"The Dur-Con hoax lay at the heart of Hansard's deception, there was no oral tradition, just a cynical and self-driven mind, that exploited those willing to believe the myth. If on the other hand you have objective and convincing information that proves Hansard was indeed following a genuine and ancient tradition please do provide details." That's your story and I see you a
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In reality, when deciding whether or not they got any value from Mr. Hansard, most people probably put low on their list of criteria: did Amchuk of Amdo really exist? Most people are interested in the question: what can you do for me? Then, as mature people, they decide for themselves whether they got what they want or need. Thus, to suggest that supporters or attendees of readers were conned bec
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It appears that the aforementioned individuals do not believe the DurCon proposition. And I would remind readers that beyond revealing the facts of dodgy marketing and numerous examples of misrepresentation, DurCon itself is only a proposition. Those individuals based on their own experience, have concluded that Mr. Hansard brought something of genuine value to them. Do they and their opinions
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Yes I agree with the thrust of this post and I understand the signoff too.
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"your question of complicity of the women involved walks a fine line. You are clearly a man. Is date rape then ok... is the woman complicit in that? They may have been enchanted, fascinated, enamoured by him but he was a physician, a teacher... he was in a position of power, he had a responsiblity to not take advantage of that and the woman patient or student was in a vulnerable position. He
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So far the only lawsuit I have been able to find is against a journalist who also interviewed Ole. Some people in Germany and elsewhere are upset because of his outspokenness in respect to Islam and Christianity (he is critical) but as far as I can gather that is about it. He is a freewheeling guy in respect to sexuality but nobody seems to have accused him of crossing the line.
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The idea that Hansard learned to believe in his own mythology is very interesting. It is now common practice in many intelligence organisations to teach their operatives how to create the correct "submodalities" so that that a lie detector or normal interrogation techniques will not break the truth. Over the long term operatives can become quite unstable because they literally have diff
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Moderator, I have one other question. In your experience, how do members of cults, regardless of the type of cult - spiritual, therapy - whatever, how do they recover from the rage and contempt that they might feel inside which is actually not theirs, but is the cult leaders, and is there because they were identifying with the cult leader in some way. Are you familiar with this phenomen
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Moderator could you answer following questions: 1. How come these cult leaders never seem to be able to keep their peckers in their pants? 2. How come the women in the cult, who may be sexual partners, or who may be sexually fascinated by the leader, often fail to see their own complicity, and may continue to lie about what really happened.
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"kurukulla, I'm amazed about the Tibetan Bon connection with soul retrieval in light of Chris's reaction to my mentioning the concept, his scathing reaction felt to me more that he thought it was a new age hippy dippy time waster but also suggests he knew nothing about it as a Tibetan soul medecine technique ." Very revealing, that.
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I have been reviewing many of the teachings and talking to people who have practiced them for a few years now. Two things stand out. Many of the teachings are legit practices. But I have become convinced that CH will not let go of them - he attaches himself to them. I think that this is one of the reasons for his downfall. He has to let go of that. Once he read my pulse. For a week after I was
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Yes, I'm sure the roots of his being nuts goes way back. In some respects I think that he is an incarnation of some old Tibetan shaman-magician of the type that practiced psychic warfare during that part of Tibetan history and now he's publicly going through the karma associated with that. Some people believe that people who are mentally unstable and disassociated will sometimes rem
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That's probably a lock then. His reaction kind of reminds me of what you see in movies when the exorcist says to the possessed, "I'm going to expel you demon" and the possessed individual goes into a rage. Although the vast majority of cases are now considered psychiatric in nature, there is stall a small number that are "unexplained" and are indeed illnesses of the
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Kurukulla, Very interesting post. CH declined rapidly after the event at Terry Willard's farm, which was about five years ago now. He started showing clear indications of demon possession, psychopathic personality disorder, bi-polar disorder and disassociative disorder. Previous to that he used to talk about an improperly trained Laiku that went insane. I now think he was talking about hi
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"Lama Ole Nydahl - who is another associate of both men, has a lawsuit pending against him" Do you know something further about this? I know quite a bit about Lama Ole and I'm curious.
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I guess a close examination of the work of professor Norbu will reveal most of the truth. Note the word below that features strongly in Mr. Hansards universe: "Originally, in ancient Tibetan history, in the Bonpo tradition, they say that everything originates from the egg of existence. Then from this egg comes ‘lha’, ‘lu’, ‘nyen’. That means ‘dewa’, ‘naga’ and ‘nyen’ beings of the ‘masan
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At Eden the following spiritual disciplines were taught, is this true? Kum nye, the exercise system. 12 ways recitation: where did CH get the other three ways? Meditation on the heart beat. Pewa. What is that? Were all these things facilitated by Ms. Wright, or did CH actually involve himself in instruction?
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"Perhaps you’d like to let us know what they considered to be acceptable sexual piccadellos" I don't know if they found them acceptable. If I said they did, or suggested that, I stand corrected. He was know as a notorious "womanizer," that he cheated on his wife and on his girlfriend, all at the same time. He had a highly sexualised sense of humour. I think pe
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Puff and pant? You see this is where you are wrong. These stories frame the abuse and show that the individuals making claims against Hansard are legitimate victims, not just people who took a strong dislike to him or are offended by what he appears to have gotten away with. If this distinction at all gets muddied it increases the liklihood that authorities will dismiss claims against him.
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Nicely put Cirrus. Mr. Nelson, Ms. Pulver, Ms Hare, Mr. Lawson, Mr. Willard, and Ms. Wright are all individuals who had close working relationships with Christopher of some kind, and were indeed responding to the universal themes present in what he was presenting. Though many of them expressed to me at some time an awareness of Mr. Hansards sexual piccadellos, I honestly don't think anyon
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I noticed that link might not work. But if you go here you should beable to find the pdf: rightsofwomen.org.uk
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I believe this should tell you most of what you need to know: sho
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To All Members of the Group, I'm signing off now. I'll check my e-mail if anyone wants to talk or needs some assistance in respect to actions being taken in response to the abuses perpetrated by Mr. Hansard. However, I refuse to participate in persecution, especially of those who themselves have been victimized. Good luck to you all. I wish we could have all become friends under b
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Good-bye Jeff. It's not been nice to know you.
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"Gondolf, your adamantine reluctance, to simply state you support legal action against Christopher Hansard, is very interesting." I'm glad you find me interesting. I find it equally interesting that you will not answer a single one of my inquiries about your intentions. I might add that in mentioning Lawson, Hare and Nelson, who had no involvement in Eden, as complicit, is su
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I am saying what I said I'm saying. Put your ducks in a row and see what you've got. Then what has to happen will happen.
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Yes I have, unlike yourself, who refuses to. Are you willing to supply the funds, the solicitor, the private investigator required to launch a lawsuit? Or do you just like to stir the pot based on what is legally, at this point, only hearsay. Produce the evidence Jeff. Create an affadavit, a list of names and events, anything, and I will support whatever action appears appropriate. Th
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You see this is the problem with you Jeff. You are not listening. I clearly stated that if people feel he has committed a crime they should report it. But neither you or I have evidence of a crime being committed. And I don't know about where you live, but I can not report a crime when I don't have evidence it has been committed. Maybe you don't understand the word, "heresay.&
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My position is clear. I don't like witch-hunts. I don't like religious orthodoxy as a cover for persecution. Hansard has abused people emotionally and psychically. He has lied and misrepresented himself. He is mentally unstable, possibly with psychopathic tendencies but, based on my experience, NO desire to harm others. Has he committed a crime? I can not say and neith
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"Mariah, It appears you are indulging in the age-old game of selecting extracts, out of context, in order to suit a predisposition to misrepresent." So Mariah is a liar? Who is selecting extracts in order to suit a particular position if it is not you? "If you wish to enage in a proper discussion about the points I raised with Kurukulla I will be more than happy to oblige,
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