Thank you, dabcult for posting on this thread. Your vast experience in the Hare Krishna movement is crucial to helping people break free from cult delusion. There are many naïve people like Aloha girl still impressed with the Krishna lifestyle and ideology who are now parents to small children that shield them from the awesomest time in the history of mankind, denying them in the process of findi
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I must admit I like Siddha’s first album, The Gentle Force. I still hum “Water” and “Simple Country Girl” once in a while. I thought they are catchy. I really don’t know the mystery or the rationale behind banning that album. The instrumentation is world-class. For the theme, I think Siddha’s voice is descent enough, I really thought the album had potentials. I listened to his and Wai Lana’s
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That bowing down thing is way, way over the top for this age and time. We did it during the 60s and the 70s because we didn’t know any better back then. We were so ignorant of so many things. But for today’s brain that is simply unacceptable and ridiculous. It would feel 20 times more demeaning now since our brains have evolved leaps and bounds in accumulated knowledge. Getting rid of that practi
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Haha, Weird Al’s Foil, very appropriate! Yoko Ono sings We are All Water; Look at Me So Arty; I Rule John Lennon Wai Lana sings Namaste; Look at Me So Spiritual; So Give Me All Your Money I wondered what the hell was going on inside the hosts’ minds as they listened to Yoko Ono? I remember finding a CD in the sales bin at Sam’s, ground floor of the North Tower in New York, just befor
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Ian Koviak wrote: And rest assured—these scriptures and so-called scientific texts were revised, added to, adjusted and misinterpreted countless times by countless people—for their agendas and personal convictions. Yes, people. Not gods, not angels, not some mystic saints with elephant gods writing with broken tusks. People. Writers, poets, logicians, artists, scientists and philosophers—over
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Very interesting read, Ian. This is the kind of info needed to be on this board. Not many followers understand just how flawed the foundations of their beliefs are. It is usually the young and the sentimentalists who are simply enamored by exotic belief systems and cultures, but we all grow up and learn from our mistakes. The fact is, foreign religions are no different or even more flawed than ou
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Hamlet: What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Humans are amazing. This is what Jagad Screwball and the Science of Nonsensity is so fuckin
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Wouldn’t it be a dream match if the Rej Ji duels Jagad Screwball? Monokini vs. pinko turtle neck. My money is on the Speedo gay weirdo; He’s ripped, he’ll turn the sickly Guru Screwball into a pretzel. Ding ding ding … a new …
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Haha, that is so sick gay. The Speedo cult just out-weirded Jagad Screwball, made him looking legit and harmless. That may answer Vera's questions why members stay: The Haribols do believe Jagad Screwball is the "good" guy. Some would not even believe they are a cult and for some that do, believe they are the "good" cult. Unfortunately, there's no such thing a
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While Jagad Screwball is busy splitting remaining hairs for damage control, my prayer is for the poor girl, Surabi. I’m sure when this is over, she’ll have a Jesus moment with the Master. I pray she gets to resurrect on the third day just like our Lord, from her matrix world of make-believe to … welcome to reality! I learned the best way to expose cults is to let them speak. That explains why
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We get scared when we don’t have answers; that’s human nature. Jagad Screwball is digging his own grave if he does not go transparent about how he operates his “religion” with the Kailuans. Being tax-exempt, whether he likes it or not he belongs to the community. Just like all Kailua residents, he has certain civic duties and obligations to the constituents’ inquiries if they have reasonable fear
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Back in the early 80’s I used to ask the > devotees why we all didn’t go to > the other Krishna temples in Honolulu and on the > mainland. > They all looked shocked when I suggested this and > told me that “We are not allowed to associate > with ISKCON in any way." That ISKCON wa
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I read Surabi's accounts, and I feel her pain. I do, and that exactly is the problem — truth is independent of sentiment and emotion. Manipulative people know this and use sentiment and emotion to drive people to serve an agenda, time and time again. Gurus are master manipulators. If 99.99999% of gurus are fake, just what are the chances that Jagad Screwball belongs to .1%? Not much. If he c
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Rama Das (slave name) Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hairy Krishna, Hairy Bolls > > Ha ha ha Another difference between ISIL and Haribols is that ISIL has a leader called Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi; the Haribols have … er … Jagad Screwball alias-Big-Behbee.
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Ian Koviak wrote: Years later, on a final emotional phone call to my mother as a married man of 34, I finally spread my wings and flew. It was a tough flight at first but I got over the shock and kept on flying. When I look back on it all now I can only smile and count my self as fortunate. Very inspiring, Ian. I’m sure you, Rama and Lalita are starting a revolution among your peers that it
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Picture perfect? Tulsi: How would you like to go diving with me in Kailua? Bernie: When? After this campaign? Tulsi: No, when you become the president and me the VP. Thick-skinned Tulsi infuriates Democrats in the know: Cynthia Fritts to Bart Dame: I hope Sanders is being warned about her and understands that if he is the nominee who Tulsi really is. I've read many posts
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I was shocked, saddened and relieved. I just hope that’s 100% confirmed. Sometimes this business of anti-cult movement can be very disquieting. Well, that’s what open forum is, everywhere. The good thing is, like gold, a true democracy gets through processes of purification. One day, we’ll get there, like a true community, everyone will get to know and trust one another and truly provide support,
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "You are not your body"? > > Over the years, I have discovered that I do not > just think using my brain. > > In crisis situations, I think using my body. > > Scientists have found that our guts have a network > of neurotransmatter receptors - > a network so dense that it
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Bernie Sanders will be 76, if ever he becomes the President and the Tulsibots were successful lobbying Her Royal Hinduness to be his VP, if something happens to him, Tulsi becomes POTUS. That simple. I hope Bernie does not try diving in Kailua water one summer break. Tulsi’s entire political positioning is to get the Grand Prize. It was made obvious when as a freshly elected congresswoman s
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There was a time when I noticed my kids kept to themselves. I asked why don't they play with their cousins and other kids. My child replied: "they think we are weird". I cried that day. Never again would I subject them to such weirdness, and that probably saved my life too. They should be able to play the same games and toys other children play; they should be able to watch show
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or this ...
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This reminds me of the great dictator. "Emperor of the world!"
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Very classic Haribol funny: For Twizel businessman Rick Ramsay, the deputy mayor of the district, the Ti Leaf crew had been high profile in the town, but generally tried to keep to themselves. Combined with some alternative behaviour by some members, it created an “information vacuum” which was filled by rumours and gossip by a minority. “They weren’t like the other film crews who were down
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It is obvious that Tulsi’s modus operandi is to get attention. Controversial moves guarantee that and no doubt is the best way to get attention. She must have taken the cue from the Kardashians – good or bad, press releases add points to her celebrity profile and sellability. “Low-information” voters will always outnumber the informed ones; plus, mainstream media love controversial people; add th
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Vera wrote: Your forum has been the single most important factor in the healing of many people who have escaped the cult of Butler. I have been on this forum for around 8 years and was able to forward many articles and resources to friends still suffering from their time in the cult. It has been of inestimable value in the recovery of one individual in particular, who was in an apologist daze fo
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Rama wrote: Flash is the single greatest researcher I have ever known, and their prowess has impressed me to no end ever since I got re-involved almost a year ago. Yes, Flash's invaluable work is essential to this forum. His site is always up there on Google search. I too have great respect for Flash and grateful for his tireless effort. I remember before stumbling upon this site, I f
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I have no problem with: "We are part and parcel of God and everyone else is too". In fact, that's pretty universal. The indoctrination comes in when in order to get in touch with God, you have to submit to a misogynist asshole guru and subject yourself to eating toenail clippings and drinking foot-wash water. That is clearly criminal and inhuman. That is pushing the envelope too fa
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Overheard: “Absolutely ,” Gabbard said. “When you look at the national issues that our country is facing, people are not qualified or disqualified because of their spiritual practice. People are looking for someone they can trust.” "Trust?" Good luck with that. Three words: "Justice For Sri!" “Hinduism is largely misunderstood today in part because of how it’s been
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I’m hoping you two could mend things up. You’re both doing great. I’d rather, our poster boy, Rama stays the way he is – raw, furious, clever and witty. No holds barred. In fairness to Flash, he has done some heavy liftings with his research and journalistic writing. You’re a lethal combination – the cult’s nightmare. We’ve gone through this. It is sad if this goes down to that same dark mome
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CarlFig Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dharmabum - > > Did you see my Washington Post comment posted > 3/1/2016 2:40 PM EST ? > > Please advise. Yes. You nailed it. I also loved the professor from Hawaii, who said while she insists on identifying jihadists as Islamic extremists (cuckoo!), the same standard should apply to her belie
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