Benyamin) was established in the year 2000 and they have been "breaking bread" since approximately 2005. But this does not mean that "The Race"
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Lester is just...very, very afraid. Afraid to eat, afraid to breathe.
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So my friends and I watched Safe last night. I found it to be stark, understated and subtly disturbing. Very Kubrick-esque. Thanks again, Christa. Safe was a good "cult movie", and I give it a thumbs up. Whatever they really doing there at Wrenwood reminded me a lot of something like Scientology, in the which the goal of their process is to acheive a state of "clear."
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How can Dave or the Jesus Christians ever be challenged from anybody outside of their circle? To question Dave's authority or legitimacy is to reveal that one is not "in the Spirit." Thus, both he and the group is beyond criticism or evaluation. It is analogous to saying, "We are God's group because we have the truth. We have the truth because we are God's group.&
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Aha, Grace is out now, too, but is still friendly with them. Good for her. The Jesus Christians First, I want to say thank you to the whole JC community for the three years I spent learning, traveling and growing with you...I still consider the JCs to be my family, and will always be grateful for the ways they have opened my eyes. I am now what I suppose they would call a "frien
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Here is Grace's blog, in which she writes about the JCs and their travels, as well as Zero Currency Man. This one is for Suelo, aka Zero Currency Man:
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The documentary they made about themselves was on YouTube. It was only there for a few days, and then was removed because of copyright issues. I was fortunate to have seen it. It featured a bunch of interviews with certain JCs parents (Fran's, Grace's, the Kronmiller's) who were gushing about how proud they were of their kids to have gone into the mission field, stuff on Fre
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Hey, I found this new JC video. Check it out, Dave is the one in the middle. So let's celebrate!
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Yoneq of the TT has reportedly released a new Teaching in which he has proclaimed that Yahshua will return, and the world is to end, in the year 2070. That means (according to their Teachings) that The Race will begin in 2020, and they expect to be entering into The Wilderness around 2069 or so. Now Yoneq is talking specifics. However, this proclamation is apparently not yet in writing
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The Stepford Wives, (duh), Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Pod People, what else...?
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Personally, I've never seen Safe. My friend and I were discussing what she remembered as "that allergy cult movie" but she couldn't remember the name of it. Now that we know its name, we ordered from NetFlix right away. Yay! What are some other good "cult movies," that is, movies about mind control, cults, and related topics? There's The Village, The Tr
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Woohoo! That's it; I am so psyched! It's been driving me mad, trying to find this movie. Thanks, Christa!
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Does anyone know the name of the movie that deals with environmental pollutants/environmental allergies, where the woman went for treatment and the guy who ran the place had the people in treatment there, convinced that they had allergies or were affected by environmental/air pollutants? Her husband, I believe got her out, but it was a brain washing/mind control film. It might have been a made
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This IMO is fascinating stuff and I wanted to bring everybody's attention to it. The Jesus Christians have just released this documentary they made about themselves. I have not watched the whole thing yet, only a couple of segments, and will offer my thoughts once I have watched it all and thought it over.
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QuoteeaglecageI haven't yet read the new information you have given me, Oerlikon, nor have I read all of the older information either. But I know enough to know that Scientology is a crock as well as being dangerous. It would not surprise me if they put hits out on people. However, I am not sure what you want me to do, other than read more information. What is it that you think I sho
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You are welcome, but what I have showed you is merely the tip of the iceberg. If Scientology is not a group that is evil in its very essence, then I do not know what is. Read about what they did to Paulette Cooper with Operation Freakout. Read about Operation Snow White. Read about what they did to Lisa McPherson. I encourage you to read all you can abuut th
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No matter, it was meant to be cryptic. I am sure that McKay understood my last post though. BTW: I got the words wrong. The verse is supposed to go, Depends on who's writing the story/Someday the truth will be revealed... Selah
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Rasputin, Rasputin Was he a hero or a heel? Depends on who's telling the story Someday the truth will be revealed...
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See also this posting, which includes a 4-part, 2008 video report from a NewMexico TV station on the cult's underground vault there: Related story, with some interesting links -- such as a Google Maps image ofa design carved into the hills and visible from space... A legacy of Craziness "The sprawling design that marks the ranch is the official symbol of aChurch o
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