DM "I'm just shifting this over to the Quaker section of the forum, now that it is opened, because it seems more appropriate for it to be there" Hahaha! Funny, that was the first thing I thought when I read the posting yesterday. Who knows? Who cares? ......................................................................................................................
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Kirstie, I can tell you now: You will be loved like you never have been before. That is a force so hard to resist, it's like a drug. So powerful. Especially if love like this has been hard to come by in your life up until now. You will be encouraged to keep away from anyone who challenges what you now believe to be God's purpose for you. They are detractors in Satan's power
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Also, if I had custodial arrangements regarding my children, or I was under any Government notice regarding their care, I would need to seriously consider if this might impact my custody/access.......
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If I were to be considering bringing my own children to live with the Jesus Christians right now, there are some things I would wish someone would point out to me: 1. Apostate has posted several times here about the summary violent discipline meted out to his own child at David's command while he was in the Jesus Christians. 2. Three out of four of David's children have shunned hi
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Quoteapostate It is interesting that the JC's are pushing the freegan thing with her. Dumpster diving is the new "sign" from God. With some religions it is talking in tongues. Joanne and Kirstie might be interested in hooking up with other freegan dumpster diving groups who can give them what they want, fregans with like-minds and love, without the agenda of taking all they ha
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Kirstie, I can tell you now: You will be loved like you never have been before. That is a force so hard to resist, it's like a drug. So powerful. Especially if love like this has been hard to come by in your life up until now. You will be encouraged to keep away from anyone who challenges what you now believe to be God's purpose for you. They are detractors in Satan's power.
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Quoteapostate If you have met Ross, you will know that he is basically a fairly gentle person so it goes quite against his grain to have to present in such a manner as he is recently on their forum. I get the idea that Ross is a good and gentle person who is actually in so deep he couldn't get out if he tried. He has invested too much for too long now to recant, even if he wanted to. I thi
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Apostate, Thanks for the tip on the Zimbardo experiment. I've just had a look at the slideshow presentation: (in Windows environment, use F11 to maximise the screen) This particular episode regarding Prisoner #819 was very relevant: "While talking to us, he broke down and began to cry hysterically....... I took the chain off his foot, the cap off his head, and told him
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Reading more, I guess she made a mistake in giving a confidence to Brian. Error of judgment on her part. When you walk with lions, hyenas are all around........
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www.theneighborsson.com This is quite a substantial testimony. I am in awe of her courage and hard work. I can't imagine why David would so vehemently disparage her. This is all quite interesting, given my recent reference to the Nazis. The evidence shows that she has much higher credentials than a guy who failed as a newsreporter and left an infamous cult to create another one based
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Just on a totally different topic, here's the latest viral video of Tom Cruise speaking about Scientology. It's banned mostly, so see it while you can!
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"In fact sometimes the greatest evil happens when we project the evil we cannot accept in ourselves onto another in a belief of righteousness. Their evil is not the same as our own, so our ego makes us feel justified in attacking it." - Blackhat. I want to go back to what I said about fighting evil when we see it. It can take two forms. One is that it is a moral obligation based on a
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From a Quaker viewpoint, I think it will be interesting how David handles this...is he for real in embracing Quaker principles, or now that the power-base seems to have collapsed, does the faith collapse also?
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"You won't get off that easily, Brian. I don't think the courts call it "impetuosity". They call it slander, pure and simple. Even Grandma Lowe knows that. " Grandma Lowe is not a barracker in a footy match. Grandma Lowe is very aware that righteousness is not solely owned by one person or viewpoint, even as evil exists among all of us. In fact sometimes th
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I believe the correct term is libel, but it all comes under defamation in the US courts.
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Yep, that took about two seconds, and it looks like you're going to be in court. David is actually right in this instance.
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When you do something like that, Zeuszor, it blows all of our hard work out of the water. Now David will have a field-day with your comments, and all our hard work will be lost in the smokescreen. And only yesterday I posted about treating people with mental health issues with respect. Such a shame. I don't want to see accusations against other posters emerging here, any more than I liked
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QuoteapostateZeus, let me play the "devils advocate" here. This matter was discussed in some length on the JC forum. It was CASEY that owned up to the action in the campervan described in your earlier post. I suggest that you retract your above comments about Reinhardt as it is slanderous as it is written. Apostate is right, Zeuszor, it looks like slander to me. If you didn'
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And if David ferrets about to find an instance on this forum where someone was rude to Brian as a refute, it would only serve to permanently record him as a Keyboard Masturbator. We're talking about the general mood here!
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Quoteprivate eyes One of the things I have found interesting in looking at the Jesus Christians is how Dave manages to describe Brian as mentally unstable in an attempt to dismiss him as a critic. Yet what would have happened if he had gone through the trial week? If he had joined, are we to assume his OCD wouldn't have been an issue? I just raise the subject, because when you go through the
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This is on the Dysfunctional Families thread: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Dave & Cherry to their kids And in nearly six months, there has been not one reply. Says it all, really. To quote Meatloaf, "two out of three ain't bad." But one out of four? That's gotta say something. If three out of four of my own children were shunning me, I woul
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The Jesus Christians is founded on two factors which came together when David McKay was failing as a news reporter. 1. He had a past with the Children of God, got away from them on a pretext of promoting them in an outpost, and had all of David Berg's teachings at his disposal. 2. He decided it would be more advantageous to "make the news" instead of writing it. He combin
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QuoteyasminHi : Sorry to have delayed replying to this, but have just realized that on the Jesus Christian's website, I was supposed to either be Sheila, or have been contacted by Sheila.Just wanted to set the record straight: No to both. I read Dogsmothers post, was worried and went to the Jesus Christian website where Dave had already posted an email describing the danger Joe was i
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So Malcolm, You are saying that when Private Eyes posts hateful stuff, it is because he is quoting David? I like that! PE, you had better get that disclaimer together for your next posting....hehehe.
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DISMEMBERED What an ironic term, given the nature of the "Kidney Cult" - Soon to be Ex-Quakers... So the most tolerant of all religious groups has decided that they don't want this association any more. Of course, they are only rejecting Jesus! That is always the defence David throws up. Not so! They don't want David McKay dominating their forum with his incessant
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DM has posted what he purports to be an email to Sheila from a company in Kenya, back in May '07. Assuming it is genuine, could it be that one of her own family unwittingly fed information to Joe/David, perhaps on some kind of promise to have contact with Joe? Who else would have access to her emails? What mother wouldn't try to find her son? It's gut-wrenching to see the te
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Retirement speech folks! (No, we won't go after any followers when you retire, because they will do as you command and re-write the teachings of the Jesus Christians in line with what Jesus taught, not what David Cult of Apocalyptic Personality COG McKay taught. There are many good hardworking talented people with a vision for a better world in this cult.) David, thanks for this Retire
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Zeuszor, Congratulations on making the apology, rather than saying you were only bluffing or joking. Your explaination did not diminish the sincerity and honesty of your apology. You are a better man for it.
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I was only bluffing I was only joking How often do we use these words to try to minimise or dismiss the wrong and hurtful things we say, but only when they are pointed out to us? We secretly hope we get away with it! And if it had worked out, we would have congratulated ourself for being so clever! I have heard it said that in every joke, there is two-thirds truth intended (or words to t
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QuoteJack Oskar Larm Blackhat, call me naive, but legals? What's the legal problem? And what's a silk? And, I like your catchy title! If someone thinks you have defamed them, you'll need a QC (Silk).
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