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4 months ago
Valma
zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for sharing that review, Earthquake. People > like me who owe their vedanta knowledge (in part) > to reading JS's books need breakdowns like this > one to help weed out JS's distortions. Last year I > threw away all my JS books. I didn't sell them or > give them away because I did
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5 months ago
Valma
The teacher wrote ... " I'm also delighted with the US presidential election results. It restores my sense of hope for the future." What?? A dharmic president with high suspicion of election fraud? In which world is this teacher living? Ah yes, in the world of James & Sundari Swartz. That shows how much he is influenced by the "opinions" of James on that parti
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7 months ago
Valma
Earthquake's comment: "The other thing, is the Gurus do not provide enlightenment. It is the student and effort, among other things. You are both so far away from actual Vedanta, I could write a book about your inaccurate teachings. Only someone egotistical would try to claim ownership over another's freedom! It is typical cult behaviour." As per words from Ms Swartz: “ …y
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7 months ago
Valma
Now, after we have heard/read/acknowledged/overcome the shocking chilling revelation/testimonial of what X experienced with Mr & Ms Swartz (who have now thanks to X a beautiful home in Spain), let us read what Ms Swartz herself had to say about it to their online audience: Quote taken from “Sundari” message: “After five years of searching, I found the perfect place near Malaga, Andalucía,
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8 months ago
Valma
Good questions above, Earthquake. This article may be useful for our understanding: 6 Things the Most Dangerous Predators Already Know About You Basic principles of social influence can be twisted for malignant purpose. Source: Charlotte Purdy/Shutterstock Social psychologist Robert Cialdini has examined hundreds of research studies about compliance and conformity to identify key it
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8 months ago
Valma
After reading testimonial via EQ about the being called "X", can anyone still doubt what Heather warned us about via her "story" and posts on this forum? I would say this makes her story even more credible; you can detect similar patterns and parallels in both cases. What is being reported in this latest testimonial did not happen decades ago like in the case of Heather whe
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8 months ago
Valma
Reflecting on the last posts: There are people who are very smart but that is not at all a sure sign of wisdom and compassion, usually the contrary...I would say beware of smart people. Some of the smartest people have led the world into the current chaos through long-planned hidden strategy that is slowly being revealed. If i had to choose to have dinner between Trump and James, without he
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9 months ago
Valma
Hello Stan, welcome and thank you for sharing openly your testimonal and experience as a now ex-shiningworld endorsed teacher. I see they have added more "endorsed teachers" on their list of teachers on their website. I wonder: why do not more of those "endorsed" teachers come forward like you do or do they look the other side when they hear the way seekers/ex-students o
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9 months ago
Valma
Dis-illusioned Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see that reply is better than just posting. I > posted above, but you may not see it as your post > is so long. > > I’ve only just seen that you’ve had a tragedy in > your family. Sorry to hear that. Wise not to be > putting energy into this pointless debate here. Indeed, and let us
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10 months ago
Valma
For all i know about Tony Parsons it is that he DOES attract spiritual seekers. I had a spiritually-oriented friend of mine who was a fan of him for awhile, she even went to the UK for a seminar of his. His main mantra is : "you are not a person", "you don't exist" and this friend repeated me that so often, like that is the door to enlightenment or at least should solve a
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11 months ago
Valma
When you know that someone has proven to be a liar in several occasions, will you trust any of his further words or denial of this or that?
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1 year ago
Valma
Thank you everyone for your contributions to this conversation to which i would like to add my 2 cents! As spiritual seeker seeking Truth and knowing nothing about Vedanta, you may find Shiningworld site, which sounds shiningly attractive with lots of knowledge available. You may have no clear idea about the role of ethics in spiritual life (as explained in the interview shared by zizl with Ri
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1 year ago
Valma
For the record the "denial newsletter" mentioned in this earlier post IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE on their website. You wonder why eh?? Dis-illusioned Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > zizlz Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Whoa, good find, Sahara! > > > > Sahara71 Wrote: > > >
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1 year ago
Valma
Dis-illusioned Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Could you add the link to the book you’re > referring to please Valma? Here you go. Thank you for sharing your unfortunate experience with J. Swartz, Dis-illusioned. You are not the first one to report what you describe in your other post. I would have thought that he had at least realized that hi
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1 year ago
Valma
Hello Sevenhorses, Thank you for your fresh testimonial and sharing your experiences with the Shining World group. I appreciate your enquiring spirit that inevitably leads to the truth of things. Yes it can be confusing when we are around people who are themselves still confused/unclear/unfinished even though they deliver interesting spiritual information and think that because of that they ha
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1 year ago
Valma
Anyone who had been following Mooji for a while remembers we were told "ego-self" is the enemy no 1 to spiritual life, that we should get rid of this ego and become "nobody"... Here below another perspective to ponder over: "Why seek to deny or annihilate “self” (which is ultimately an individuation of a level of Divine Intelligence)? How are such teachings about
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1 year ago
Valma
Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi too many suicides, > > That's quite interesting... I took a look at > Micheal Soham on social media - I've noticed he is > friends with Shree's ex-husband and also with > Khrishnabai, but other than that, he doesn't seem > to have a lot of obvious cult members as contacts
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1 year ago
Valma
Heythere1010101 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > wow, I just read Abdias824 posts, those are > hilarious, similar to what I am trying to convey, > and had experienced there, > and probably a bit more insightful about the > sexual exploits than I. Laughing out loud to > these posts Thanks Heythere1010101, indeed it is worth reading Abdia
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1 year ago
Valma
Welcome Leavingmooji, thank you for sharing the place where you are right now. Indeed you are not alone in what you go through. Many of us here have been in a similar difficult place before we made it out of this cult and also found great relief that we were not alone in our observations. I can assure you it is worth the current discomfort and struggle you are going through. It will take its o
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1 year ago
Valma
Thanks for the update, Traveller 99 But honestly, if anyone needs urgently donations it is those people who are doctors and nurses who are in dire situation at the moment and lack tools, masks, beds, etc. it is hospitals and all doctors who do not follow the official rigid line and are banned or threatened for helping their fellow beings. Those need help and support before anyone else in these
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1 year ago
Valma
The other day i landed on the site of Shiningworld and read with fresh eyes an “e-satsang” by J Swartz. What I found in this text was a mixture of correct statements with untruths as well as red flag statements that should alert anyone. I am sure there are plenty examples of this in his “satsangs” and I won’t mention this particular text as I want to focus on the mechanism at play. This is ver
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1 year ago
Valma
Birds of a feather flock together Amma & Co - Human Worshipping Organization Unlimited
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1 year ago
Valma
Horowitz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mooji has arranged five satsangs in Tiruvannamalai > to attract the attention of Ramanashram visitors, > tourists, and some communities that temporarily > live there, in spite of the fact that Mooji was > banned from Tiruvannamalai 8 years ago, after > Hindu marriage with Radha there and wild partie
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1 year ago
Valma
> > Eventually, a middle-aged woman takes the > microphone and shuts Moo up, because he's making > himself look rather guilty. The middle-aged woman is one of his long-term devotees: She stops the discussion before it gets to any satisfactory resolution. Moo could have invited the man to see him later to talk about this troubled girl. But he didn't, he angrily s
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1 year ago
Valma
Thank you so much clearvision, that is a long but worthwile read! I can't resist quoting some of it further: "A student of Mooji’s expressed shock when he discovered Mooji was having sex with very young female students at Monte Sahaja ashram as well as during retreats in India. In response to this concern, Mooji whispered, "Hush, this is fine, this is fine, guru may share lov
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1 year ago
Valma
Pema Chodron, a Buddhist nun resigning from her Buddhist organization: "In a letter released yesterday, she states that she was ”disheartened” by news that Shambhala leader Sakyong Mipham may resume teaching this year with the approval of the organization’s board. Sakyong Mipham has currently “stepped back” from his roles in the community after allegations against him of sexual assault an
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1 year ago
Valma
Indeed Horowitz, probably 95% of us here belonged to this "vulnerable demography" which drew us into guruland whether it be Mooji, Bentinho or another. Myself was introduced/pressed to listen to Mr Moo's videos by a friend of mine who had many issues in life. She found him great for a while, but having found neither a lasting solution to her psychological issues nor the spiritua
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1 year ago
Valma
I think this interview mentioned by Horowitz and Sahara71 is in Romanian language. I recall there were quite a few Moo's devotees in Romania, so maybe someone from Romania may come along and translate a few more passages..
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1 year ago
Valma
To come back to an issue raised by Sahara71; the problem is that very few people go looking for a lot of information about a group when they first become interested in it. This is what happened to me. I briefly became involved with a guru and his followers and it all looked very innocent from the outside. I didn't have any prior experience with cults, wasn't aware of cult dynamics
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1 year ago
Valma
The mistreatment of Heather by James is one terrible aspect of this case. You could say, that happened in the past, the man has changed, apologized, recognized the harm he did. But no, the second aspect is: to this day he denies any of it! And third but not least, this is someone who is still functioning as a spiritual teacher who keeps on publishing an abundance of e-satsangs as if to cove
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