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17 years ago
gondolf
I had never heard of this Avatar course and group so I googled it and sure enough it's everywhere. It is truely sad the the real benifits of positive psychology and various kinds of emotional healing get warped by these groups for their own profit. Like we really need more egotistical people in the world trying to gain more power and wealth purely for their own self aggrandizement. :evil:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
Hi Lilly, Great post. It pretty much encapsulates the whole problem with Mr. Hansard. What you have described is generally true in most authoritarian cult environments. Secrecy, an environment where simple questioning is not allowed, no accountability for incongruent behaviour portrayed by the leader. That is typical. So to is the group being headed by an individual who is powerful, charismati
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17 years ago
gondolf
Hello Lorenzetti, and welcome to the forum. Could you say a little more about what you know of Mr. Hansard's background? Also, do you have any thoughts in respect to what might have caused him to create the particular myth about himself that he did?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
"His Tibetan chanting is not in the current Tibetan language, I know that much. I went with a Tibetan woman to a course and she recognized only names of gods in the chants. Don't have any idea what he was saying and that's eerie because chants can have power. His knowledge of Buddhism is very wrong also as her husband was a scholar of 13th C Buddhism who was having a fit at what CH
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17 years ago
gondolf
Hello HDM, Was there something specific that finally led to this conclusion, and put it together for you?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
This is true: "It is not uncommon for people to get to a point where they are confronted with an aspect of themselves that they find difficult to take, and at this point they can then choose to blame their teacher or healer, rather than confront their own issues. This is one of the factors of being a teacher or healer – receiving aggression and blame from those you are seeking to help.&qu
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17 years ago
gondolf
Vaidya, I see that you know something of his Alberta activities. I understand he has worked in a clinic at Calgary. Do you know anything of how he was received there, and what his relationship to the owner of that clinic is. Are they friends or business partners or anything like that? I can't imagine the alcohol incident which you described went over well there.
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17 years ago
gondolf
Amethyst, No one is trying to slander anyone. No one is trying to intrude upon his privacy. I apologize if I have given that impression. We are interested in a reference - some reference, any reference - that gives credence to his claim of where he got his training. In a world filled with charlatans, crooks, con men, thieves and false teachers, is that really too much to ask. In that
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17 years ago
gondolf
Zig, I am glad you and your family were helped. I never said he didn't have talent in this way. What happened to me is a private story. And for that reason it is very important for me to know this: Is he what he says he is? Or is he a self-made man? Or is he a psychopathic fraud? I have the right to flush out the truth about that.
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17 years ago
gondolf
Vaidya, I would not say that Hansard is psychotic. I would say, and I am speaking professionally, that he shows clear signs of being psychopathic, and has also shown clear signs of being manic-depressive. His lieing with easy, manipulative relationships with others, and unwillingness to be accountable or the even the least bit embarrassed for outrageous and hurtful behaviour is typical of t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
" i have also contacted the Bonpos who do not recognise him, have never heard of his teacher, and advised to me to seek a legitamite teacher." Yes, if his teacher really existed somebody would have heard of a man as accomplished as Hansard claims he was. Also, has anyone anywhere heard of the language Kapi, or the so-called Masang? In the real world or in science fiction?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
Hello Cranial, How long have you practiced kum nye for? After having such bad experiences with Hansard I am almost afraid to do anything remotely associated with him. Also, please keep your ear to the ground as he will undoubtedly try to show up somewhere else. I too have seen him practice drunk.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
"He did do some treatment on me though and I just hope that what he done did not do any harm to me." This is a good question. Is he actually causing harm with his treatments? There is no doubt whatsoever that he causes harm with his mind. The chiropractor at Eden is his primary apprentice and has been with him from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if she "snapped&
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
"Any good psychiatrist knows the signs of the psychotic - in their company you begin to doubt yourself and everything you know." Very good point. In the case of psychopaths they are generally lacking a conscience, so the tell (behavioural markers that indicate they are lying or cheating) is rarely discernible even under conditions of extreme lying. The reason I asked for some date
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17 years ago
gondolf
Hi Dorje, So he worked in PR for Phillips. Can you recall approximately when he started there and when he finished? Was it a family connection that got him the job, do you know? The scary thing about his "system" is that when you practice it you begin to feel like him - cold, dark, and uncaring inside.
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17 years ago
gondolf
Hi Cranial, I'm glad you didn't go back and ended up getting the help you needed. I'm really getting pissed off about this guy. My association with him may have soiled my reputation. I think I will be seeking legal counsel.
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17 years ago
gondolf
Hi Cranial, It is not unusual for accupuncture clinics owned by someone with advanced training to have students and apprentices and lesser trained individuals and so forth to do treatments under supervision. However, your other concerns are important. Do you remember why he yelled at you? Sometimes people need to be yelled at (though rarely). Sometimes it is just hurtful, or arrogant as in,
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17 years ago
gondolf
Could you please explain this remark: " i know first hand that he has at least a few "siddhis" (spiritual powers). " And has he used these so called spiritual powers inappropriately, in your opinion?
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17 years ago
gondolf
I see by this link that there is some information about the northern treasure school - skimpy as it is. I think the point this researcher was making was that there is no researchable evidence. As for the Dalai Lama the reference was also on one of Hansard's numerous web-sites. And by the way, allowing others to use deception to promote you does not forgive you.
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17 years ago
gondolf
"If it really works, the casino will need to pass a law to ban anyone using the law of attraction." "To do the test properly, you need to keep an open mind or it is not a valid test. Good Luck." In the original "Secret" two things are made clear. One is there is a difference between your will and the will of the universe (or whatever). When using the law of at
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17 years ago
gondolf
Can I ask you some questions about dzogchen?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
Also, Hansard claims that the Dalai Lama recommends him as one of the top ten Tibetan Medicine practitioners in the world so you might want to make some inquiries in that direction and see if there is anything to that.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
I think it was here: So you are a practitioner of dzogchen then? If New Zealand is a dead-end then the question remains where did he learn the stuff that he practices and what is the point of creating this "thunder-being" mythos? Do you know he once played a bit part in a movie, and also wrote soap operas? Maybe this is his idea of a good soap opera, LOL.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
I don't actually recall the name of the individual. I was doing some research and came across a discussion group run by a researcher in zhang zhung and it was there that I discussed his findings. It was a few years ago. It is important to make a distinction between Bonpos and Hansards claimed lineage. Bonpo is the new Bon, whereas Hansard claims an association with the old Bon Ngagpas who
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17 years ago
gondolf
What a sad story. Spiritual teacher types always seem to have a very big shadow (even when they are dead) and more than plenty of people willing to embody it. The scary thing about this story is that it is very "Chinese secret service" in style and it may in fact be bigger than you think. I know this from personal experience having been very close to a couple of Chinese "masters&qu
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17 years ago
gondolf
I know a reporter who tried to check out Hansards New Zealand story but couldn't find anyone to verify it. I also know a researcher into Bon that could also find no evidence of the Northern Treasure School. That said, everywhere in the world shaman types are very secretive. The aboriginal groups which he also has some association with are equally secretive in respect to their forms of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
gondolf
Sarah, without giving anything away that might identify you, could you say if your concern with Hansard is professional, or in respect to the way he treats people. Some people really think he walks a thin line between the light and the dark, if you now what I mean.
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17 years ago
gondolf
If there is serious doubts about his qualification in medicine I would certainly like to hear about that, for reasons I can discuss privately when the time comes.
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17 years ago
gondolf
In the original work of Charles Haanel, who first penned the Secret, he makes it clear that service is the key to success with his system, not selfishness and greed. In the work of Napoleon Hill there is also a strong ethical base - a whole philosophy of life and living that underpins it.
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17 years ago
gondolf
"A friend has massive problems with Abraham-Hicks. Any similar experiences?" I would say this. Anyone who's primary motive seems to be making money, is suspect in my books. That said, some of the books have interesting content. North America seems awash in people telling other people how to make money and the only people making it are those that already are. If these people were
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